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Absolutely. With the new Flex-WAN mods and ATM OC-12c capabilities, coupled
with ;MS
protocols, low-speed synchronous interfaces, etc. In the core, it;gr
alThough I would use a GSR for an Intrenet backbone router before a 6509.
As a matter of fact, I wouldn't use a 6509 ;ll
in a datacenter or server farm and feed a GSR with it, though.

-/chris

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> Anyone tried using the cat 6000 line for routing
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The CT3 allows you to bert test indivi; t

1. Config the interface:

conf t
int sX/0/0:16

2. Loop the telco's smartjack

Or Loop the CSU

LOOPBACK REMOTE LINE FDL ANSI

3. Config the T-3

5. Start a;T

T1 27 BERT PATTERN 2^23 INTERVAL 60
(This sends quasi random data)

6. Exit config mode

7. Vi

Telcordia / Bellcore has some excellent T1 / DS3 test
I understand, these ;be
telco side of things...

hiller

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> On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 01:46:30PM -0500, Tatsuya Kawasaki wrote:
> > T3 4/0/0;up
> > CT3 H/W Version : 5.0.1, CT3 ROM Version: 1.2, CT3 F/W Version: 2.8.0
> > Mx H/W version: 3, #;co
>
> > I am bit confused on cisco web site.
> > Here is what I wan; d
> > I need to test a channl on this DS3. ie 4/0/0:16.
> > I want to use external CSU and test the circuit.
> >
> > coul;yo
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> You need to have the T3 split into T1's, so unless the telco
> does that for you, or you have equip; t
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If your aggregate port rate exceeds 100 Mbps and you ned to do dCAR or dWRED;dT

-/chris

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On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:02:42 +0100
 Michael Beckmann <petzi@apfel.de> wrote:

Every condition :-)

> Under whi;on
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[From an earlier message to this list]

> IOS 12.0(7)T (for 72xx) most certainly does > i> WCCPv2 is> > 12.0T since 12;)T> 12.0 mainline only has (and will only ever have) WCCPv1. > 12.0S currently only has WCCPv1. WCCPv2 ima;fo> EFT (along with some other neat WCCP enhancements).

Anybody know when 12.0S will get WCCPv2? ;(9have it.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no

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The first 3 t1's can be brought out on the first 3 external connectors, one additional t1 can be selected;co

controller t1 3/1/0 t1 test n linecode x lenth y

for internal testing and pattern ge;tifor the internal "bert" port, which some of the other replies talk about.

http://www.cisc;m/

George

> From cisco-nsp-request@puck.nether.net Thu Ma; 1> Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:03:10 -0500 > Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:51:22 -0500 > Date: Thu, ;ar> From: Tatsuya Kawasaki <tatsuya@kivex.com> > X-Sender: tatsuya@kds1 > To: cisco-nsp@iagnet.ne;MI> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Subject: [nsp] question DS 3 card. > Resent-From: cisco-nsp;k.> X-Mailing-List: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> archive/latest/2442 > X-Loop: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Precede; l> REsent-Sender: cisco-nsp-request@puck.nether.net > > T3 4/0/0 is up. Hardware is CT3IP > CT3 H/W Version : 5.0.1#;3 > Applique type is Channelized T3 > ; I> Here is what I want to do. > I need to test a channl on this DS3. ie 4/0/0:16. > I w;to> > could anyone tell me how to? > > > Tatsuya > > > /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_;/_> Tatsuya Kawasaki > Allegiance Telecom > Unlock the Power of the Internet > http://www.kivex.com;ho> Affiliation given for identification not representation > /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_;/_> >

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From petzi@mail.apfe; Received: from someone claiming to be mail.apfel.de (mail.apfel.de [212.122.128.72]) by puck.n;r. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:15:06 -0500 (envelope-from;ziReceived-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:15:06 -0500 Received: (from petzi@localhost) by mail.apfel.de (8.9.3/8;) Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:15:03 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:15:03 +0100 From: Michael Beckmann <petzi@ap;deCc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: SRAM on VIP2-50 Message-ID: <200003241015;15References: <20000323210242.B13309@apfel.de> <200003232104.VAA15106@NetBSD.noc.COLT.NET> Mime-Version: 1.0 C#;nt

So you have upgraded each of your VIP2-50 ? :-)

On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 a;:0> On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:02:42 +0100 > Michael Beckmann <petzi@apfel.de> wrote: > > ;y > > > Under which conditions does it make sense to upgrade the > > 4 MB SRAM on a VIP2-50 to 8 MB ? > > > ;an> >> > Michael

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On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:15:03 +0100 Michael Beckmann <petzi@apfel.de> wrote:

> So you have upgraded each of y;VI

Yes. We saw random nevada errors on even quiet ports and ports with only one PA around the 40M mark. We hav;cimore is much more.

Neil. -- Neil J. McRae C O L T I N T E R N E T neil@COLT#;

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sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > > Anybody know when 12.0S will get WCCPv2? 12.0(9)S doesn;pp have it.

While we're talking about WCCPv2... I'm asking to the kind cisco people on the list, are there any plan; mmore 'Open' ? I'd like to continue to use Squid but:

http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/FAQ/;17

> CISCO's Web Cache Coordination Protocol V1.0 is supported in squid 2.3 and > later. Due to licencing req;me> If CISCO chooses to open WCCP V2 and relax the licensing terms, Squid may >;ab

Thanks.

-- Daniele

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At 18:14 23/03/00, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: >[From an earlier message to this l; >> > it also has WCCPv1 (which is explicitly enabled via "ip ; v> > WCCPv2 is the default otherwise). > > > > 12.0T since 12.0(5)T has had WCCPv2. > > 12.0 mainline only has (;wi> > 12.0S currently only has WCCPv1. WCCPv2 images for 12.0S are currently in > > EFT (along w;so> >Anybody know when 12.0S will get WCCPv2? 12.0(9)S doesn't appear to >have it.

the WC; E

cheers,

lincoln.

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Does anyone know which MIB variable could give me information about E1 controllers call-stats? I mean, i would;e the command #show controllers E1 call-stats. Actually, I=B4m looking f; sCisco MIB, so any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks, --

Rodrigo Loureiro

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Thanks all for the suggestions given about BGP. I realized that a 3640 with a 64 MB (upgra;e hardware to start running BGP-4, considering a good performance and a small budget.

Thanks all;in

ROdrigo Loureiro

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Michael Beckmann wrote: > > Under which conditions does;ma> 4 MB SRAM on a VIP2-50 to 8 MB ?

A related question, is there third party suppliers of compatib;RA

Due to what appears to be a typo in the Cisco pricelist, the Australian prices are a; o

Ta, Glen

-- Glen Turner Network Engineer (08) 8303 3936 Australian Ac;ic glen.turner@aarnet.edu.au http://www.aarnet.edu.au/ -- Earth is a single point of failure#From grr@shandakor.t;isReceived: from someone claiming to be shandakor.tharsis.com (IDENT:root@shandakor.tharsis; [ by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05399 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 24 Mar 2000;49 (envelope-from grr@shandakor.tharsis.com) Received-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:49:28 -0500 Received: (from grr@lo;osDate: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:49:;05From: George Robbins <grr@shandakor.tharsis.com> Message-Id: <200003250249.VAA12218@shandakor.tharsis.com> To: ci;nsSubject: Re: SRAM on VIP2-50

The VIP2/40 style is just a SIMM. They are ava;lereasonable cost. Probably could have been sourced commerically at one time, but the day when PC's used SR;IMlast for too long.

On the other hand, the SRAM in the VIP2/50 is a cisco-manufactured board a;rior avilability of used modules...

George

> From: Glen Turne;le> Organization: Australian Academic and Research Network > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject;: > > Michael Beckmann wrote: > > > > Under which conditions does it make sense to upgrade the > > 4 MB SR;n > > A related question, is there third party suppliers of > compatible SRAM for the V>  Due to what appears to be a typo in the Cisco pricelist, > the Austra> > Ta, >;n > --> Glen Turner Network Engineer > (08) 8303 3936 Australian Academic and Re;ch> glen.turner@aarnet.edu.au http://www.aarnet.edu.au/ > -- > Earth is a single point of failure > > #From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01551 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200003252027.PAA01551@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22648; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:33:29 -0500 (envelope-fr;isDate: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:33:29 -0500 X-From_: owner-cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Fri Mar 24;33Received: from someone claiming to be hq.oh.verio.net (hq.oh.verio.net [209.57.200.33]) by puck.nether.net (8.;8. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:33:28 -0500 (envelope-from owner-cisco-;puReceived-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:33:28 -0500 Received: from exchange.nst ([204.116.23.150]) by hq.oh.ver;et for <cisco-nsp@iagnet.net>; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by EXCH; w id <HPCXB43J>; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:33:21 -0500 Message-ID: <71CC63E46CCED211A6580#;F6To: cisco-nsp@iagnet.net Old-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:33:2;50X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Diagno;: X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored X-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@puck.n;r.ResEnt-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:27:35 -0500 Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [nsp] [nsp] ATM Ignored pac;

on my PA-A1-OC3MM. They don't seem to affect ;fian annoyance. Here are the interface stats:

Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang;er Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/;8 5 minute output rate 1946000 bits/sec, 1077 packets/sec ;47 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 inpu;ro 446463737 packets output, 1413247936 bytes, 0 underruns 0;pu 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

Sometimes I will ; dreceive 15 or so per second. Any info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Dav;urNorTh State Telephone Company dcurran(at)northstate(dot)net

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On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 08:33:29AM -0500, David Curran wro;> > on my PA-A1-OC3MM. They don't seem to affec;af> an annoyance. Here are the interface stats: > > > > Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00,;pu> Last clearing of "show interface" counters 3d23h > Queueing strategy: fifo > Output queue 0/40, 0 dro;in> 5 minute input rate 5263000 bits/sec, 1171 packets/sec > 5 minute output rate 1946000 bits/s;10> 471460789 packets input, 603722526 bytes, 0 no buffer > Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giant; t> 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 720969 ignored, 0 abort > 446463737 packets output, 141324; b> 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets > 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffe;wa> > > Sometimes I will go a day without a single error and then all of a sudden > receive 15 or so per second. ; i

Do you by any chance have any low speed output if's on the same router experiencing congestion at the;e

We have seen something similar on ATM-E3 (CSCdp96197).

> David Curran

/Niels Chr.

-- Niels Christi;an Network Manager, Tele Danmark NET, IP-section.

"Hey, are any of you guys out there actually *usi;RF

From owner-cisco-nsp;k.Received: from someone claiming to be hq.oh.verio.net (hq.oh.verio.net [209.57.200.; for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:18:51 -0500 ;veReceived-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:18:51 -0500 Received: from mw3.texas.net (mw;xa by hq.oh.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14125 for <cisco-nsp@iagnet.net>; Sat, 25 Mar 2;16Received: from staff2.texas.net (staff2.texas.net [207.207.0.39]) by mw3.texas.net (2.4/2.4) ; E Received: (from ed@localhost) by staff2.texas.net (8.8.5/8.7.5);PADate: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:18:49 -0600 From: Edward Henigin <ed@staff.texas.n;ToCc: cisco-nsp@iagnet.net Subject: Re: [nsp] [nsp] ATM Ignored packets Message-ID: <20;25References: <71CC63E46CCED211A65800805F66558B4A9F39@EXCHANGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type:;t/X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <71CC63E46CCED211A65800805F66558B4A9F39@EXCHANGE>; from dcurran@n$;codropped packets: 1) ; o

I haven't found specific documentation from Cisco as to what causes a packet to b;gnI've been able to correlate on my own. I'd be happy to see official docs on what causes ;gn

Ed

-- On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 08:33:29AM -0500, David Curran said: > Since we installed it, I ; b> on my PA-A1-OC3MM. They don't seem to affect traffic but it is some what o;an

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From owner-cisco-nsp;k.Received: from someone claiming to be hq.oh.verio.net (hq.oh.verio.net [209.57.200.; for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:12:15 -0500 ;veReceived-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:12:15 -0500 Received: from tcb.net (tcb.net ;.1 by hq.oh.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14516 for <cisco-nsp@iagnet.net>; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:12:07;00Received: from sofos.tcb.net (sofos.tcb.net [127.0.0.1]) by tcb.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA31051 for <cis;spMessage-Id: <200003252211.PAA31051@tcb.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 To:;coFrom: Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> Reply-To: danny@tcb.net Subject: Re: [nsp] [nsp] ATM Ignored packets$;meSender: danny@sofos.tcb.net; > dropped packets: 1) lack of cpu on the VIP, 2) drops due to CAR. >; I> what causes a packet to be 'ignored'. The above 2 are the ones >;e > docs on what causes an ignore if anyone has any :)

On a;0

Essentially, it means that the pack;rr

o starved VIP/RSP CPU cycles o starved VIP/RSP (DRAM) MEMD buffers o starved VIP; (

As Niels suggested, if you've got a low-speed egress interface and bursty traffic ingress to ;)I

If you're already doing this then "show vip;um

Another thing you could look at with VIPs is ";nt

Also, some port adpaters actually report pack;os

Of course, in my experience with the;0,

Hope this helps!

-danny

From owner-cisco-nsp;k.Received: from someone claiming to be hq.oh.verio.net (hq.oh.verio.net [209.57.200.; for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:08:15 -0500 ;veReceived-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:08:15 -0500 Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk;ee by hq.oh.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21463 for <cisco-nsp@iagnet.net>; Sun,;MaReceived: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9F1083E42; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:;7 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:08:07 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver <jesper@skriver.dk> To: "Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen"$;bpMessage-ID: <20000326180807.F31657@skri;dkMime-Version: 1.0;teX-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000325214156.E28013@bank-pedersen.dk>; from nc;an

On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 03:42:07PM -0500, Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen;te> > Since we installed it, I have been getting a fair am; o> > on my PA-A1-OC3MM. They don't seem to affect traffic but it is some what of > > an annoyance. Here; t> > > > > > > > Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never > > Last clearing of "sho;te> > Queueing strategy: fifo > > Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 8 drops > > 5 mi; i> > 5 minute output rate 1946000 bits/sec, 1077 packets/sec > > 471460;pa> > Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles > > 0 input ;rs> > 446463737 packets output, 1413247936 bytes, 0 underruns > > ; 0> > 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out > > > > ; S> > receive 15 or so per second. >  Do you by any chance have any low speed output if's on the same route > We have seen something similar on ATM-E3 (CSCdp96197).

Important not sure if the same buffer allocation is used on PA-A1 and PA-A3.

But the problem on PA-A3 is basicly the foll;g the same applies to VIP's)

The PA-A3 gets assigned a static amount of SRAM (1200 particles(*) on NPE20;nnnot sure when it was introduced in the 12.x brances, and 400 o;E1anD NPE200 before the above release), and each vc is assigned a static part of these depending on PCR (max. 400 on NP; wmax 200 on NPE150, and NPE200 before the above release).

When a packet is recieved on a vc, it gets wr;n (rx_ring), and a pointer is handled by the routing process, and moved to a ouput queue of the egress ;rfthe packet will remain in the input vc's rx_ring until it's transmitted or dr;d egress interfaces, quite a few packets can be "stuck" on ;inrx_ring (which is of static size), and if that rx_ring fill's up, input packet's will be blindly dropped, and thi;unimportant to note, this is a totally blind drop, all traffic flowing in on that vc will suffer from; dtraffic to other (uncongested) interfaces, and this regardless of the router having pl; oto the static buffer allocation for the PA-A3 ...

