Re: [nsp] Requesting comments on 7401 pricing

From: George Robbins (grr@shandakor.tharsis.com)
Date: Sun Jul 08 2001 - 18:46:13 EDT


Hmmm... NSE-1 and 2 Gig-E ports.

The bottom line is that Cisco is extremely careful about announcing
anything that undercuts 7200 pricing/volume. This is reflected in
what cards are available for the 3600 series, and the specializing
and pricing for the 7100 and 7401 routers, the idea being to sell
Cisco into niches where they wouldn't have gone before, but no to
signficantly be sold "in place of" higher end products.

Since this clearly has a lot of ISP potential, plus high-end enterprise -

t3 customer termination router
t3 or oc-3 pop router
2-ct3 of ds0/ds1 circuit aggregation
t3 or oc-3 dsl termination
100m/frac-gig-e router-based firewall/loadsharing/hsrp

Currently the 7204VXR is in the same price in Fast-E only format,
$5K more for 1xGig-E, $10K more for 2x Gig-E.

So, if Gig-E is interesting, it's a win, depending on where the
percentage of a wire-speed Gig-E or Gig-E -> Gig-E lies.

For something interesting if less powerful, look at the 7204 w/WAN PA
bundle for $15k, and reflect on those being $10k list wan cards, giving
you the router for $5K vs $20K. 8-)

    http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/7200/prodlit/1354_pp.htm

Really amusing is that this EOS's the 7206VXR/NSE-1 as a bundle, and
and mentions another bulleting the EOS's all? the 7100 special price
bundles.

    http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/7100/prodlit/1372_pp.htm

                                                George

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> Hello All:
>
> I was wondering if anyone has looked at the new 7401 and, if so, how do they
> feel about the price in relation to power? The list on this thing is
> $19,000 which seems high to me for a NPE 350, 128M ram, 2 100Mbit ports and
> an empty PA slot.
>
> Thoughts? Comments?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
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