[cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?
Wes Sisk
wsisk at cisco.com
Wed Sep 2 10:51:45 EDT 2009
prime example of "nope" in my book. if you're upgrading in this
scenario you are looking for features and fixes. if you go to 6.1.3 and
encounter an issue you will have to upgrade to 6.1.4 to get a fix. if
you go to 6.1.4 and encounter an issue then you will receive an 6.1.4 ES
which is a "minimal set change" which introduces the fewest changes. It
is the most likely scenario to resolve your issue without introducing
new issues.
/wes
On Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:38:39 AM , Leetun, Rob
<rleetun at bouldercounty.org> wrote:
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> Would you guys upgrade from 6.1.2 to 6.1.3?
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> Cheers
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> Rob
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> Robert Leetun
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> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Ed Leatherman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 02, 2009 6:36 AM
> *To:* Wes Sisk
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?
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> If I were specifically going for a particular fix and nothing else, i
> would prefer the "minimal set" to try and minimize the risk of
> introducing a new bug or problem. That said, if I had a problem and
> TAC told me I had to upgrade to 6.1.4, I wouldn't be upset about it..
> just wouldn't be my preference. I would grouse about it later if I ran
> into a new bug ;)
>
> As far as the original post, if it's a new install/upgrade from 4 or
> 5, I would probably load 6.1.4. That said, we're on 6.1.3 right now
> and don't plan on upgrading any further in that 6.x train, next
> upgrade will be 7.x most likely for a time of day routing with unified
> mobility.
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> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Wes Sisk <wsisk at cisco.com
> <mailto:wsisk at cisco.com>> wrote:
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> IMHO this is very critical. If you come to me for support I cannot
> give you a "minimal set" change between where you are and where the
> fix is available. You are going to get all of the changes from 6.1.3
> to 6.1.4 in addition to any new fix that is tailored to your
> environment. I may be a bit biased as my business leads me to expect
> things to be broken. To that end it appears prudent to get as close
> as possible to any patches that may be necessary.
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> I would very much like to hear the positions of others.
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> /Wes
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> On Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:25:24 AM , Lelio Fulgenzi
> <lelio at uoguelph.ca> <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> Ah, yes, that's another way to look at it. As each dot.dot release is
> released, the previous likely gets shelved for development.
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> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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> "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com> <mailto:wsisk at cisco.com>
> To: "STEVEN CASPER" <SCASPER at mtb.com> <mailto:SCASPER at mtb.com>
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>,
> lelio at uoguelph.ca <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 9:04:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?
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> 6.1(3) is "done" meaning no more ES will be built for it. If you
> upgrade to 6.1.3 and encounter a serious issue Cisco will require you
> to upgrade to 6.1.4 or an engineering special of 6.1.4 to get a fix.
>
> net: 6.1(4) is the "best" place to be currently.
>
> /Wes
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> On Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:18:50 AM , STEVEN CASPER
> <SCASPER at mtb.com> <mailto:SCASPER at mtb.com> wrote:
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> I believe 6.1.4 fixes the Denial of Service vulnerabilities recently reported.
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> Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca> 08/31/09 11:25 PM >>>
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> Not easy, but necessary. Even taking a look at SEV 1/2 bugs should be enough. Also, my understanding is that ES's are no longer what ES's were in the days of 3.x and 4.x (possibly 5.x). They're not built for individual customers like they used to be, but essentially, they are what service packs used to be. Granted they're not published for some reason.
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> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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> "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brandon Phelps" <btphelps at atomicnets.com> <mailto:btphelps at atomicnets.com>
> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:00:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?
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> meh, thats easy to do. Looking more for opinions and anecdotes.
>
> Would most people install an ES without having a specific reason for
> doing so?
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> B
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> Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
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> I think you'll hear from Cisco TAC over and over, always use the latest
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> version and the latest ES. Nowadays, especially from x.x.3 to x.x.4 it's
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> not feature enhancements but bug fixes mostly. Or so we're told. Take a
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> look at the bug list, see if there are any that stand out and not work
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> for you.
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> ---
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> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
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> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
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> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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> "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Brandon Phelps" <btphelps at atomicnets.com> <mailto:btphelps at atomicnets.com>
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> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
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> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:35:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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> Subject: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?
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> Which one is more stable?
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> CUCM 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?
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