I've been arguing th;t'the other PA's (Ethernet, HSSI, POS, high speed Serials) use dynamic buffer ;caproblem.

If any of you have similar problems, please log a ca;itfor it to be linked to CSCdp96197

(*) the SRAM on the NPE is carved into 512 bytes particles, and each ;ck

/Jesper

-- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCI;45Private: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ; OOne IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.

From tonyb@uk.uu.net;n Received: from someone claiming to be pool.pipex.net (IDENT:5010@pool.pipex.net [158.43.128.24]) b;ck for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:34:35 -0500 (envelo;roReceived-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:34:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 5908 invoked by uid 679); 26 Mar 2000 1;:3Message-ID: <20000326193433.5907.qmail@pool.pipex.net> Subject: Re: SRAM on VIP2-50 In-Reply-To: <200003232104.VAA;6@~h\7B.pipex.netSRAM on VIP2-50  at "Mar 23, 2000 09:04:56 pm" To: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@COLT.NET> Date: Sun, 26; 2CC: Michael Beckmann <petzi@apfel.de>, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net From: Tony Barber <tonyb@uk.uu.n;X-X-ID: Tony Barber (ACB118-RIPE) X-Role: Systems Engineer X-Organisation: UUNET (UK), 3X-Old-Org: PIPEX - Public IP Exchange Ltd X-Contact: +44 (0)122Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Neil J. McRae wrote: >On Thu; M> Michael Beckmann <petzi@apfel.de> wrote: > >Every condition :-)

Well, at least when you are an ;:-

tb

> >> Under which conditions does it make sense to upgrade the >> 4 MB SRAM on a VIP2-5$; 8> >> T> Those with loaded guns and those who > >

--Tony

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Anyone using the 6500's with flexwan and DPT OC12 PA's?

Any pointers at www.cisco.;fo

--- Terence C. Giufre-Sweetser

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> >Anyone using the 6500's with fl;n > > > > There is no plan to support the DPT OC12 PA on flexwan

just been told "coming soon"?

--- Ter; C

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At 03:10 PM 3/27/00 +1000, Terenc;ot> >ANyone using the 6500's with flexwan and DPT OC12 PA's? >

There is no plan to support the DPT OC12 PA on flexwan

L; >> >Any pointers at www.cisco.com for performance stats? > >--- >Terence C. Giufre-Sweetser > >+----------;-->| TereDonn Computer Engineering | Phone +61-[0]7-32369366 | >| PO BOX 1054, SPRING HILL 4004 | Mob>| Queensla;us>+-------------------------------+--------------------------+ >

From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07688 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200003271509.KAA07688@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07036; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:41:36 -0500 (envelope-fr;isDate: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:41:36 -0500 X-From_: Joao.Ribeiro@lis2.siemens.pt Mon Mar 27 09;35REceived: from someone claiming to be lontra.ip.pt (lontra.ip.pt [195.23.13.50]) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3);h for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:41:10 -0500 (envelope-from Joao.Ribeiro@lis2.sieme;t)Received: (qmail 66280 invoked by uid 1037); 27 Mar 2000 14:40:59 -0000 Re;ed by lontra2.ip.pt with SMTP; 27 Mar 2000 14:40:59 -0000 Received: from ;nt by mail2.ip.pt with SMTP id PAA66003 for <cisco-nsReceived: from siepor43.net.siemens.pt by via smtpd (fo;ilReceived: by siepor43.net.siemens.pt with Internet Mail Servic;.5 id <HRYQBA81>; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:36:09 +0100 Message-ID: <753C243100F8D211B15C0800060D9D6E9F5E3A@siepor43.net;meFrom: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Ribeiro?= <Joao.Ribeiro@lis2.siemens.pt> To: "Cisco-Nsp Mailing List (E-mail)" <cisco-n;ucOld-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:36:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Co;t- charset="iso-8859-1" X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@p;neResent-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:09:10 -0500 Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [nsp] ATM interface go;up

Hi!

I have a 7200 router connected to a WAN IGX switch and I am having a weird problem on the router. Ab;evchanged state to up" on the router. Everything was workin; fI am using the PA-A3 STM-1 Port Adapter on the 7200. I have experienced this same probl;efrouters and swicthes. The only way I got rid of it was replacing the ATM card on the IGX swi;(Isame switch card without problems. I am using S;e-quite small distances (few meters). Do you think this can be a probl;(TmuchDoes anybody experienced anything like this?

Any help would be good...

Thanks, _;__Joao Fonseca Ribeiro

TAC Support, GNS IB SIEMENS SA, Information & Communication Net

From CMartin@mercury;inReceived: from someone claiming to be hermes.balink.com (baisgate.balink.com [199.45.32.; for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:29:19 -0500 ;veReceived-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:29:19 -0500 Received: by HERMES with Internet Mai;rv id <FSFJL6ZJ>; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:28:22 -0500 Message-ID: <4F8C08CC6E76D311AD1F00508B7872495DA7AF@HERME$;ro;ecDate: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:28:18 -0500 Return-Receipt-To: "Martin, Christian" <CMart;erMIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-88;" > >Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never > Last clearing of "show interface" counters 3d23h > Queu; s> Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 8 drops > 5 minute input rate 5263000 bits/sec, 1171 packe;ec> 471460789 packets input, 603722526 bytes, 0 no buffer > ;Re> 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 720969 ignored, 0 abo; > 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets > 0;pu>

In my experience, this has nothing to do with low-level SRAM drops or o; sthe network dropped a cell due to UPC. I've a;sebut that has changed in newer versions of code. I have a 100Mbps SCR on a VBR-nrt circuit that co;uaignores, never CRCs. We upgraded to 12.08S and this mysteriously began to occur;homight trry correlating cell loss due to UPC with ignores. ;o serial interfaces ignore packets larger than the MTU on the interface. So, if the network doesn't support PPD or;, large frame may merge with another(other) large frame(s) and cause the rx_ring packet buffe; ohand the network layer payload up to the switching process.

HTH,

-/chris ;

Thanks, > > >David Curran >North State Telephone Company >dcurran(at)northstate(dot)net >

From neil@COLT.NET ;MaReceived: from someone claiming to be NetBSD.noc.COLT.NET (NetBSD.noc.COLT.NET [212.74.95.132]) by p;ne for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:42:27 -0500 (envelope;m Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:42:27 -0500 Received: from COLT.NET (localhost.colt.net by Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:42:1To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Ribeiro?= <Joao.Ribeiro@lis2.siemens.pt> cc: "Cisco-Nsp Mailing List (E-mail;ci "Neil J. McRae" <neil@COLT.NET> Subject: Re: [nsp] ATM interface going up every 30 secs.;-r <753C243100F8D211B15C0800060D9D6E9F5E3A@siepor43.ne$;emFrom:Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:42:16 +$; S> quite small distances (few meters). Do you t; t> much power on the transmit lasers??) > Does anybody experienced anything like this? >

I've ;d You should try attenuating the signal. Does a loopback work?;ilNeIl J. McRae C O L T I N T E R N E T neil@COLT.NET "In this world there's two kinds ;eo Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig?"

From wwilliam@cisco.; MReceived: from someone claiming to be mailman.cisco.com (mailman.cisco.com [171.68.225.9]) by p;ne for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:46:57 -0500 (envelope;m Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:46:57 -0500 Received: from wwilliampc (rtp-dial-2-25.cisco.com [10.;6.From: ;e To: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@COLT.NET>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Ribeiro?= <Joao.Ribeiro@;.sCc: "Cisco-Nsp Mailing List \(E-mail\)" <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> Subject: RE: [nsp] ATM interface going up e; 3Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:43:24 -0600 Message-ID: <NCBBJJMHNMHCKBBLEDPOCEGFGEAA.wwilliam@cisco.com> MIME-Version:; C charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: N;l X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Impo;ceIn-Reply-To: <200003271642.RAA01872@NetBSD.noc.COLT.NET>

This sounds very much like the case (receiver being ove;).cable on, or find some sort of signal attenuator.

Are you seeing all sorts of receive errors?

Incidentall;'dthat card.

Wade

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> I am using Single-Mode Port Adapters and Single-Mode optical fibers for > quite small di;ce(Too > much power on the transmit lasers??) > Does anybody experienced;th>

I've heard of this, I suspect that one of the recievers is being blown. You should try attenuating the s;l.

Neil. -- Neil J. McRae C O L T I N T E R N E T neil@COLT.NET "In t;wo Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig?"

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Hiinterface when this problem happens.

Slot 5: ATM WAN OC3 (SMI) port adapter, 1 port ; Port adapter insertion time 3w4d ago EEPROM contents at hardware discovery: ;Ha Serial number 15225939 Part number 73-2427-04 ; h EEPROM format version 1 EEPROM contents (hex): ;0: 0x30: 50 00 00 00 99 09 10 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

Thanks, ;o

-----Original Message----- From: Wade Williams [mailto:wwilliam@cisco.com] ;: To: Neil J. McRae; Jo=E3o Ribeiro Cc: Cisco-Nsp Mailing List (ESubject:

This sounds very much like the long;ab

Are you seeing all sorts of receive errors?

Incidentally, I'd appreciate ; sfor that card.

Wade

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-----Original Message----- From: neil@COLT.NET [mailto:neil@;.NSenT: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:42 AM To: Jo=E3o Ribeiro Cc: Cisco-Nsp Mailing List (E-mail); Neil J. McRae Subject: R%;ns =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=3DE3o_Ribeiro?=3D <Joao;eiwrote:

> I am using Single-Mode Port Adapters and Single-Mode optical fibers = for > quite small di;ceproblem? (Too > much power on the transmit lasers??) > Does anybody experienc;ny>

I've heard of this, I suspect that one of the recievers is being blown. You should try attenuating the;na

Neil. -- Neil J. McRae C O L T I N T E R N E T neil@COLT.NET "In;s Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig?"

From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22859 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200003280250.VAA22859@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA20081; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:36:30 -0500 (envelope-fr;isDate: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:36:30 -0500 X-From_: pete@kpnqwest.fi Mon Mar 27 18:36:29 2000 ;iv silver.kpnqwest.fi (silver.kpnqwest.fi [193.64.226.17]) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3;th for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:36:27 -0500 (envelope-from pete@kpnqwest.fi) Rec;d-Received: from tossu (silver.kpnqwest.fi [193.64.226.17]) by silver.kpnqwest.fi (8.;8. Tue, 28 Mar 2000 02:36:13 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from pete@kpnqwest.fi) Message-ID: <005301b;5$From: "Petri Helenius" <pete@kpnqwest.fi> To: "Rubens Kuhl Jr." <rkuhljr@uol.com.br>, <c;-nReferences: <004801bf9533$7c53ca40$5cf1e7c8@users.uol.com.br> Subject: Re: Shasta and Cisco routers an;itOlD-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:06:27 +0930 Organization: KPNQwest Finland Oy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plai;chContent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Exp; 5X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To:;coReSent-From: jared@puck.nether.net Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:50:45 -0500 Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net ; W> with Cisco routers and switches ?

It didnt wo;it

> Does it goes ok with ATM connections to Cisco Catalyst doing;er> bridging ?

Yes. (also with earlier code)

> Is EGP/IGP to Cisco routers running smoothly ?

Yes. (1.5 onward;Pe

> > > > Rubens Kuhl Jr. > > > > >

From mfcho@hknet.com;e Received: from someone claiming to be emethist.hknet.com (emethist.hknet.com [202.67.240.233]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:42:42 -0500 (envelop;omReceived-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:42:42 -0500 Received: from intranet.hknet.com (intranet.hknet.com [20;.2 by emethist.hknet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA28846 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:;9 Received: from localhost (mfcho@localhost) by intranet.hknet.com with ESMTP id e2SDgdv11408 for <cisco-nsp@;.nX-Authentication-Warning: intranet.hknet.com: mfcho owned process doing ;DaFrom: Cho Man Fai <mfcho@hknet.com> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <P;BSMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject:;p]

Dear all,

>From my understanding, fully mesh is required for ibgp within an AS. What if there is no full mesh? I ;d find any mention about full mesh of ibgp.

Any input is welcome.

Thanks in advance;ho

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Cho Man; w>> Dear all, > > >From my understanding, fully mesh is required for ibgp within an AS. What > if there is no full;h?to other IBGP peers.

Suppose you have a config;io

A------------B-----------C

A speaks IBGP with B. B speaks IBGP with C. A doesn't speak IBGP with C.

Routes%;rn

There may be situations where you don't need a full mesh, but you have to;er

Hope this helps!

Bye!

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> Cho Man > > > >From my understanding,;ly> > if there is no full mesh? I tried to find the BGP4 RFC, however, I don't%; f> > Yakov.

;. talking ibgp, but one of them is not fully meshed.. See;heproblem... What is the potential problems?! Any pointer?

Thanks. :)

Cho Man Fai

From fhege@sover.net;e Received: from someone claiming to be marble.sover.net (fhege@marble.sover.net [209.198.87.131]) b;ck for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:41:38 -0500 (envel;frReceived-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:41:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (fhege@localhost) by marble.s;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:41:36 -0500 (EST) Comments: ;rN localhost from fhege@localhost 0 Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:41:36 -0500 (EST) X-Authentic;n-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:41:36 -0500 (EST) From:To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.1000328093942MIME-Versio;.0Subject: [nsp] Load Balancing of Frame PVCs

Does anyone have a suggestion on;oo3.072Mb frame PVCs? Bell Atlantic doesn't seem to want to build anything bigger. Any id;or

Thanks,

-Dale

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On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 09:41:36AM -0500, Dale Heg;ot> >> 3.072Mb frame PVCs? Bell Atlantic doesn%;ee

Per packet load-sharing, if the routers ar;pathe below should work (given same static routes, or IGP metrics are applied to all links, and maxim;at

ip cef [distributed] ! interface Serial A ip route-cache cef ip load-sharing per-packet ! interface Se; B ip load-sharing per-packet ! interface Serial C ip route-cache cef ip load-sharing per-packet ! in;ac ip route-cache cef ip load-sharing per-packet ! interface Serial E ip route-cache cef ip load-sharing per-p;t ip route-cache cef ip load-sharing per-packet ! interface Serial G ip route-cache cef ip load-sha; p

/Jesper

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Hello, ;t cpu usage noticeable?

I've been itching to try this ; abugs with CEF mentioned here... Is CEF less buggy on "single CPU" platforms like th;00ThanKs,

Charles

On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Jesper Skriver wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 09:41:36AM -0500, Dale Hege wro;> > > Does anyone have a suggestion on a good method for load balancing over 6 > > 3.072Mb frame PVCs? Bell Atlantic does;se> > bigger. Any ideas or suggestions would be great. > > Per packet load-sharing, if the rou; a> the below should work (given same static routes, or IGP metrics are > applied to all links;d > > ip cef [distributed] > ! > interface Serial A > ip route-cache cef > ip> !  interface Serial B > ip route-cache cef > ip load-sharing per-packe> ip route-cache%; >> ip load-sharing per-packet > ! > interface ;al> iP route-cache cef > ip load-sharing per-packet > ! > interface Serial F > ip route-cache cef > ip load-sharing p;ac> ! > interface Serial G > ip route-cache cef > ip load-sharing per-packet > > /Jesper > > -- > Jesper Skriver, j;r(> Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) > Private> > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver >

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Hi all...

As you ma; mjune this year.

