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    <p>That's not happening.  The Metaswitch employees I know that are
      left are happy taking marching orders from M$.</p>
    <p>The problem the softswitch industry had was that the pie was
      stable. It wasn't growing, so you weren't selling new logos. You
      were just supporting customers - and that isn't a growth business
      nor is it a profitable business. <br>
    </p>
    <p>The problem is that of the 900 operators using Metaswitch in the
      US, most are mom and pop and rural. That doesn't convert to "Going
      Azure."</p>
    <p>These mom-and-pop's will have to make due with what they have for
      the next 5 years - and use that 5 years as a runway for an exit
      strategy.<br>
    </p>
    <p>The largest Metaswitch white-label provider just went to CXDO, so
      the writing on the wall that I have been seeing for 2 years,
      others are now seeing.</p>
    <p>Regards,</p>
    <p>Peter @ RAD-INFO<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/13/2024 3:54 PM, Jeff Brower via
      VoiceOps wrote:<br>
    </div>
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cite="mid:20240813195412.Horde.s3z17piAbruUFIMR0tNQtJD@webmail.signalogic.com">
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      <p>Not sure about Affirmed, but I know some of the original
        MetaSwitch guys, and a few still at Microsoft. They were, and I
        suspect still are, extremely dedicated and capable. My guess is
        they will find a way to spin out /  buy out MetaSwitch in some
        form it will continue.<br>
        <br>
        -Jeff<br>
        <br>
        Quoting Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps <<a
          href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" moz-do-not-send="true"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>>:</p>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div dir="ltr">
          <div>I have a use case. The use case is, be in a position to
            take customers tomorrow on a 5/9's platform.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>One alternative is Ribbon: that solution is out of my
            price range, and, likely out of price range of every rural
            ILEC I know.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>A second is Squire, but, I'm not willing to risk it w/o
            getting my hands on a long-term trial which was requested
            but not offered.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>The final alternative is to throw into developing one,
            likely in two phases. The orchestration and front end of the
            Elephant Talk project is complete, now just need to settle
            on a production backend.</div>
          <div> </div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at
            3:33 PM Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <<a
              href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>>
            wrote:</div>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote">
            <p>I suppose this all raises the question of why on earth
              you'd want to acquire a Metaswitch, but you've clearly got
              an angle.<br>
              <br>
              -- Alex<br>
              <br>
              > On Aug 13, 2024, at 3:20 PM, Jawaid Bazyar via
              VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>>
              wrote:<br>
              ><br>
              > "Microsoft's end game is for every operator to have a
              big pipe to Azure to access Metaswitch, vSBC, Teams and
              other components."<br>
              ><br>
              > My question is, can you actually run a MetaSwitch CFS
              in Azure? Because to my knowledge, you cannot.<br>
              ><br>
              > I would be very interested if I was wrong about this.<br>
              ><br>
              > Jawaid<br>
              ><br>
              ><br>
              > On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 12:56 PM Peter Rad via
              VoiceOps <<a href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>>
              wrote:<br>
              > Besides getting rid of their Max UC softphone (to
              make MS Teams THEE softphone), they did EOL a lot of the
              Meta product.<br>
              ><br>
              > We - RAD-INFO, ECG and Andrew Ward - did a webinar
              about it in May. You can watch the recording here:  <a
href="https://info.ecg.co/webinar-recording-broadworks-metaswitch-netsapiens-ribbon"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://info.ecg.co/webinar-recording-broadworks-metaswitch-netsapiens-ribbon</a><br>
              ><br>
              > Microsoft's end game is for every operator to have a
              big pipe to Azure to access Metaswitch, vSBC, Teams and
              other components.<br>
              ><br>
              ><br>
              > Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. 
              Thank you.<br>
              > <br>
              > Regards,<br>
              > <br>
              > Peter Radizeski<br>
              > RAD-INFO INC<br>
              > Telecom Consultant<br>
              > Bandwidth * Voice * Cloud * Data Center * Internet *
              CyberSecurity<br>
              > (813) 963-5884<br>
              > <br>
              > <br>
              ><br>
              > On 8/13/2024 8:41 AM, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps
              wrote:<br>
              >> "Given the MetaSwitch products are no longer
              sold, and Microsoft is EOLing them, and not taking new
              support contracts..."<br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >> That's news to me.<br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >> -----<br>
              >> Mike Hammett<br>
              >> Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
              >> <a href="http://www.ics-il.com" rel="noreferrer"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.ics-il.com</a><br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >> Midwest Internet Exchange<br>
              >> <a href="http://www.midwest-ix.com"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.midwest-ix.com</a><br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >> From: "Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps" <<a
                href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>><br>
              >> To: "voiceops" <<a
                href="mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">voiceops@voiceops.org</a>><br>
              >> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:23:05 AM<br>
              >> Subject: [VoiceOps] Acquire MetaSwitch<br>
              >><br>
              >> Hello,<br>
              >><br>
              >> We are in the market to acquire / take over a
              MetaSwitch CFS. In particular, we're looking for the
              virtual edition that runs purely in VMWare.<br>
              >><br>
              >> The components we'd need are:<br>
              >>     CFS<br>
              >>     MRS (Media Resource Server)<br>
              >>     Perimeta<br>
              >>     SAS (Service Assurance Server)<br>
              >>     MetaView Server<br>
              >><br>
              >> These are fairly common components.<br>
              >><br>
              >> Given the MetaSwitch products are no longer sold,
              and Microsoft is EOLing them, and not taking new support
              contracts, we're not talking about a big cash up front
              kind of deal, but, instead a revenue share kind of
              arrangement.<br>
              >><br>
              >> Anyone that has one and is interested, contact me
              directly off-list.<br>
              >><br>
              >> Cheers,<br>
              >><br>
              >> Jawaid<br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >> _______________________________________________<br>
              >> VoiceOps mailing list<br>
              >> <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br>
              >> <a
                href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br>
              >> <br>
              ><br>
              > <a href="http://Virus-free.www.avast.com"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Virus-free.www.avast.com</a>
              _______________________________________________<br>
              > VoiceOps mailing list<br>
              > <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br>
              > <a
                href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br>
              > _______________________________________________<br>
              > VoiceOps mailing list<br>
              > <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br>
              > <a
                href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a><br>
              <br>
              --<br>
              Alex Balashov<br>
              Principal Consultant<br>
              Evariste Systems LLC<br>
              Web: <a href="https://evaristesys.com" rel="noreferrer"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://evaristesys.com</a><br>
              Tel: +1-706-510-6800<br>
              <br>
              _______________________________________________<br>
              VoiceOps mailing list<br>
              <a href="mailto:VoiceOps@voiceops.org" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">VoiceOps@voiceops.org</a><br>
              <a
                href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops</a></p>
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