[c-nsp] Leaked Video or Not (Linux and Cisco for internal Sales folks)

James Bensley jwbensley at gmail.com
Fri Jun 22 10:12:26 EDT 2018


On 22 June 2018 at 15:00, Tails Pipes <tailsnpipes at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mojatau, Big switch, cumulus, arista and even juniper are trying to move
> networking to a better place, but not cisco. they do contribute to it,
> there is xdp, ebpf, quagga, vrfs in linux...etc < do you want to deny those
> ? just because you have a ccie and you are comfortable being a cisco
> network guy, well you dont live alone in the world, others also need to be
> able to run networks without having to work on it for 10 years.
>
> What do you mean that no one is pushing packets in linux ? Isnt that the
> point of all the linux networking ? are you saying that the vendors
> mentioned are closing their work ? can you give an educated opinion who
> exactly is not allowing packets to be pushed in linux ? is it Linus
> trovalds and the NetDev folks or is it the community of people like you
> that are so comfortable in their own skin that they dont allow innovation
> to take course.
>
> Linux and BSD are both operating systems that are well documented and many
> people can understand and work with but if you are so comfortable with IOS
> variants, that doesnt mean that every one is....can i operate networks
> without having years of experience and implicitly forced support by cisco,
> I am sick of having to learn all the cisco specific terms to all sorts of
> different boxes and technologies, all their tools and super expensive AS
> engagements, but thats not what this post is about. its about how a company
> is making use of free software and refusing to allow it to flourish, the
> microsoft of networking is cisco.
>
> https://blogs.cisco.com/news/myth-busting-white-box-switches-are-no-bargain
>
> This is about a company that smiles in my face, telling me that Linux is
> bad for me and they are using it in all their products, in that video, the
> speaker says we can leverage all the linux work for free.
>
> Is Cisco working on XDP ? https://netdevconf.org/0x12/schedule.html I dont
> see Cisco's name here but others are.
>
> can you easily answer this question ? why packets are not pushed in linux ?
> is it because of big switch, cumulus, pica8 ?
>
> can you push packets in linux without writing code to do that ? who is
> writing that code ?
>
> this is supposedly a community effort, something that older generations
> dont understand.

What did you have for breakfast, troll meat?

James.


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