So I am looking at a cisco switch solution for ;ulwhat recommendations does everyone have for me on a catalyst switch 48 ports layer 3 switching..?

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ON Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 04:08:55PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: > Hel> cpu usage noticeable?

No CPU impact at all, it's the same "normal" cef switching.

> I;be> bugs with CEF mentioned here... Is CEF less buggy on;ng> CPU" platforms like the 7200?

We run it on all our routers, 7200, 7500 and GSR's late 11.1(x)CC, 12.0(x)S or 12.0(x);Je

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I ran into the same problem with a 4000M and the NP-2E-FDX module. Cisco states on their site: http://www.c;.cthat the NP-2E-FDX is only supported on the 4;&

Ship it back and get a NP-2E.

McLean

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, George Robbins wrote:

> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:;9 > From: George Robbins <grr@shandakor.tharsis.com> > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net, rkuhljr@uol.com.br > Subje%;Re> Resent-From: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.;> > > in the Cisco 4500 and Cisco 4700 ser;ro> > releases 11.2(14)P and 11.3(4)T. > > You might want to try the P or T train post these;ea> the 12.0T train. "new" hardware doesn't neccessarily make it into > the mainstream releases, and what thi;in> got an NP card with and ID code that it doesn't know what it is... > > If this fails, I guess ; a> notes of boot-rom version dependencies, and I assume you've been > promised that t;ar> > George > > > From: "Rubens Kuhl Jr." <rkuhljr@uol.com.br> > > To: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net;> > > Importance: Normal > > Subject: [nsp] Cisco 4000 and FDX interfaces > > > > I'm;in> > Cisco 4000-M, with no sucess. During boot time the erro;ss> > is > > %NIM-2-BADNIMID: Bad NIM ID (Ox16) in slot 1 > > > > Documentation list IOS 11.2(14) as minimu r;re> > 12.0(9) have both failed to recgonize the module. Hints ? > > > > > > > > Rubens Kuhl J > > > >

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On Tue, Mar 28, 200%; 0> > I've been itching to try this over a few T's, but I've seen so many nasty > bugs with CEF m;on> CPU" platforms like the 7200?

CEF is very stable on the 720x series routers. ;coTo the 12xxx and 75xx series routers, your 720x will run like your telephone service. It will just work. Very few;s running MPLS or something cool like that...

I haven't filed a DDTS on my 72xx series routers in a fair am; o

- Jared

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Jesper Skriver said:

> > Per packet load-sharing, if the routers are capable of doing cef, then ;e > applied to all links, and maximum-paths are set to 6) > ;e about the effect of CEF load sharing on the CPU. I'd like to ; hso strict that if the packet comes in on an unexpected ;llthat it will be dropped or is there enough info in the forwarding table to check the reverse path against all path;Ifchecking still works when there are lots of reverse paths to check, does THAT have an effect on the CPU?

-j

From owner-cisco-nsp;k.Received: from someone claiming to be hq.oh.verio.net (hq.oh.verio.net [209.57.200.; for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:14:06 -0500 ;veReceived-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:14:06 -0500 Received: from amber.greyhelm.co;DE by hq.oh.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03043 for <cisco-nsp@iagne;t>Received: (from khagen@localhost) by amber.greyhelm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32017;ueDate: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:15:00 -0600 From: "Karl S. Hagen" <khagen@greyhelm.com> To: Paul Ja; <Cc: cisco-nsp@iagnet.net Subject: Re: [nsp] cisco switch Message-ID: <20000328181500.A32014@greyhelm.com%;feMime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-;erIn-Reply-To: <4.3.1.0.20000328093510.0129a7d8@mail.netpacq.com>; from Paul Jacobs on Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at ;2:

If your going new.. look at 6x00 or 4x00 switchs. The backplanes are more advanced than the 550x line;ch

Thus spake Paul Jacobs (paul@netpacq.com):

> Hi all... > > As you may or may not have heard 3;is> june this year. > > So I am looking at a cisco switch solution for my fully 3Com netwo;, > ports layer 3 switching..? > > Best regards,;au> Commerce Service Provider (CSP) > Internet Presence Provider (IPP) > Streaming Video and M;> > mailto:paul@netpacq.com > Picture : http://www.netpacq.com/nis_team.htm

-- Karl S. Hagen ; Cisco Certified Network Assoc. (CCNA) pager email: 4317622@skyt;omRaytheon IT Network Security http://www.greyhelm.com/~khagen/

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Does anyone know the performance impact of priority queueing on a link's throughput and the router's processor in ;12or 1.1?

-Jon

-- Jonathan Looney Phone: (215)898-3121 University of Pennsylvania401 Walnut Street, Suite 221A E-mail: looney@isc.upenn.edu Philad

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The 6500 _MAYBE_ will not block when the crossbar switch will be available. Before that the aggregat;ndinterfaces into it.

Pete

----- Original Message -; FTo: "Martin Cooper" <mjc@cooper.org.uk> Cc: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> Sent: Thursda;arSubject: Re: Non-blocking Cisco switches?

> > as far as i know, the 6500 doesn't block. I've never ; a> problems on it ... The LINX problem was that 5500s still have the 3.5 g > crossbar backplane, and I don't ;k > summer of 98, when LINX was looking to upgrade. The 6500 will go to 256 > Gig ... so there is%;th> > > In the light of <URL:http://www.lightreadi;om> > can anyone say if Cisco's new switches (e.g. Catalyst 6000, 8500 series, > > etc.) support n;lo > > > (I wondered if perhaps these product lines weren't available when the > > LINX was planning its upgrade to ;bi> > time ago now.) > > > > We're going to need to upgrade our Catalyst 5500s to support Gigab; >> > kit again, we're inclined to share LINX's view th;on> > a desirable feature in a gigabit ether-switch. > > > > M. > > > > > >

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Cho Man, > > > >From my understanding, fully mesh is r;re> > > if there is no full mesh? I tried to find the BGP4 RFC, however, I don't > > > find an;nt> > > > One could use BGP Route Reflectors to avoid full mesh of iBGP. > > > > Yakov. > > ;. > talking ibgp, but one of them is not fully meshed.. S; t> problem... What is the potential problems?! Any pointer?

One of the potential problems is creation of persis; floops. Bear in mind, that this is a potential problem, and therefore it may occur in some, but not all circumsta;.

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Hi!

The reason is that when BGP router receives an update via IBGP from = another BGP r;r other BGP routers of the same AS. It will only redistribute t;= to BGP routers outside its AS.

-----Original Message----- From: Cho Man Fai [mailto:mfcho@hknet.com] Sent: Te;a-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [nsp] ibgp

Dear all,

>From my understanding,;lyWhat if there is no full mesh? I tried to find the BGP4 RFC, however, I = don't;d

Any input is welcome.

Thanks in advance.

Cho Man Fai

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Cho Man

> >From my understanding, fully mesh is require;r > if there is no full mesh? I tried to find the BGP4 RFC, however, I don't > find any mention abou;ll

One could use BGP Route Reflectors to avoid full mesh of iBGP.

Yakov.

From khagen@greyhelm; Received: from someone claiming to be amber.greyhelm.com (IDENT:root@amber.greyhelm.com [199.46;.3 by for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 00:28:12 -'; Received: (from khagen@localhost) by a;.g for cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 23:29:12 -0600 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 20;3:From: "Karl S. Hagen" <khagen@greyhelm.com> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <20000328232912.A32435@g;elMime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us Subject: [nsp] iBGP

Depen; o simulate a Full mesh when there is none.

An example wou;e the key interface. Then setup your mesh against the loopbacks w; w Look as a fully meshed network thanks to eigrp. This works very well, especially if you have many different pa;an loads or bandwidth. You basically let iBGP worry about the edge and eigrp worry about how ;et

I have it setup now, works great. Its handled automatic(hehe) link failures without; i the best links at that moment.

-- Karl S. Hagen ; Cisco Certified Network Assoc. (CCNA) pager email: 4317622@skyt;omRaytheon IT Network Security http://www.greyhelm.com/~khagen/

From danny@sofos.tcb; Received: from someone claiming to be tcb.net (tcb.net [205.168.100.1]) by puck.nether.net (8.;8. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:07:59 -0500 (envelope-from danny@sofos.;neReceIved-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:07:59 -0500 Received: from sofos.tcb.net (sofos.tcb.net [127.0.0.1]) by tcb.net (8.;8. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 23:07:40 -0700 Message-Id: <200003290607.XA;40X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net From: Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> Reply-To: danny;.nSubjEct: Re: [nsp] iBGP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 23:07:40 -'; Sroute that wa;aryou have non-BGP speaking intermediate transient routers and th;ecpacket with a destination address external to the AS they'll have no knowledge of how to reach th

Ianything regarding a layer 2-only core (via ATM, MPLS, FR, whatever), which is perhap;e

If you're simply suggesting that he use the loopback addresses as iB;ouinTerfaces and [insert_IGP_here] for BGP next hop reachibility, then that makes sense, though it still doesn't accom;temesh" comments.

As for the observation that your IGP converges faster than BGP, that was c;an

As already suggested, depending on the number of routers in the AS, ;RoReFlection is usually the most elegant solution.

-danny

> > Depending on your layout, you could try to layer ro;g > simulate a Full mesh when there is none. > > An example would be a wide area network with eigrp on ;si> the key interface. Then setup your mesh against the loopbacks which will > look as a fully meshed ;or> especially if you have many different paths and each path has different > ;oa> worry about how to get the packets to the iBGP;e.> > without the iBGP even blinking.;s > the best links at that moment. > > -- > Karl S. Hagen ; > Cisco Certified Network Assoc. (CCNA) pager email: 4317622@skytel.com > Sr. N';rk>

From grr@shandakor.t;isReceived: from someone claiming to be shandakor.tharsis.com (IDENT:root@shandakor.tharsis; [ by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00512 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000;31 (envelope-from grr@shandakor.tharsis.com) Received-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:31:21 -0500 Received: (from grr@lo;osDate: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:31:;05From: George Robbins <grr@shandakor.tharsis.com> Message-Id: <200003290631.BAA08276@shandakor.tharsis.com> To: ci;nsSubject: Re: [nsp] iBGP

Then again, BGP confederations let you set up a multi-tier; sthAt's all very explicit. We use iBGP only for small clusters that are actually meshed across an ethernet or via mul;e links and use private AS's within the confederation for parts that are less well connnected.

Cisco offers many w';to> From: "Karl S. Hagen" <khage;ey> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Subject: [nsp] iBGP > > > Depending on your layout, y;ou> simulate a Full mesh when there is none. > > An example would be a wide are;tw> the key interface. Then setup your mesh against the loopbacks which will > ;k > especially if you have many different paths and ea;at> loads or bandwidth. You basically let iBGP worry about the edge and eigrp > worry about how to get; p> > I have it setup now, works great. Its handled automatic(hehe) link failures > without; i> the best links at that moment. > > -- > Karl S. Hage; > Cisco Certified Network Assoc. (CCNA) pager email: 43;2@puck.nether.netlinks at that moment. > Sr. Network Engineer pager: (888) 431-7622 > Raytheon IT Network Security http://www.greyhelm.com;ag> 

From khagen@greyhelm; Received: from someone claiming to be amber.greyhelm.com (IDENT:root@amber.greyhelm.com [199.46;.3 by for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 02:35:37 -'; Received: (from khagen@localhost) by a;.g Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:36:29 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:36:29 -0600 From: "Karl ;agTo: Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] iBGP Messag;: References: <200003290607.XAA18440@tcb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plai;haX-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <200003290607.XAA18440@tcb.net>; from Danny McPherson on Tue, Mar 28, 2;at

Thus spake Danny McPherson (danny@tcb.net):

> I'm confused here. How does this solve the "one iBGP ro; c> route that was learned from another iBGP router to a third iBGP router"? If > you have non-BGP speak;in> packet with a destination address external to the AS they'll have no kn;dg> of

True. What I suggested would established a Full Mesh. Meaning ever'; r mesh.

> I suppose in a teny(sp?) tiny network ;co> their IGP, though this is ill-advised .. for many reasons. You didn't mention > anyt; r> perhaps the way things are evolving, though still ;e

I didnt say anything about redistribution. Not a thing. What I suggested provides a fully-meshed iBGP, n;ng redistribution.. be my guest. I dont.

> If you're simply suggesting that he use the l;ac> interfaces and [insert_IGP_here] for BGP next hop reachibility, then that > makes sense, th; i> mesh" comments.

True.. it doesnt handle his "not" wanting a;l- his comment more to the fact that he couldn't fully-mesh due to most not being directly conn;d. non-directly connected routers into a iBGP, that works very well for me. It ;no own. :)

> As for the observation that your IGP converge;st> certianly a goal when the default Holdtime was selected :-) > > As already suggested, depending ;he> Reflection is usually the most elegant solution.

True. Size could make thi;ry that he might or might not find usefull.

The idea behind "Suggestions" i; f try to solve world hunger.

-- Karl S. Hagen ema;khCisco Certified Network Assoc. (CCNA) pager email: 4317622@skytel.com Sr. Network Engineer ; Raytheon IT Network Security http://www.greyhelm.com/~khagen/

From khagen@greyhelm; Received: from someone claiming to be amber.greyhelm.com (IDENT:root@amber.greyhelm.com [199.46;.3 by for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 02:41:07 -'; Received: (from khagen@localhost) by a;.g Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:42:07 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:42:07 -0600 From: "Karl ;agTo: George Robbins <grr@shandakor.tharsis.com> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] ; MReferences: <200003290631.BAA08276@shandakor.tharsis.com> Mime-Version: 1.;ntX-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <200003290631.BAA08276@shandakor.tharsis.com>;;m

Thus spake George Robbins (grr@shandakor.tharsis.com):

> Then ag; B> that's all very explicit. We use iBGP only for small clusters t;> > links and use private AS's within the confederation for ;s > Are less well connnected. > > Cisco offers many ways to confuse you or your routers... 8-)

Oh so very true. ; Y and doing Layer 3 routing. Oh what fun. IPSEC isnt a valid trackable ;te at layer 3.

> George

Try it sometime;et mode against 3 other routers. Then try to layer on routing, such;t a Oh and GRE tunnels is cheating since IPS;un huge waste, tho funny enough, that was one suggesting I got from cisco.

-- Karl S. Hagen ; Cisco Certified Network Assoc. (CCNA) pager email: 4317622;teSR. Network Engineer pager: (888) 431-7622 Raytheon IT Network Security http://www.greyhelm.com/~khagen/'From jesper@skriver.;WeReceived: from someone claiming to be freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 03:12:51 -0500 (envelop;omReceived-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 03:12:51 -0500 Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (PostfixDate: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:To: Jim Warner <warner@cats.UCSC.EDU> Cc: spork@inch.com, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net, fhege@sover.net Subject: Re: [nsp];d Message-ID: <20000329101250.B43148@skriver.dk> References: <200003282336.PAA11004@sasha.UCSC.EDU> ;-VContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200003282336.PAA11004@sasha.UCS;U>

On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 03:36:29PM -0800, Jim Warner';te> > the below ;ld> > applied to all links, and maximum-paths are set to 6) > > > > Th;es> about the effect of CEF load sharing on the CPU. I'd like to kn; h> so strict that if the packet comes in on an unexpecte;ra> that it will be dropped or is there enough info in the forwarding > table to check the reverse path against al;th> checking still works when there are lots of reverse paths to check, > does THAT have an effect on th;U?I'd expect it to be small.

