[cisco-voip] Certification and exams..

[Tim Reimers]

yeah, I realised that.

In terms of someone claiming a certification by name, when they'd only
done some of the requirements, yes
that would certainly be unethical, if not grounds for non-hiring or
termination.

I don't think that was what Michael was asking though -- I believe he
was asking just about "taking credit for passed exams" on a resume.

I did something similar on my last resume -- basically put on there that
I had _previously_ held Cisco IP certifications, but that none were
current.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Slaga (US) [mailto:Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:31 PM
To: Tim Reimers; Paul; mschierding at morsco.com;
cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Certification and exams..

I was referring to misleading achievement.  There is no problem listing
individual exams.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Reimers [mailto:treimers at ashevillenc.gov]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:29 PM
To: Paul; Matt Slaga (US); mschierding at morsco.com;
cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Certification and exams..

But isn't the question mentioning the name of the exam, NOT the name of
the cert?

That does kinda go towards the "CCIE written" folks..

And I don't know that it implies any desire to mislead or misinform,
such that you shouldn't hire someone based on that.

Misinforming or misleading is telling someone WRONG information --- like
putting the name of the certification before passing ALL exams.


Putting the name of the EXAM is not the same as putting the name of the
cert, nor should anyone fail to realise the difference.
 
while I wouldn't put that on a business card or _probably_ not a resume,
I would have NO PROBLEM telling an interviewer that I'd passed this and
that exam and was "on my way"

That's called "being proactive about your career" if you're an optimist
and perhaps "misrepresentation" only if you're a pessimist.




-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:20 PM
To: Matt Slaga (US); mschierding at morsco.com; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] (no subject)

Ohhhhh...I misunderstood the question. If you put CCVP next to your name
by only passing the CVOICE, you're a cretin.

Paul

----- Original Message ----
From: Matt Slaga (US) <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com>
To: mschierding at morsco.com; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] (no subject)

Honestly, I think this really goes into ethics.  Realistically, you
should not put any certification designation until you have fully
achieved that certification.  If someone listed a half-done
certification on their resume as if they had achieved it, I sure as heck
wouldn't hire them.  If they will list that, what else can you believe
on their resume?



-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Michael N
Schierding
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:01 PM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] (no subject)


Is it considered acceptable when you pass one of the CCVP exams, (ie..
CVOICE), that you could put that designation by your name?

Mike Schierding
IT Operations
Morrison Supply Company
311 East Vickery
Fort Worth, TX  76104
(817)259-0958
mschierding at morsco.com
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