/Jesper

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> Does anyone know the performance impact of priority queueing > on a link's throu;t > or 12.1? Priority queueing is process-swiched.

---------------------------------;--Basil (Vasily) Dolmatov CCIE #5347, CCNP-Security, CCDA East Connection ISP, Moscow, Russia. (http://;ea

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Hi Chris,

I am going to replace a MSM (running IOS 12.0) on a Catalyst6009 for a Supervisor with MSFC. I was;nkon the MSFC. If you use IOS on the Sups does it mean that you;e for the Sup and for the MSFC? What about the Config file? Will it become a = single one also?

__________;__Joao Fonseca Ribeiro

TAC Support, GNS IB SIEMENS SA, Information & Communication Networks=20 ;e:

-----Original Message----- From: Chris Fairbanks [mailto:ChrisF@winterlink.net] Sent: Quinta-feira, 23;MaTo: 'Terence'; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: RE: [nsp] Cat 6000?

I have installed a couple of do;cathe last couple of months and they have been working fine. Only had one = little CEF ;leof 6500s, has anyone played with running IOS on the sups? ;stinstAlled it on a pair of 6509s to play with last night. Seems like they have some definite issues to work out yet.

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> I am going to replace a MSM (running IOS 12.0) ; C> Supervisor with MSFC. > I was thinking about running 5.3(4)CSX on the Supervisor and 12.1(1)E on the >;C.> Sup and for the MSFC? What about the Co; f> one also?

Since 12.0(7)XE and 12.1(1)E, there are two completely different images for the ;, Catalyst IOS.

The MSFC IOS as in previous versions, runs on the MSFC. It sti;eq

The Catalyst IOS also runs on the MSFC but also takes over the Supe;orbut in IOS-spoke added to the standard layer 3 IOS config (sing;on

A sample Catalyst IOS config (the syntax is similar to the 2;35switChes):

interface Port-channel1 no ip address switchport switchport trunk encapsulation isl switchport mode tru; i no ip address no ip directed-broadcast ! interface GigabitEthernet1/2 no ip address no ip ;ct! interface FastEthernet3/1 no ip address switchport switchport access vlan 35 switchport mode access sw;po switchport protocol ipx auto switchport protocol appletalk auto switchport protocol other auto spa;g-! interface FastEthernet3/2 no ip address switchport switchport trunk encapsulation isl switchport mode ;k

... other traditional IOS config commands ...

Currently, 12.0(7)XE1 and 12.1(1)E are similar ;eathe latter is based on the new 12.1 train.

Quan,

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On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Jesper Skriver wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 09:41:36AM -0500, Dale Hege wrote: > > > > Does;on> > 3.072Mb frame PVCs? Bell Atlantic doesn't seem to want ;ui> > bigger. Any ideas or suggestions would be great. > > Per packet load-sharing, if the routers are capable ;oi> the below should work (given same static routes, or IGP metrics are > applied to all links, and maximum-pat;re> > ip cef [distributed] > ! > interface Serial A > ip route-cache cef > ip load-sharing per-packet > ! > in;ac> ip route-cache cef > ip load-sharing per-packet > ! > interface Serial C > ip route-cache cef > ip load-s;ng> ! > interface Serial D > ip route-cache cef > ip load-sharing per-packet > ! > interface Serial E > ip ro;ca> ip load-sharing per-packet > ! > interface Serial F > ip route-cache cef > ip load-sharing per-packet > ! > i;fa> ip route-cache cef > ip load-sharing per-packet > > /Jesper > > -- > Jesper Skriver, je> Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks> > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, > One IP to bring them all and in the zone to b>

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Any ideas on how a 6500 achieve 15 Mpps (more with future supervisors);L3A 6500 MSFC is something like a 7200, which is rated@200 kpps (more with new NPEs), far less than 15000 kpps.

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> -----Original Message----- > From: Petri Helenius [mailto:pete@kpnqwest.fi] > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000;2 > To Travis Pugh; Martin Cooper > Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: Non-blocking Cisco switches? > > > > Th;00> available. > Before that the aggregate > bandwidth of the box i;pr> interfaces into it. > > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tr; P> To: "Martin Cooper" <mjc@cooper.org.uk> > Cc: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> > Sent: Thursday, March; 2> Subject: Re: Non-blocking Cisco switches? > > > > > > as far as i know, the 6500 doesn't block. I've never ; a> thRoughput > > problems on it ... The LINX problem was that 5500s still have the 3.5 g > > crossbar backplane, and I ;t > > summer of 98, when LINX was looking to upgrade. The 6500 will go to 256 > > Gig ... s;er> > > > -travis > > > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Martin Cooper wrote: > > > > > In the light of > <U;tt> > > can anyone say if Cisco's new switches (e.g. Catalyst 6000, > 8500;ie> >  etc.) support non-blocking? > > > > > > (I wondered if perhaps these product lines weren't available when the > >;IN> > > time ago now.) > > > > > > We're going to need to u;de> > > ethernet fairly soon, and although we're quite keen to go for Cisco > > > kit;in> > > a desirable feature in a gigabit ether-switch. > > > > > >>> > > > >

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On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Ru; K

> Any ideas on how a 6500 achieve 15 Mpps (more with future supervisors) of L3 > routing ? > A 6500 MSFC i;me> NPEs), far less than 15000 kpps.

From what I know, the MSFC s;rtswitching. Only the first packet of a flow will get to the MSFC. QoS and access-lists ar;ndthing that the MSFC has to do.

Quan,

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> > Any ideas on how a 6500 achieve 15 Mpps ;e > supervisors) of L3 > > routing ? > > A 6500 MSFC is something like a 7200, which is rated@200 kpps > (more w';ne> switchin;nl> and access-lists are handled by the PFC hardware so there is litt; t

A 7200 is capable of 100-to-300 kpps of CEF-switching, but only some thousands of pps of pr;s-is capable of 30 kpps of process-switching and flows are 16 packets per f; t

Rubens Kuhl Jr.

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"Rubens Kuhl Jr." <rkuhljr@uol.com.br> wrote:

> A 7200 is capable of 100-to-300 k;of> some thousands of pps of process-switching, which would be the > case. Suppose MSFC is capable ;0 > and flows are 16 packets per flow, this would limit performance > to near 0.5 Mpps.

But Netfl;orI understand it (someone please correct me if I'm wrong about that!), so t;irrather than process switched, thereby allowing higher throughput than on a route;th

M.

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On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Ru; K

> > > Any ideas on how a 6500 achieve 15 Mpps (more with future > > supervisors) of L3 > > > routing ? > >; 6> > (more with new > > > NPEs), far less than 15000 kpps. > > >;Fr> > switching. Only the first packet of a flow will get ;he> > and access-lists are handled by the PFC hardware so there is little > > thing that the MSFC has to do. > >;20> thousands of pps of process-switching, which would be th;se> is capable of 30 kpps of process-switching and flows are 16 packets per > flow, this would limit performa;to

MLS uses CEF. For sure it's not process-switched. With Layer 3 flows, the flow last much longer than 16 p;tsthinking might apply to layer 4 flows only. So 15 Mpps is a marketing number and it is easy to de

AUan,

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>Thus spake Danny McPherson (danny@tcb.net): > >> I'm confused here. How does this solve the "one i;ro>Can't advertise a >> route that was learned from another iBGP router to a third >iBGP router"? If >> you have n;GP>they receive a >> packet with a destination address external to the AS the; >> of how to reach the destination, regardless. > > True. What I suggested would established a Full;h.>MeaNing every > router in the path. Skipping any router would not be >considered a full > mesh.

No. What you ;eseigrp mesh. Unless you have point-to-point connections between every;te

" Depending on your layout, you could try to layer routing protocols to simu; a

> >> I suppose in a teny(sp?) tiny network one could redistribute >BGP routes into >> ';r >> anything regarding a layer >whatever), which is >> perhaps the way things are evolving, thoug> > I didnt say any;g >What I suggested > provides a fully-meshed iBGP, nothing more. If you want to at;t

No, you didn't. You suggested it, though.

"You basically let iBGP worry abo;he worry about how to get the packets to the iBGP edge"

What Danny was saying is that this cannot be assu; aknow how to forward a packet outside the AS if there is no route there. Just because a BGP edge router;s the insertion point in the RIB, does not mean that a non-BGP speaker has this inf;ti

> >> If you're simply suggesting that he use the loopback >addresses as iBGP source >> inte';es>> makes sense, though it still doesn't accommodate his;n'>wanT a full iBGP >> mesh" comments. > > True.. it doesnt handle his "not" wanting a full-mesh. But >then I read >';is> not being directly connected. I found an interst;wa> non-directly connected routers into a iBGP, that works very >well for me. > It may not be for everyon;ut>at on their > own. :)

Somewhere along the line, someone made the erroneous assumption th; Bfulluntrue. An iBGP full-mesh is required to preve;or(in most cases) misconfiguration in terms of costs. Since the BGP decision process uses various metr; abetween different routers. If NLRI information was allowed to be transitively ;ricould cause a persistent forwarding loop. There are countless ways; tto Happen. If this is unclear, think of why DV IGPs implement hold-downs when routes with worse metrics become the on;ayhas been lost.

>> As for the observation that your IGP converges faster than >BGP, that was >>;ti>> >> As already suggested, depending on the number of routers in ;e >> Reflection is usually the most elegant solution. > > True. Size could make this very harsh. Again.. ;s > that he might or might not find usefull. > > The idea behind "Suggestions" is to find interest; >> try to solve world hunger.

There are very important reasons why the BGP designers required a full;P confderations, etc. Your solution cannot work in a network;h speakers carrying a full-table and core IGP speakers with next-hop infromation only.

The point is, make sure th;veinformation from every other router, be from a full mesh, reflection, or confederation-b; e

Regards, Chris

> >-- >Karl S. Hagen em; >Cisco Certified Network Assoc. (CCNA) pager email: >4317622@skytel.com >Sr. Network Engin; >Raytheon IT Network Security http://www.greyhelm.com/~khagen/

From jesper@skriver.;WeReceived: from someone claiming to be freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:10:36 -0500 (envelop;omReceived-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:10:36 -0500 Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 10; iDate: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:10:35 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver <jesper@skr;.dTo: Dale Hege <fhege@sover.net> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] Load Balancing of Frame PVCs Message-I;20References: <20000328201723.D40471@skriver.dk> <Pine.BSI.4.05L.10003290924590.1736-100000@;leMime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.4.05;00

On Wed, Mar 29, 2;at> When you turn on ip route-cache cef on the interface does this also apply > to the s;nt

Yes.

router#sh ip int s6/3.16 Serial6/3.16 is up, line protocol is up Internet address is x.x.x.x/30 ;oa Address determined by non-volatile memory MTU is 1500 bytes Helper address is not s; D Outgoing access list is not set Inbound access list is not set Proxy ARP i;sa Security level is default Split horizon is enabled ICMP redirects are never sent ICMP unreachables are always;t IP fast switching is enabled IP fast switching on the same interface is enabled I;ow IP CEF switching is enabled IP Feature Fast switching turbo vector IP Feature CEF switching t; v IP multicast distributed fast switching is disabled IP route-cache flag';e Ro IP access violation a RTP/IP header compression is disable ;cy Network address translation is disabled WCCP Redirect outbound is disabled WCCP Redirect exclud'; drouter#sh ver Cisco Internetwork Operating System Softwar;OS

/Jesper

-- Jesper Skriver, jesWork: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) P

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From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20575 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200003291839.NAA20575@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20565; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:38:58 -0500 (envelope-fr;isDate: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:38:58 -0500 X-From_: majdi@puck.nether.net Wed Mar 29 13:38:58 ; R by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20549 for cisco-nsp; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:38:58 -0; (From: Majdi Abbas <majdi@puck.nether.net> Received-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:38:58 -0500 Message-Id: ;00To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Old-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:38:57 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ;[vMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Diagnostic:; oX-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@puck.nether.net Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:39:14 -0500;enSubject: [nsp] RSM DMA stats via SNMP?

Anyone know if it's possible to get the stats fr; 'running 11.2(17)P. Upgrading this is not out of the question (32M RAM/16M fl;.

Thanks

--msa

RSM>sh control c5ip DMA Channel 0 (status ok) Received 8078738K packets, 335085;yt ONe minute rate, 14962788 bits/s, 4606 packets/s Ten minute rate, 13479916 bits/s, 4367 packets/s Dropped 5818;ac Last drop (0x814009), vlan 9, length 64, rsm;cr Error counts, 56 crc, 0 index, 0 dmac-length, 1 dmac-synch, 0 dmac-timeout Transmitted 5314920K ;et One minute rate, 9989399 bits/s, 3077 packets/s Ten minute rate, 10297908 bits/s, 3082 packets/s ; C Received 1600735K packets, 483994542K bytes One minute rate, 1917237 bits/s, 845 packets/s Te;nu Dropped 304105 packets 235 ignore, 0 line-down, 0 runt, 0 giant, 303870 uni;-f Error counts, 18 crc, 0 index, 0 dmac;gt Transmitted 3771000K packets, 1184619M bytes One minute rate, 8063576 bits/s, 2190 p;ts TEn minute rate, 6106989 bits/s, 1889 packets/s

Vlan Type DMA Channel Method 1 ethernet 1 ; 2 ethernet 0 auto 3 ethernet 1 auto 4 ethe; 5 ethernet 1 auto 7 ethernet 0 auto 8 ; 9 ethernet 0 auto 10 ethernet 1 auto ; 12 ethernet 1 auto 13 ethernet 0 ; a14 ethernet 1 auto 15 ethernet 0 auto 16 ethernet ; 17 ethernet 0 auto 18 ethernet 1 auto 19 ;rn20 ethernet 1 auto 21 ethernet 0 auto ; 23 ethernet 0 auto 24 ethernet 1 a; 2 ethernet 0 auto 30 ethernet 0 auto 31 ethernet 1 ; 32 ethernet 0 auto 33 ethernet 1 auto 34 ethern; 35 ethernet 1 auto 36 ethernet 0 auto 37 ;et38 ethernet 0 auto 39 ethernet 1 auto ; 41 ethernet 1 auto 50 ethernet 0 ;ut51 ethernet 1 auto 52 ethernet 0 auto 53 ethernet ; 54 ethernet 0 auto 55 ethernet 1 auto 56 et;et57 ethernet 1 auto 58 ethernet 0 auto ; 60 ethernet 1 auto 61 ethernet 0 aut; 62 63 ethernet 0 auto 64 ethernet 1 ; 70 ethernet 0 auto 71 ethernet 1 auto 72 ethernet;0 73 ethernet 1 auto 74 ethernet 0 auto 75 ;he76 ethernet 0 auto 77 ethernet 1 auto ;7879 ethernet 1 auto 80 ethernet 0 ;o 81 ethernet 1 auto 82 ethernet 0 auto 83 ethernet 1 ; 84 ethernet 0 auto 85 ethernet 1 auto 90 ethe; 91 ethernet 1 auto 92 ethernet 0 auto 93; 94 ethernet 0 auto 95 ethernet 1 auto ; 97 ethernet 1 auto 98 ethernet 0 ; a99 ethernet 1 auto 203 ethernet 0 auto 250 ethernet ; 251 ethernet 0 auto 252 ethernet 1 auto 253 ;rn254 ethernet 1 auto

Inband IPC (status running) Pending mess;,

Vlan0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is Cat5k Virtual Ethernet, address is 00;e9 Internet address is 127.0.0.3/8 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100000 Kbit, DLY 100 us ARP ty Last input ;, Last clearing of "show interface" counters never Queueing strategy: fifo Output queu;40 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 ;et Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 ;t 1249 packets output, 117792 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output er;, 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24238 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200003292121.QAA24238@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23674; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:31:10 -0500 (envelope-fr;isDate: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:31:10 -0500 X-From_: dlucey@exodus.net Wed Mar 29 15:31:09 2000;ei localhost.localdomain (hebephrenic.exodus.net [209.185.97.100]) by puck.nether.net (8.;8. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:31:05 -0500 (envelope-from dlucey@exodu;t)Received: from localhost (dog@localhost) by localhost.loc for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:Old-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:27:22 -0800 (PST) From: David Lucey <dlucey@exodus.ne;-STo: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] RSM DMA stats via SNMP? In-Reply-To: <20;29Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10003291213450.27703-100000@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version:; CX-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared;k.Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:21:16 -0500 Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

I've been looking for someth;tochannel in the MIB for a while (been on the phone to cisco, etc.). As far as I know there is nothing in ;MI

Regards, David Lucey

On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Majdi Abbas wrote:

> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:38:58 -0500 > Fr;Ma> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: [nsp] RSM DMA stats via SNMP? > Resent-Date: '; 2> Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > > > Anyone know;it> from a 'show controller c5ip' via SNMP? The RSM is > running 11.2(17)P. Upgrading this i;t > question (32M RAM/16M flash). Sample output below: > > Thanks > > --msa > > RSM>sh control c5ip > DMA C;el> Received 8078738K packets, 3350850M bytes > One minute rate, 14962788 bits/s, 4606 packets/s > T;in> Dropped 581866 packets > 251 ignore, 0 line-down, 0 runt, 0 giant, 581;un> Last drop (0x814009), vlan 9, length 64, rsm-discrim 0, result-bus 0x5 > Error counts, 56 crc, 0 ind;0 > Transmitted 5314920K packets, 2807845M bytes > One minute rate, 9989399 ;/s> Ten minute rate, 10297908 bits/s, 3082 packets/s > > DMA Channel 1 (status ok) > Received 1600735;ck> One minute rate, 1917237 bits/s, 845 packets/s > Ten minute rate, 2077573 bits/s, 790 packet;> > 235 ignore, 0 line-down, 0 runt, 0 giant, 303870 unicast-flood > Last drop (0x814047';la>> One minute rate, 8063576 bits/s, 2190 packets/s > Ten minute rate;06> > Vlan Type DMA Channel Method > 1 ethernet 1 auto ; 2> 3 ethernet 1 auto > 4 ethernet 0 ; > 5 ethernet 1 auto > 7 ethernet 0 auto > 8 eth;t > 9 ethernet 0 auto > 10 ethernet 1 auto ; 1> 12 ethernet 1 auto > 13 ethernet 0 ; > 14 ethernet 1 auto > 15 ethernet 0 auto > 16 eth;t > 17 ethernet 0 auto > 18 ethernet 1 auto ; 1> 20 ethernet 1 auto > 21 ethernet 0 ; > 22 ethernet 1 auto > 23 ethernet 0 auto > 24 eth;t > 25 ethernet 0 auto > 30 ethernet 0 auto ; 3> 32 ethernet 0 auto > 33 ethernet 1 ; > 34 ethernet 0 auto > 35 ethernet 1 auto > 36 eth;t > 37 ethernet 1 auto > 38 ethernet 0 auto ; 3> 40 ethernet 0 auto > 41 ethernet 1 ; > 50 ethernet 0 auto > 51 ethernet 1 auto > 52 eth;t > 53 ethernet 1 auto > 54 ethernet 0 auto ; 5> 56 ethernet 0 auto > 57 ethernet 1 ; > 58 ethernet 0 auto > 59 ethernet 1 auto > 60 eth;t > 61 ethernet 0 auto > 62 ethernet 1 auto ; 6> 64 ethernet 1 auto > 70 ethernet 0 ; > 71 ethernet 1 auto > 72 ethernet 0 auto > 73 eth;t > 74 ethernet 0 auto > 75 ethernet 1 auto ; 7> 77 ethernet 1 auto > 78 ethernet 0 ; > 79 ethernet 1 auto > 80 ethernet 0 auto > 81 eth;t > 82 ethernet 0 auto > 83 ethernet 1 auto ; 8> 85 ethernet 1 auto > 90 ethernet 0 ; > 91 ethernet 1 auto > 92 ethernet 0 auto > 93 eth;t > 94 ethernet 0 auto > 95 ethernet 1 auto ; 9> 97 ethernet 1 auto > 98 ethernet 0 ; > 99 ethernet 1 auto > 203 ethernet 0 auto > 250 eth;t > 251 ethernet 0 auto > 252 ethernet 1 auto ; 2> 254 ethernet 1 auto > > Inband IPC (status runni; >> > Vlan0 is up, line protocol is up > Hardware is Cat5k Virt;Et> Internet address is 127.0.0.3/8 > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100000 K; D> Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec) > ARP type: ARPA,; T> Last input 1w2d, output 4d21h, output hang never > Last clearing of "show interface" counters never ;Qu> Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops > 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 pack;se> 1455 packets input, 87307 bytes, 0 no buffer > Received 0;ad> 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort > 1249 pac; o> 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 4 interface resets > 0 output buffer failures,;ut>

From garlic@garlic.c;WeReceived: from someone claiming to be bulb-en0.garlic.com (bulb-en0.garlic.com [208.195.160.144]); p for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:47:05 -0500 (en;peReceived-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:47:05 -0500 Received: from garlic.com (aa4re-4 by bulb-en0.garlic.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e2U0l3H20810 forMessage-ID: <38E2A3EB.21470742@garlic.com> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:46:35 -0800 From: Garlic <garlic@garlic.c;X-X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net" <cisco-ns;ckContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [nsp] Access list speed

);ablist for packet filtering on a

Roy

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Say, I just got another PA-MC-T3 and it says:

CT3 H/W Version : 1.0.1, CT3 ROM Version :

while one I got last May says:

CT3 H/W Version : 1.0.1, CT3 ROM Ver

Note th;W

a) Should I be concerned? b) Is there any way I get the 2.3.0 up to 2.4.0 firmware?

Thanks, -mark

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I think the story is that they're both encoded ; tstructure when all is said and done...

George

> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:46:35 -0800 > From: Garlic ;li> To: "cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net" <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> > Subject: [nsp] Access list speed > > Probab; d> > Is a standard access list any faster or slower than an extended access > list for packet filtering on a > Roy

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On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Garlic wrote:

> Probably a d> Is a standard access list; f> list for packet filtering on an interface? Faster be definition, but on such tin;acin real life... Btw, extended access list, which compares addresses only (without ports), is ;ny

Ignore the difference, it will not bring you any real profit ;)

>

---;--Basil (Vasily) Dolmatov CCIE #5347, CCNP-Security, CCDA East Connection(;, Received: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15228 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200003301550.KAA15228@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07628; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:50:19 -0500 (envelope-fr;isDate: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:50:19 -0500 X-From_: ducktape@puck.nether.net Thu Mar 30 04:50:;00 popper2.pbi.net (popper2.pbi.net [206.13.1.17]) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3;th for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:50:18 -0500 (envelope-from ducktape@puck.nether.; RReceived: from - (ppp-216-101-156-133.dialup.snrf01.pacbell.net) by popper2;.n with ESMTP id <0FS80098BBB03W@popper2.pbi.net> for cisco-nsp@p;ne Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:49:51 -0800 (PST) Old-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:55:41 -0800 From: ducktape@puck.nether.net ;ndTo: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-id: <4.2.2.20000330015301.00a24270@puck.nether.net> MIM;rsX-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-D;osX-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@puck.nether.net Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:5; -ReSent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [nsp] 6400 bug?

Anyone experiencing the 6400 NOT dropping the customer;C disconnect when configed for PPPoA?

-bob

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From cle@cisco.com ;MaReceived: from someone claiming to be mail1.cisco.com (mail1.cisco.com [171.68.225.60]) by puck.neth;et for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:26:02 -0500 (envelope-from cl;scReceived-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:26:02 -0500 Received: from cle-pc (dhcp-171-71-3-158.cisco.com [171.71.3.158]) b;ilMessage-Id:;1.X-Sender: cle@sj-email X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 30 ;20To: Garlic <garlic@garlic.com>, "cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net" <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> From: Ch;LeSubject: Re: [nsp] Access list speed In-Reply-To: <38E2A3EB.21470742@garlic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Conten;pe

If your standard ACL has 32-bit IP address specified, then it will be put in a hash so I;il

For extended ACL, IOS will have to check the entries seq;ia

Chris

At 04:46 PM 3/29/00 -;, >Probably a dumb question. > >Is a standard access list any faster or slower than an extended access >list f;ac> >Roy > >

From fhege@sover.net;u Received: from someone claiming to be marble.sover.net (fhege@marble.sover.net [209.198.87.131]) b;ck for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:45:31 -0500 (envel;frReceived-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:45:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (fhege@localhost) by marble.s;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:45:30 -0500 (EST) Comments: ;rN localhost from fhege@localhost 0 Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:45:30 -0500 (EST) X-Authentic;n-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:45:30 -0500 (EST) From:To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.1000330105144MIME-Version:; CSubject: [nsp] 802.1q VLANS & 7200 FE Lockup.

I tried to move a customer that ;ava vlan to save of router port space this morning. I am using a pair of 3com switches.;lo

---------- | 7200 | ---------- | 100Mb VLAN 1 defualt, VLAN 2 802.1q -------------- | 100Mb 3com VLT (All VLANS) ------------- | SSII 3000 | ----------- ------------ | customer | ------------

I installed a sub interface as fe0/0.2 with enca;t1as the default. Once setup it worked fine for a while but then fe0/0 locked up and wouldn't pass any pa;s.but the cisco wouldn't communicate with the lan. The interface was up and protocol was u;Th

Any ideas on what happend?

Thanks,

-Dale

From niels@euro.net ; MReceived: from someone claiming to be venus.euro.net (venus.euro.net [194.134.0.9]) by puck.nether.;(8 Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:58:14 -0500 (envelope-from niels@euro.net) Received-Date: Fri, 3;r Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by venus.euro.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA05836; Sa; ADate: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 00:58:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: Niels Bakker <niels@euro.net> To: du;pecc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] 6400 bug? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000330015301.00a24270@pu;etMessage-ID: <1000401005658.12457L-100000@venus.euro.net> X-NCC-RegID: nl.euronet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: ;/P

ducktape@puck.nether.net wrote:

> Anyone experiencing the 6400 NOT dropping the customers PVC ses; o> diSconnect when configed for PPPoA?

Lots of customers of the local telco (ex-)monopoly's current ADSL trial (KPN MxS);m)

From spork@inch.com ; MReceived: from someone claiming to be arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by puck.nethe;t for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:22:19 -0500 (envelope-from spo;ncReceived-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:22:19 -0500 Received: from shell.inch.com (inch.com [207.240.140.100] (may be fo;)) for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 31 Mar 20;0:Received: from localhost by shell.inch.com (8.8.8) id UAA23146; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:22:18 -0500 (EST) Da;FrFrom: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <Pi;SFMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [ns;RB

Hello all,

Any new developments in 12.1 for those of us looking to aggregate large numbers of bridged ;su

What's the practical limit on a 72xx series router? We've passed 300 bridged customers and we're growing rapi;..finding the limit on the number of (sub)interfaces under the 12.x software through CCO...

Thanks ;an

Charles

| Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel | INCH System Administration Team | (212);52| sPork@inch.com | access@inch.com

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The 6400 can aggregate thousands of bridged users with RBE. RSMs c;itat doing small 'point-to-point' bridge groups;m LANE card can terminate 2000 PVCs and map them into up to 1000 VLANs on a 5500. I don't think a si; Rlimit is prolly 300 or so.

7200 should be able to do the same as the 6400, s;PP

regards, -/chris

> -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Sprickman [mailto:spork@inch.com] > Sent: Fr;, > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: [nsp] IRB, DSL and Friends > > > Hello all, > > Any n;ev> aggregate large > numbers of bridged DSL subscribers? > > What's the prac;l > bridged customers and we're growing rapidly... I've also had trouble >;di> software through CCO... > > Thanks for any pointers, > > ;le> \ Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel > | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 > |;rk>

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> From: "Martin, Christ; <> To: "'Charles Sprickman'" <spork@inch.com>, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: RE: [nsp] I;DS> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:42:10 -0500 > Resent-From: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > X-Mailing-List: <cisco-ns;ck> X-Loop: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: cisco-nsp-request;k.> > The 6400 can aggregate thousands of bridged users with RBE. RSMs can with > IRB as well. This is assumin;e > at doing small 'point-to-point' bridge groups, I'm not sure, but I know a > LANE;d > 5500. I don't think a single RSM can do 1000 VLAN inter;s,> limit is prolly 300 or so. > > 7200 should be able to do the same as the 6400, sans PPPoE and SSG. > > r;ds

PPPoE for 7200/7500 is supposedly in 12.1T though I haven't had a chance to play with it yet.

George )From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA09850 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004030014.UAA09850@puck.nether.net>;ei by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06372; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:12:39 -0500 (envelope-from;coDate: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:12:39 -0500 X-From_: owner-cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sat Apr 1 08;39REceived: from someone claiming to be hq.oh.verio.net (hq.oh.verio.net [209.57.200.33]) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3;.3 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:12:38 -0500 (envelope-from owner-cisco-nsp@;.nReceived-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:12:38 -0500 Received: from vision.tigerteam.net (qmailr@vision.tigerteam.net ;.1 by hq.oh.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA11634 for <cisco-nsp@iagnet.net>; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:12:33 ;0 REceived: (qmail 24348 invoked by uid 201); 1 Apr 2000 13:12:32 -0000 Received: from vision.tigerteam.net (andy@207.;21 Old-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 07:12:32 -0600 (CST) From: ; WX-Sender: andy@vision.mtco.com To: cisco-nsp@iagnet.net Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.000401070757;32MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept lis;DiX-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@puck.nether.net Resent-Date: Sun,;prResent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [nsp] IBGP fun...

Just curios about some of the issue;ator so Cisco 75xx at pops on a major providers backbone and then running IBGP with a single;anothers also at each point. What is a safe number of peers for fully meshing like;s?cut down on the size? How many routers in a confederation would w;befor the time.

andy

From hank@att.net.il;n Received: from someone claiming to be MaX.ibm.net.il (MaX.IbM.NeT.iL [192.115.72.170]) by puck.net;ne for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 01:07:37 -0400 (envelope-from ha;ttReceived-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 01:07:37 -0400 Received: from docking (hank.tlv.ibm.net.il [192.115.72.7]) by MaX;.n Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:07:30 +0300 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000403070703.0080e8d0@m;bmX-Sender: hank@max.ibm.net.il X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 07:;3 TO: Garlic <garlic@garlic.com>, "cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net" <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> From: Hank Nussbache;anSubject: Re: [nsp] Access list speed In-Reply-To: <38E2A3EB.21470742@garlic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-T; t

At 16:46 29/03/00 -0800, Garlic wrote:

For that matter, does anyone know the Cisco URL tha;taCPU by various acl sizes? I heard Cisco tried to bury it.

Thanks, Hank

>Probably a dumb question. > >; s>list for packet filtering on an interface? > >Roy > >

From owner-cisco-nsp;k.Received: from someone claiming to be hq.oh.verio.net (hq.oh.verio.net [209.57.200.; for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 03:11:01 -0400 ;elReceived-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 03:11:01 -0400 Received: from shandakor.tharsis.c;ID by hq.oh.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09319 for <cisco-nsp@ia;.nReceived: (from grr@localhost) by shandakor.tharsis.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) id DAA2547;onDate: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 03:10:48 -0400 (EDT) From: George Robbins <grr@shandakor.tharsis.c;MeTo: andy@tigerteam.net, cisco-nsp@iagnet.net Subject: Re: [nsp] IB;un

> From: Andy Walden <andy@tigerteam.net> > X-Sender: andy@vision.mtco.com > To: cisco-nsp@iagnet.net  > Just curios about some of the issues that could arise through putt> IBGP with a single AS and BGP with the provider and probably some > others also at each p;. > meshing like this? Would confederations or route reflectors work better to > cu;wn> best? What else needs to be considered in a for the time. > > andy

I think this is one of those questions that try paraphrase ;thprovides a fairly uniform, reliable mesh, then iBGP can be an effecti;olit would be if you're taking some approximatino of "f;roprovider at each point.

The route-reflector approach lets you centralize the work and keep the number of s;onnetwork is non-uniform, with some high capacity links and clustering;nothe clusters and better connections between them.

Anyw; Bassam Halabi Cisco Press ISBN 1-56205-652-2

It's the BGP bible, so don't l; hyou the answer, it'll at least provide the starting point for the arguments...

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Except confederation;lsat next NANOG) have historically had fewer bugs (at least in recent years),; adon't (as George alludes to).

FYI,

Avi

> I think this);on> prOvides a fairly uniform, reliable mesh, then iBGP can be an effective > solution. While 35 sessions isn't a big nu; i> it would be if you're taking some approximatino of "full routes" from the > provider at each poin; > number of sessions on the client routers managa; > network is non-uniform, with some high capacity links and clustering of > nodes, then the confederatio;pr> the clusters and better connections between them. > > Anyway: > > Internet Rout;Ar> Bassam Halabi > Cisco Press > ISBN 1-56205-652-2 > > It's the BGP bible, so don't leave home wi;t > you the answer, it'll at least provide the starting point for the arguments... > > George >

From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA26856 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004031318.JAA26856@puck.nether.net>;ei by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19825; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 02:26:36 -0400 (envelope-from;coDate: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 02:26:36 -0400 X-From_: ams@vicnet.net.au Mon Apr 3 02:26:36 2000 Re;ed viper.vicnet.net.au (postfix@viper.vicnet.net.au [203.10.72.231]) by puck.nether.net (8.9;.9 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 02:26:33 -0400 (envelope-from ams@vicnet.net; RReceived: by viper.vicnet.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0F5FD31814; ; Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by viper.vicnet.net.au (Postfix) with ES; iOld-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:26:26 +1000 (EST) From: Alan Sawyer <ams@;etTo: Hank Nussbacher <hank@att.net.il> Cc: Garlic <garlic@garlic.com>, "cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net" <cisco-;puSubject: Re: [nsp] Access list speed In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000403070703.0080e8d0@max.ibmMessageMIME-Version: 1Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 ;8:Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

I don't know if there is a link off CCO but if you email phillip harris (ph;s@puck.nether.net a link off point you to a list that correlates switching paths/max pps; swould give you a general idea of the effects anyway. I don't have it on hand.

-- Alan Sawyer Network Operation;giVICNET - 328 Swanston St, Melbourne, Victoria, 3000. Ph - +61 3 9669 9710 Fax - +61 3 9669 9805

On Mo; A

> At 16:46 29/03/00 -0800, Garlic wrote: > > For that matter, does anyone know the Cisco; t> CPU by various acl sizes? I heard Cisco tried to bury it. > > Thanks, > Hank > > >Probably ;mb> > > >Is a standard access list any faster or slower than an extended access > >list for packet filtering on a > > >Roy > > > > > >

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Has anyon;en4 ports of IMA? Oh yeah, it has to be about 2 RU high and b; pWhile I'm at it, it needs to slice bagels, cook my steaks in 5 minutes while reducing the fat by 7%, and put a lus;s seats.

If anyone has seen such a creature, or better yet has used one, please let me know. T;ox

Thanks in advance,

David Curran North State Telephone Company dcurran(at));hs

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On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Avi Freedman wrote:

> > Except confederations (also covered by Halabi, and I think by ;to> At next NANOG) have historically had fewer bugs (at least in recent years), > and allow you to do types of traffic ;ne> don't (as George alludes to). > > FYI, > > Avi

Avi, did you ever complete your work on tr;c you alluded to at the montreal nanog (nanog 17) BOF. thanks

/vijay

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Yep...

There should;a from Williams, with theory and examples.

Avi

> > On Mon, 3 Apr 2000;i > > > > > Except confederations (also covered by Halabi, and I think by a tutorial > > at next NANOG) ha;is> > and allow you to do types of traffic engineering that route-refle;s > > > > FYI, > > > > Avi > > Avi, did you ever complete your work on traffic engineer;us> you alluded to at the montreal nanog (nanog 17) BOF. > thanks > > /vijay >

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Has anyone ver seen this?;ipRepeat count [5]: Datagram size [100]: 2000 Timeout in seconds [2]: Extended co;dsSource address or interface: Type of service [0]: Set DF bit in IP header? [no]: y Validate reply DataLoose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]: Sweep range of sSen; 5MMMMM Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)

MMMMM?

TIA, -/chris

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> Sending 5, 2000-byte ICM;ho> 2 seconds: > MMMMM > Success rate is 0 percent (0/5) > > MMMMM?

"Could not fragment" ;ri---- ---------------------------- Erik Lawaetz Danish Broadcasting http://www.dr.dk/

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I believe it is unreachable type code 4, which should be Fragmentation needed ;DFdebug ip icmp.

-Scott

On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Martin, Christia;ot

> HAs anyone ver seen this? > > p ip > Target IP address: www.fredericksburg.com > Repeat count [5]: > Datagram size ;]:>> Extended commands [n]: y > Source address or interface: > Type of service [0]: > Set DF ;in> Validate reply data? [no]: > Data pattern [0xABCD]: > Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none; S> Type escape sequence to abort. > Sending 5, 2000-byte ICMP Echoes to 209.97.59.111, timeout is ;co> MMMMM > Success rate is 0 percent (0/5) > > MMMMM? > > TIA, > -/chris > > > >

-- Scott Whyte swhyte@cis;omNetwork Supported Accounts (NSA) | to prove anything, Kent. 14 percent of CCIE ;

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I gathered that from my debugs and what I was tr; taback... ;)

Thanks for all the replies!

./~chris

>-----Original Message----- >From: Scott Whyte;il>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 4:23 PM >To: Martin, Christian >Cc: 'cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net' >Subjec;e:> > >I believe it is unreachable type code 4, which should be Fragmentation >needed and DF bit set. Try t;ng>the ping, or >debug ip icmp. > >-Scott > > >On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Martin, Christian wrote: > >> ;an>> >> p ip >> Target IP address: www.fredericksburg.com >> Repeat count [5]: >> Datagram size [100]: ; >>> Extended commands [n]: y >> Source address or interface: >> Type of service [0]: >> Set DF bi; I>> Validate reply data? [no]: >> Data pattern [0xABCD]: >> Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[non;>>>> Type escape sequence to abort. >> Sending 5, 2000-byte ICMP Echoes to 209.97.59.111, timeout;s >> MMMMM >> Success rate is 0 percent (0/5) >> >> MMMMM? >> >> TIA, >> -/chris >> >> >> >> > >-- >Scott ;e >statistics >Network Supported Accounts (NSA) | to prove anything, Ken; >>CCIE 3340 | all people know that." >-H. Simpson >

From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24265 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004040617.CAA24265@puck.nether.net>;ei by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23059; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:17:11 -0400 (envelope-from;coDate: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:17:11 -0400 X-From_: muthukrishnan.p@datacraft-asia.com Tue Apr 4;17Received: from someone claiming to be md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by puck.nether.net (8.9.;9. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:17:05 -0400 (envelope-from muthukrishnan.p;acReceived-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:17:05 -0400 Received: from pdc.datacraft-asia.com ([203.197.132.52]) by ;vs for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:53:39 +0530 (IST) Recei; fMessage-ID: <38E97906.9A8F45F7@datacraft-asia.com> Old-Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:39:26 +05;roX-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Ver;: To: "kumaravelu.k@datacraft-asia.com" <kumaravelu.k@datacraft-asia.com>, "v;mu Mulugu Srinivasarao <smulugu@cisco.com> CC: "tomy.tho;daSubject: PIX - Claririfcation - Urgent Content-Type: text/plain; charse;-aCoNtent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@puck;heREsent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 02:17:51 -0400 Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Hi ,

We need a clarification on ;- Network Interface cards that are supported in PIX - 520 firewall.

Can you please treat t;as

Regards --

Regards, P. Muthukrishnan Network Specialist Datacraft RPG Chennai

Tel : 044 - 8290496 044 - 829F

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On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, MuthuKrishnan wrote:

> > Hi , > > We need a cla;ca> Network Interface cards that are supported in PIX - 520 firewall. > > Ca;u Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100 - works fine in PIX 520.

> > Regards > -- > > > Regards, > P;th> Network Specialist > Datacraft RPG > Chennai > > > Tel : 044 - 8290496 > 044 - 8292496 > Fax : 044 - 82202; Basil (Vasily) Dolmatov CCIE #5347, CCNP-Security, CCDA East ;ec

From hcb@clark.net ;ApReceived: from someone claiming to be jake.cais.net (jake.cais.net [205.252.14.6]) by puck.nether.ne;.9 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:36:51 -0400 (envelope-from hcb@clar;t)Received: from [63.216.127.98] (63-216-127-98.sdsl.cais.net [63.216.127.98]; id JAA27328 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:36:46 -0;(EMimE-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: hcb@mail.clark.net Message-Id: <v04220824b50f9fce8bbd@[63.216.127.98]> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 20);9:ToContent-Type: text/plain; charset="u;ciSubject: [nsp] IS-IS over IP?

Is anyone running IS-IS over IPv4, rather than a data link protocol, ;romedium dependency problems?

Thanks.

Howard

From jesper@skriver.;TuReceived: from someone claiming to be freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:42:29 -0400 (envelope;m Received-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:42:29 -0400 Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001;d Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:42:26 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver <jesper@skrive;> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] IS-IS over IP? Message-ID: <200;41References: <v04220824b50f9fce8bbd@[63.216.127.98]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; c;etX-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <v04220824b50f9fce8bbd@[63.216.127.98]>; from hcb@clark.net on Tue, Apr 04, 2;at

On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 09:35:30AM -0400, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > Is anyone running IS-IS over IPv;at> in production? If so, does it appear to solve the jumbo LSP and > medium dependency pro;s?question ?

/Jesper

-- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at);veWork: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: Geek @ AS2109 (A;h

One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to binFrom danny@sofos.tcb; Received: from someone claiming to be tcb.net (tcb.net [205.168.100.1]) by puck.nether.net (8.;8. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:09:14 -0400 (envelope-from danny@sofos.t;etReceived: from sofos.tcb.net (sofos.tcb.net [127.0.0.1]) by tcb.net (8.9.;9. Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:03:13 -0600 Message-Id: <200004041503.JAA03274@tcb.net> To: Jesper Skriver ;pecc: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@clark.net>, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net From: Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> R;-TSubject: Re: [nsp] IS-IS over IP? Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:03:13 -0600 Sender: danny@sofos.tcb.net

Th);ISrequirement for the OSI CLNP support, and the need for m;ef"ISIS over [something] over ATM" so that AAL5 SNAP could be replaced with AAL5 MUX or the like to alleviate over; ridentifier.

However, workarounds have been provided for the ATM overhead issue and the "ISIS ove;v4an academic exercise.

A few good things did come out of the WG, how;.

http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/isis-charter.html

for current working group information.

-danny

> ISIS is a ro;g > question ? > > /Jesper > > -- > Jesper Skriver, je> Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks> > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, > One IP to bring them all and in the zone to b>

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Hey!

So, I've got a bunch of ACLs that have logging tu; oa bunch of lines like this:

access-list 100 deny ip 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log

This works great, of cours;nd

Apr 4 23:15:19: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list 100 denied tcp 10.1.7.42(0) -> 209.18 2.;yy

My question is this: how can I get this to log the tcp/udp port number as well as the addresses? Accordin; t"if appropriate", whatever that may mean. (Of course, it would be nice if my upstreams ;d

Many thanks!

-David

-- David Williamson | "Experience ;haGNAC, Inc. | when you don't get what you davidw@gnac.com | want

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> From: David Williamson <davidw@gnac.com> > To: cisco-nsp@;.n> Subject: [nsp] ACL logging > > Hey! > > So, I've got a bunch of ACLs that have logging turned on. It's > a ;h > > access-list 100 deny ip 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log > > This works great, of course, and it;ts> > Apr 4 23:15:19: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list 100 denied tcp 10.1.7.42(0) -> 209.18 > 2.xxx;(0> > My question is this: how can I get this to log the tcp/udp port number as > well as the addresses? Accor; t> "if appropriate", whatever that may mean. (Of course, it would be nice > if my ups;ms

If you really care:

access-list 100 deny tcp 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.25;y accEss-list 100 deny udp 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log access-list 100 deny icmp 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log a;s-

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From ehmeier@faui40.;rmReceived: from someone claiming to be faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (;@f by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA29600 for <cisco-nsp;k. (envelope-from ehmeier@faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) Received-Date: Wed,;prReceived: from faui46e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui46e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.89];y Rece;: by faui46e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (8.9.1/8.1.75-FAU) id JAA23103; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:34:53 +); (Date:To: George Robbin;rrCc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net, davidw@gnac.com Subject: Re: [nsp] ACL logging Message-ID: <2000040;45References: <200004050106.VAA04973@shandakor.tharsis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Con;-TIn-Reply-To: <200004050106.VAA04973@shandakor.tharsis.com>; from grr@shandakor.tharsis.c;n

On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 09:06:54PM -0400, George Robbins wrote: > > From: David Wil;so> > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > > Subject: [nsp] ACL logging > > > > Hey! > > > > So, I've got a;ch> > a bunch of lines like this: > > > > access-list 100 deny ip 10.0.0.0 0.;25> > > > This works great, of course, and it spits out log messages like this: > > > > Apr 4 23:15:19: %SE;IP> > 2.xxx.yyy(0), 1 packet > > > > My question is this: how can I ;th> > well as the addresses? According to the docs, those numbers are logged > > "if a;pr> > if my upstreams would filter this crap ou>  If you really care: > > access-list 100 deny tcp 10.0.0.0 0.255.25> access-list 100 deny icmp 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log > access-list 100 deny ip 10.0.0.0 ;5.

If the zero port log entries still remain, you may be hit by a bug that I sus- pect at least in IOS 11.3 ;iohave no port number info) opposed to what is written in the manuals.

So t; l

Erich

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On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 09:34:53AM +0200, Erich Meier wr; >> pect at least in IOS 11.3 versions. T); I> > So these ;en

Hmm. Interesting note: I do have an inbound access list, and there is NO e; tentries about these packets being denied. I've added ;y eq 0" (all these were tcp, nothing else) and, obviously, log entries did stop to appear. My worry is: wha;s *nothing* that may have possibly matched these packets.. I'm running 12.0(4)T IP-PL;n

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> On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 09:34:53AM +0200, Erich Meier wrote: > > > > If the zero;t > > pect at least in IOS 11.3 versions. These IOS do also bl;IP> > have no port number info) opposed to what is written in the manuals. > > > > So these log entries c; a> > Hmm. Interesting note: I do have an inbound access list, and there is NO > entry th;en> entries about these packets being denied. I've added "deny; a> eq 0" (all these were tcp, nothing else) and, obviously, log entries did stop > to appear. My worry is: what; d> *nothing* that may have possibly matched these packets.. I'm running 12.0(4)T > IP;S Logging with zero port number does not mean "0" in port nu; fmost cases. If ACL has no comparisons with port numbers of packets, then code, extracting port numbers from packe;adand all packets logged with this ACL will have port number "0".

If any rule in ACL contains;t extracted from packet headers and will be logged correctly with port information.

So, if ;ha

deny ip any any log

and wonders about (0) in logged entries then one can rewrite ACL as

deny tcp any any;te deny ip any any log

(this ACL does _exactly_ the same operation as previous one in terms of packet filtering)

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On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 03:39:09PM +0400, Basil Dolmatov wrote:

> Logging with zero port num;do> most cases. If ACL has no comparisons with port numbers of packets, then > code;tr> and all packets logged with this ACL will have port nu); ">  If an> extracted from packet headers and will be logg;or> information.

Yep. There are plenty rules with port numbers in the ACL in question.

> So, if one have ;li> >

Nope, I don't have this. ACL is terminated with:

permit ip any any

Now, as I said, I've ;

in the midst of the ACL, and now I do enjoy the absence of these tcp:0->tcp:0 entries, thou;y

"Is *it* an IOS bug? If it is, how bad is it?" (where "it" is being define; "*deny* conditions and the presence of the condition;t *and* logged").

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At 09:06 PM 4/4/00 -04;Ge>> From: David Williamson <davidw@gnac.com> >> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net >> Subjec>>> HEy! >> >> So, I've got a bunch of ACLs that have logging turned on. I>> >> ac;-l>> >> This works great, of course, and it spits out log messages like th;>>-> 209.18 >> 2.xxx.yyy(0), 1 packet >> >> My ;ti>> well as the addresses? According to the docs, those n;rs>> "if appropriate", whatever that may mean. (Of course, it would be nice >> if my upstreams would filter thi;ap> >If you really care: > >access-list 100 deny tcp 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log >access-l;10>access-list 100 deny icmp 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log >access-list 100 d; >

Even in the more recent IOS versions {12.0(9.6)S1 for example} , I still receive sou*;anto gEt the actual source and destination port numbers to be logged with the 'log' option is to make the extended ip acc;linumbers. So this is what I've always used when looking for port numbers...

access-list 100 deny tc;.0access-list 100 deny udp 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any gt 0 log access-list 100 deny icmp;0.access-list 100 deny ip 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log

Jamie Byrne

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Hello I need a ;plAssume using only 1 routing protocol no access-list that prevent from reaching IP.

why;g

I guess what I really want to know is how ping works and how traceroute works.

TIA,

Tatsuya

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At Thursday 08:56 AM 4/6/00;at>Hello >I need a exmaple of why it could possibly happen. >Assume using only 1 routing protocol no ac;-l>reaching IP. > >why ping works but not traceroute? > >I guess what I really want to know is how pin;rk>works. > >TIA, > >Tatsuya

I don't know what exactly you are filtering, but a quick workout with a s;erthere is 'man' :

From the traceroute man page: -p Set;e (default is 33434). [..]

From the ping man page: -v ;os other than ECHO_RESPONSE that are received. [...]

W;wsstandard NAT boxes, and probably breaks in a couple other situa;s:even start.

bye,Kai

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Hi,

I=B4ve expirienced some problems with a con;onthat=B4s the last one implemented by the Cisco code. The very curious fact is that = it worked fine fo;lothe problem I could see that everthing was working fine with frame-rel;I incremented, but the IP didn=B4t work. I made a parallel ;ecaddressing, and it worked. Then I moved the original addressing to the workin;CIDLCI 1007.=20

I would like to monitor the traffic in an ATM ;ciMIB=B4s, but I could see that the Cisco code doesn=B4t generate a MIB variable (interface) for each PVC; ointerface ATM, ignoring the subinterfaces (PVC=B4s).

Does anyone know something about ;re

Thanks, --

Rodrigo Loureiro

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> I would like to monitor the traffic in an A;vc> using SNMP MIB=B4s, but I could see that the Cisco code doesn=B4t = generate a MIB variable > the interface ATM, ignoring the su

If you're using IOS*;1,into this code (hence th;at

Bug Id : CSCdk18481=20 Headline ifSpeed for ATM subinterfaces is wrong =09 Product all Model =09 Component s;DuSeverity 4 Status C =09 Version Found 11.1CC Fixed-in Version =09 Release Notes The ifSpeed on ATM s;tecorrectly. * The support for ATM subinterfaces has been added in 12.0(5)S*=09

IOS 12.0(8)S work;ll

Phil Sykes, Network Engineer Cable & Wireless Europe p: +49 89 92699 204 m: +49 172 89;72From mfcho@hknet.com;i Received: from someone claiming to be emethist.hknet.com (emethist.hknet.com [202.67.240.233]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:51:33 -0400 (envelope;m Received-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:51:33 -0400 Received: from intranet.hknet.com (intranet By emethist.hknet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA25774 for <cisco-Received: from localhost (mfcho@localhost) by intranet.hknet.com with ESMTP id e37BpU407348 for <cisco-nsp@puc;thX-Authentication-Warning: intranet.hknet.com: mfcho owned process doing -bs ;: From: Cho Man Fai <mfcho@hknet.com> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <Pine.B*;.2Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [nsp*;S

A12.;T?but T does. Where may I find the features supported by each;?!

Rgds, Kenneth Cho

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> A short and quick questi;. > 12.0(5)T?! I want to do irb and found tha;st> but T does. Where may I find the features supported by each IOS?!

Find the Cisco IOS roadmap a*;tphttp://www.cisco.com/warp/publ;20gives more or less the full scoop on version numbering.

Ihth.

Mike Norris

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Hi all, ;onstability of the code? I know that the use of a Link-state;tiMPLS Traffic Engineering. Is it also a requirement if I just want to use MPLS VPNs?

____;__Joao Fonseca Ribeiro

TAC Support, GNS IB SIEMENS SA, Information & Communication Networ

From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30801 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004071310.JAA30801@puck.nether.net>;ei by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23407; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:35:38 -0400 (envelope-from;coDate: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:35:38 -0400 X-From_: bradley@dunn.org Fri Apr 7 02:35:38 2000 Rec;d: gould.dunn.org (gould.dunn.org [216.254.16.152]) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESM;d for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:35:37 -0400 (envelope-from bradley@dunn.org) Received-Date:;, Received: from bradley (helo=localhost) by gould.dunn.org with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 1*;i- forOld-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:35:36 -0700 (PDT) F; BTo: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004062330160.155-100000@gould.dun;g>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: cisco-ns;seResent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:10:15 -0400 Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [; M

Anyone know when/if MBGP will be supported on the Catalyst 6000 series?

It doesn't appear to be in 1;1)MBGP as a new feature.

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On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Bradley Dunn wrote:

> Anyone know when/if ; w> > It doesn't appear to be in 12.1(1)E, even though the docs for 12.1 list;BG

I think the considered opinion from Cisco is "Why? That's a closet switch."

I have heard similar ple;p know if this has changed for 12.1 though.

wfms

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hi, secure shell version 1 ;ini m running 12.0(9)S, assuming secure shell is part of it but it is not. what version of IOS;ul

>>> "crypto key generate rsa", crypto command is not there. lab(config)#crypt; % Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

lab(config)# <<<

thank you in advance.

-tishi

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Tishi,

> i m running 12.0(9)S, assuming ;re

There are 2 crypto images as well as the normal images. The crypto ones have filename;ke gsR-k4p-mz.120-9.S

-- Alex Bligh VP Core Network, Concentric Network Corporation (formerly GX Networks, Xara Networks)

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I would think that there would be, what with the FlexWAN modules being released. The MSFC may not, ;th

./chris

>-----Original Message----- >From: William F. Maton [mailto:wmaton@ryouko.dgim.crc.ca] >Sen;ri>To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net >Subject: Re: [nsp] MBGP for 6000 series > > >On Fri, 7 Apr 200;ra> >> Anyone know when/if MBGP will be supported on the Catalyst >6000 series? >> >> It doesn't appear t*; i> >I think the considered opinion from Cisco is;y?>closet switch." > >I have heard similar pleas up here in Canada for it (and >BGP4). I don't >know if this ha;an> >wfms >

From asr@latency.net;i Received: from someone claiming to be latency.net (IDENT:qmailr@pimpbox.latency.net [209.123.200.18;by for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:53:14 -0400 (en;peReceived-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:53:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 14247 invoked by uid 500); 7 Apr 200;:5Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:52:27 -0400 From: Adam Rothschild <asr@latency.net> To: tishi@ziplink.net Cc: cisco-ns;ckSubject: Re: Secure Shell Version 1 Message-ID: <20000407115227.A14068@pimpbox.latency.net> References: <Pine.;4.Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disp;ioUser-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10004071033010.8999-100000@tiger.ziplink.net>; from tishi@zi;k.

On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 10:45:17AM -0400, tishi@ziplink.net wrote: > hi, sec;sh> i m running 12.0(9)S, assuming secure shell is part of it but it is no; w

Works for me under 12.0(8)S just fine. I'm pretty su;hiin the k3p/k4p releases of 12.0(9)S as well.

-adam

From rodrigo.loureir;tsReceived: from someone claiming to be nsrjo4.netstream.com.br ([200.244.82.19]) ;uc for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:45:50 -0400 (envel;frReceived-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:45:50 -0400 Received: by nsrjo4 with Internet Mail;vi id <G7GPRTLP>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:39:50 -0300 Message-ID: <F12A0EB611C0D21193BB00105A18482529B3DD@nsrjo4>;m:To: "'cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net'" <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> Dat;riMIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; cha;="Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [nsp] RES: [nsp] DLCI 1007 and Cisco MIB

I run a program*;t P;20--

Rodrigo Loureiro Netstream Telecom (AT&T)

-----Mensagem original----- De: Sykes, Phil [mailto:Phil.Syk;weEnviada em: Sexta-feira, 7 de Abril de 2000 06:35 Para: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Assunto: RE: [nsp] DLCI 1007 *;Ci

> I > using SNMP MIB=B4s, but I could see that the Ci;cogenerate a MIB variable > (interface) for each PVC. It only generates a variable for=20 > the interface ATM;no

If you're using IOS 11.1, you're out of luck here. I don't think Cisco have any plans;adinto this code (hence the status C).

Bug Id : CSCdk18481=20 Headline ifSpeed for ATM subi;faProduct all Model =09 Component snmp Duplicate of =20 Severity 4 Status C =09 Version Found 11.; FRelease Notes The ifSpeed on ATM subinterfaces is not reported = correctly. * The support for ATM sub;rf

IOS 12.0(8)S works well for us to collect PVC statistics.

Phil Sykes, Network Engin;Cap: +49 89 92699 204 m: +49 172 89 79 727

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Hi Folks

We are using some Cisco routers in our lab for experiments.

Do the TOS/;edpacket to the outer when an IP packet is encapsulated during IPSec tunneling ?

If ; wspecific ?

If no, can someone point me in the right direction about wh;ot

Please respond directly to me since I am not yet a member of this list.

Thanks. Raje; -RajeSh R. Talpade rrt@research.telcordia.com 973 829-4261 Telcordia Technologies (formerly Bellcore)

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Per users request, they would ; tPIX box. I have the release notes for 5.1 but the configuration guide is extremely ;teor suggestions on how to configure the pix box. Iplent

T;Jo

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That's weird. IRB is not in the 7500 12;impain becuase you have to run some bloated 12.0T image with a ton of features/bugs which we don't ne;orfeature 8-)

I've never been able to find anything definitive on the various feature charts; da way of checking inlucded features.

George

> From cis+;sp> Received-Date: Fri, 7 Ap;00> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 16:54:35 MET-DST > From: "Christian Panigl, ACOnet/VIX/UniVie" <panigl@cc.univie.;t>> CC: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net, panigl@cc.univie.ac.at > Subject: RE: [nsp] IOS > Resent-From: cis;sp> X-Mailing-List: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> archive/latest/2558 > X-Loop: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > P;de> Resent-Sender: cisco-nsp-request@puck.nether.net > > Hm, dunno about 12.0(5)S/T but we have "bridge irb";fi> 12.0(7)S on a Cisco7200: > > IOS (tm) 7200 Software (C7200-P-M), Version 12.0(7)S, EARLY DEPLOYMENT ;AS> bridge irb > ... > > Or what's your specific problem ? > > Kind regards > CP > >

From ras@poppa.thick; Received: from someone claiming to be poppa.thick.net (IDENT:root@poppa.thick.net [209.61.9.10];y for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:39:14 -0400 (en;peReceived-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:39:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by popp;ic for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:39:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 A;00From: Rich Sena <ras@poppa.thick.net> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.1000;13MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [nsp] 3640 and FE;Ag3640 router - I was trying to aggregate a couple f;rthave the commands available to me but I get an error when I add the port number saying that it is an in;d

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From spork@inch.com ; AReceived: from someone claiming to be arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [216.223.192.21] (may be forged)); p for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19:39:34 -0400 (env;e-Received-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19:39:34 -0400 Received: from shell.inch.com (inch.com [216.223.192.20;by for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19;31Received: from localhost by shell.inch.com (8.8.8) id TAA05186; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Su; AFrom: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.;.0MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [nsp] IRB o;rv

Hi,

Can anyone confirm whether IRB is available in the "S" images? I'm having some issues with the; wgave 12.0.10S a quick try. It did not complain about the bvi config or 'br; i

If it's not in there, I have to wonder why, I can't really imagine too many folks;id

Can anyone recommend a stable 12.0 release that supports the 7206 VXR and has stable irb;po

ThAnks,

Charles

| Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel | INCH System Administration Team | (212;-5| Spork@inch.com | access@inch.com

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Well, IRB is a subset of "bridging" and ;'sof worms that corporate types were more likely to need than ISP's until DSL came to town...

I'd be i;esis that on booting up a 12.0.*S image on my 7505, it bitched about all; "

George

> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19:39:30 -0400 (EDT) > From: Charles Spric+; <> Resent-From: cisco-nsp@;.n> X-Mailing-List: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> archive/latest/2568 > X-Loop: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Preceden;li> ReSent-Sender: cisco-nsp-request@puck.nether.net > > Hi, > > Can anyone confirm whether IRB is available in the "S";ge> some issues with the BVI wedging in what I'm now running (12.0.5T1), and > gave 12.0.10S a quick try. It; n> 'bridge irb', but nonetheless it did not work... > > If it's not in there, I have t;nd> many folks besides ISPs doing dsl aggregation... > > Can anyone recommend a stable 1;re> has stable irb support? > > Thanks, > > Charles > > | Charles Sprickman ; > | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 > | spork@inch.com | acc >

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It has a lot more to do with the feature set rather than the release leve;IfTAC said)

George Robbins wrote:

> Well,; i> of worms that corporate types were more likely to need than ISP';un> > I'd be interested in anything definitive on this, my recollection > is that on booting up a 12;S > all the "bridge" statements and dissapeared them. > > ; > > > Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19:39:30 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com> > > To: ci;ns> > Subject: [nsp] IRB on Service Provider images? > > Resent-From: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > > X-Mail;Li> > X-Loop: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > > Precedence: list > > Resent-;er> > > > Hi, > > > > Can anyone confirm whether IRB is available in the "S" images? I';vi> > Some issues with the BVI wedging in what I'm now running (12.0.5T1), and > > gave 12.0.10S a quick try. It did not;pl> > 'bridge irb', but nonetheless it did not work... > > > > If it's not in there, I have to w;r > > many folks besides ISPs doing dsl aggregation... > > > > Can anyone recommend a stable;0 > > has stable irb support? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Charles > > > > | Charles Spric; > > | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 > > | spork@inReceived: from someone claiming to be ns0.teliafi.net (ns0.teliafi.net [62.236.5.12]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:37:43 -0400 (envelope;m Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:37:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200004100637.CAA24632@puck.nether.ne;ec (SMTPD32-4.06) id A77222AD01EC; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:40:50 ;0 Priority: Normal To: rrt@research.telcordia.com Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailer: FTP Softw;InMIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jorma Mellin <jorma.mellin@teliafi.net> Sender: Jorma Mellin <jormContent-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCContent-Transfer-;diSubject: [nsp] [nsp] question regarding tunneling and tos bits

>Do the TOS/precedence bits get copie;om>packet to the outer when an IP packet is encapsulated during >IPSec tunneling ?

Yes it's copied. Although ;y it is copied. I checked further down the path and the packets do get the same TOS what;gi

>If yes, what is the IOS that does this ? and is it hardware >specific ?

I run it on a

IOS (tm) C1700 Software (C1700-K2SY-M), Version 12.0(5)T1, RELEASE SOCopyright (c) 1986-1999 by ci;Sy

It shouldn't be hardware depend but I haven't verified it.

Jorma

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After some help from the list I got this to work on both 12.0(5)S and 12.0(9)S.

Are you sure you have the r;4pssh encryption?

core1(config)#crypto key generate rsa ? usage-keys Generate sepe; R <cr> =20

IOS (tm) RSP Software (RSP-K4PV-M), Version 12.0(9)S, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELE;SO

Best regards, Tomas Bj=F6rklund

> -----Original Message----- > From: tishi@ziplink.net [mailto:tishi@zipli;et> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Secure Shell Version 1 >=20 >=20 >=20 > hi, se; s> i m running 12.0(9)S, assuming secure shell is part of it but=20 > it;no> whAt version of IOS should i get? do i have to run 12.0(5)S release? >=20 > >>> "crypto key generate rsa", crypto com; i> lab(config)#crypto > ^ > % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. >=20 > lab(config)# > <<< >=2;20>=20 >=20 > -tishi >=20

From spork@inch.com ; AReceived: from someone claiming to be arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [216.223.192.21] (may be forged)); p for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:08:54 -0400 (en;peReceived-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:08:54 -0400 Received: from shell.inch.com (inch.com [216.223.192.; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: ; lDate: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:08:49 -040;DTTo: George Robbins <grr@shandakor.tharsis.com> cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Su+;t:Message-ID: <Pine.BS;21MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 9 Apr 20+;Ge> is that on booting up a 12.0.*S;ge> all the "bridge" statements and dissapeared them.

I can tell you that in my case (12.0.10;thshowing "up/up", but showed no input/output, and did not seem to be part of the bridge group. Al;a subscriber subinterfaces as members of bridge-group 1. So it looks like some bridgin;nc

Has anyone else seen the bvi interface just disappear? I didn't see anything in the Bug Navigator ; sall subinterfaces were in the bridge group and were able to see broadcasts from each;erfor in/out, however, and it basically looked like the bvi left; bgRoup...

thanks,

Charles > George > > > Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19:39:30 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Charles Sp;ma> > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > > Subject: [nsp] IRB on Service Provider images? > > Resent-From: c;-n> > X-Mailing-List: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> archive/latest/2568 > > X-Loop: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.n; >> > Resent-Sender: cisco-nsp-request@puck.nether.net > > > > Hi, > > > > Can anyone confirm whether IR; a> > some issues with the BVI wedging in what I'm now running (12.0.5T1), and > > g;12> > 'bridge irb', but nonetheless it did not work... > > ; I> > many folks besides ISPs doing dsl aggregation...; > > has stable irb support? > > > > Thanks,; > > > > | Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel > > | INCH System Administration Team | (2;43 > | spork@inch.com | access@inch.com > > > > >

From niels@euro.net ; AReceived: from someone claiming to be venus.euro.net (venus.euro.net [194.134.0.9]) by puck.nether.;(8 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:25:56 -0400 (envelope-from niels;o.ReCeived-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:25:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by venus.euro.net (8.8.8/8;) for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:25:43 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 ;5:From: Niels Bakker <niels@euro.net> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: Secure Shell Version 1 I;plMessage-ID: <1000410192225.25807F-100000@venus.euro.neMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Tr

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, ;s

> Are you sure you have the rsp-k4pv-mz.120-9.S IOS image with 168 bit ssh > en;ti

I Didn't know this was available to customers outside the USA and Canada. Has this policy changed? Where can I downl; :It'dusually isn't included in standard SSH client i

-- Niels.

From fhege@sover.net;n Received: from someone claiming to be marble.sover.net (fhege@marble.sover.net [209.198.87.131]) b;ck for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:28:42 -0400 (envel;frReceived-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:28:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (fhege@localhost) by marble.s;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Comments: ;rN localhost from fhege@localhost 0 Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:28:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentic;n-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:28:37 -0400 (EDT) From:To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.1000410181641MIME-Versio;.0Subject: [nsp] iBGP

We are getting ready to add a second high speed link bet; opops and are going to be using a pair of 4700s that we had sitting around. We don't want to run bgp on them beca;webe able to handle 2 full feeds. We currently have iBGP setup talking via loopbacks over th;roof the routers not in the BGP mesh it gets stuck in a loop. This makes ;e.4700s?

Thanks,

-Dale

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MPLS, or some other tunneling protocol.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 06:28:37PM -0400, Dale Hege w;: > We> pops and are going to be using a pair of 47;th> We don't want to run bgp on them because we are worried that they will not > be able to handle;ul> loopbacks over the 2 routes available but anytime data gets passed to ;> > sense. But what is the best way to do this with o;un> 4700s? > > Thanks, > > -Dale

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From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA23901 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004102321.TAA23901@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA23884; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:21:11 -0400 (envelope-fr;isDate: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:21:11 -0400 X-From_: nkartsio@clark.fix.net Mon Apr 10 19:21:10+;0 by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8;) for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:21:09 -0400 (envelope-from nkartsio@clark.fi;t)Received: (from nkartsio@localhost) by clark.fix.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA;3;Old-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:20:46 -0700 From: Nick Kartsioukas <nkartsio@fix.net;: Subject: Re: [nsp] iBGP Message-ID: <20000410162045.A6954@clark.fix;> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.10004101816410.1983X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@puck.ne+;.nReseLt-Date

On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 06:28:37PM -;, > > We are getting ready to add a second high speed link between our 2 main > pops and are going to be u; a> We don't want to run bgp on them because we are worried that they will not > ;bl> loopbacks over the 2 routes available but anytime dat;ts> of the routers not in the BGP mesh it gets stuck in a loop. This makes > sense. But what is the best way ;o > 4700s?

We've got a pair of 4700s taking two views, they each have 64megs of RAM, and t;re

-- Nick Kartsioukas Network Operations, The FIX Network, Inc. "Worldwide Techn;y 805-781-6301

From brian@meganet.n;MoReceived: from someone claiming to be cerise.meganet.net (cerise.meganet.net [209.213.64.3]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:31:40 -0400 (envelop;omReceived-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:31:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (brian@localhost) by cerise.m;et Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:31:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: cerise.meganet.net: ;n Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:31:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Wallingford <brian@meganetX-Sender: To: Dale Hege <fhege@sover.net> cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.;41Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10004102312130.18792-100000@cerise> MIME-Version: 1.0 C+;nt: : We are getting ready to add a second high ;d : pops and are going to be using a pair of 4700s that we had sitting around. : We don't want to ru;p : be able to handle 2 full feeds. We currently have iBGP setup talking v+; l: of the routers not in the BGP mesh it gets stuc; a: sense. But what is the best way to do this with out running BGP on the : 4700s?

So, you've got a sing;hiadding another via two other routers? If I'm not misunderstanding the questio;hyoff the 4700's? Splitting traffic between routers would be an;ngopTimal.

If this is indeed the case, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to handle it with the 4700's. You'd ef;ivon each. Worst case, you may need to filter on prefix length (at your border) to shorten; tdefaults (on the 4700s) for sanity's sake.

We have used 2600's (w/64M) as t;rataking full routes via T1 or ethernet, and have found that in the last 18 months or so, pr;-l4700 probably manages memory differently, but I'd expect the same safegu; a

hth, brian

From owner-cisco-nsp;k.Received: from someone claiming to be hq.oh.verio.net (hq.oh.verio.net [209.57.200.; for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:26:38 -0400 ;veReceived-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:26:38 -0400 Received: from smtp-out.kivex.co;mt by hq.oh.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25875 for <cisco-nsp@iagnet.net>; Tue; AReceived: from kds1 (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by smtp-out.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIV;wi for <cisco-nsp@iagnet.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:21:22 -04;EDFrom Tatsuya Kawasaki <tatsuya@kivex.com> X-Sender: tatsuya@kds1 To: cisco-nsp@iagnet.net Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1+;11Subject: [nsp] HDLC error not sure+;. Illegal HD;erApr 11 08:41:47 xxxxxxx 10490: *Apr 10 23:38:43.750 CST: Illegal HDLC serial type code 69, ;x6

When I look at cisco web site, it tells me that .. Illegal HDLC serial type code xxx, PC = 0xnnnnn This message ;is

I have been checking config, I have not found anythng wrong with it.

Does;on

Tatsuya

/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Tatsuya Kawasaki Allegiance Tele;Unhttp://www.kivex.com Phone 301.215.6777 Fax 301.215.5991 Affiliation given for identificat;no/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

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At Tuesday 09:21 ;/1

>When I debug serial interface, >I got the following.. >Apr 11 08:41:45 xxxxxxx 10488: *Ap; 2>Illegal HDLC serial type code 1, PC=0x6005C7B8 >Apr 11 08:41:47 xxxxxxx 10490: *Apr 10 23:38:43.750 CST:;le> >When I look at cisco web site, it tells me that .. >Illegal HDLC serial typ;de>This message is displayed if an unknown packet type is received. > >I have been checking config, I h;no> >Does anyone have any suggestions? > > >Tatsuya

I am assuming this has something to do w;yoyou posted about on 04/06, is it Tatsuya ?

Mind following up on that story ? And beat me if I ;ed

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You are removed.

On Tu;pr> How do I get off this crazy thing. > > D. > > > At 10:58 AM 4/11/;04> >At Tuesday 09:21 AM 4/11/00 , Tatsuya Kawasaki wrote: > > > > >When I debug serial interface, > > >I got; f> > >Apr 11 08:41:45 xxxxxxx 10488: *Apr 10 23:38:41.742 CST: > > >Illegal HDLC serial type code 1, PC=0x6005C7; >> > >Illegal HDLC serial type code 69, PC=0x6005C7B8 > > > > > ;n > > >Illegal HDLC serial type code xxx, PC = 0xnnnnn > > >This message is di;ye> > > > > >I have been checking config, I have not found anythng wrong with it. >; >> > > > > > > > >Tatsuya > > > >I am assuming this has something to do with your pin;ac> >you posted about on 04/06, is it Tatsuya ? > > > >Mind following up on that story ? And beat me if I mis;th> > --------------------------------------- > Darin Divinia > Yahoo! > ddivinia@yahoo-inc.com > ------------;--

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From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29214 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004111856.OAA29214@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14126; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:36:48 -0400 (envelope-fr;isDate: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:36:48 -0400 X-From_: bruno.de.troch@bt.be Tue Apr 11 10:36:47 2;Re mailrelay.bt.be (access2.bt.be [195.171.36.21]) by puck.nether.net for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:36:46 -04Rec;d-Received: from techie.bt.be ([195.171.36.105] helo=exchange2.zav.bt.be) by mailrela;.b id 12f1oh-0004jm-00 for cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:38:59 +0200 Received: ; E (Mail essentials server 2.421) wit;TP for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> 4/11/00 4:34:43 PM +0200 Received: by exchange2.zav.bt.;it id <2WYQJALF>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:34:43 +0200 Message-ID: <E37AFB1B5837D211BF58000,;41To: "'cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net'" <cisco-nsp@puck.ne;.nOld Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:34:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type;xt charset="iso-8859-1" X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@puck.nether; RResent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [nsp] Route reflector

Is there ;ecrouter as route reflector?

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From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29279 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004111857.OAA29279@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08835; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:53:28 -0400 (envelope-fr;isDate: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:53:28 -0400 X-From_: marct@ip.versatel.net Tue Apr 11 05:53:27 ; R styx.ip.versatel.net (styx.ip.versatel.net [212.48.44.7]) by puck.nether.net (8.9.;9. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:53:26 -0400 (envelope-from marct@ip.versa;neReceIved-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:53:26 -0400 Received: from mail.ip.versatel.net ([10.31.0.31]) by styx.ip.;at id LAA69364 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:53:09 +0200 (CEST) Rec;d: by mail.ip.versatel.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA76461 for <cisco-nsp;k.Old-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:55:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Marc Teichtahl ;ctX-Sender: marct@fank.m2.ip.versatel.net To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: SRP and IOS In-Reply-To: ;e.Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004111153150.74119-100000@fank.m2.ip.versatel.ne;IMContent-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Re;-FResent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:57:57 -0400 Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

just a quck ; f

there is a serious bug in I0S 12.0.5S with respect to SRP.

it seems that there is a problem which ri;shoctets. This results in a broken SRP topology database.

I just thought id post this as informa; o

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Marc Teichtahl Manager, Data Network Engineering Versa(tel Telecom NASDAQ: VRSA AEX: VERSReceived: from someone claiming to be mw1.texas.net (mw1.texas.net [206.127.30.11]) by puck.nether.ne;.9 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:26:49 -0400 (envelope-from ed@texa;t)Received: from staff2.texas.net (staff2.texas.net [207.207.0.39]) ; m id OAA29292 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:26:42 -0500 (CDT) Re;edDate: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:26:41 -0500 From: Edward Henigin <ed@datafoundry.net> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Mes;-IMime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0;bj

Does anyone know of a page (Cisco-provided or otherwise) to help troubleshoot o;t a slow trickle of output drops on a *very* lightly loaded T3 POET card, and I'd like ;ig

Here's what I did look at:

1) show int ser 9/0/0 - check output queue: it hasn't deviat;ro that I've looked at it.

2) if-cons 9 c - connects me to the VIP, then I do 'show proc cpu' and;ee

3) show controllers cbus util - I see that I'm below 30% for both bus 0 and bus 1; s - comes up blank

5) show mem sum - plenty of Processor memory, but I'm low on Fast memory, wou;

Anything else to check? Any Cisco-provided debug papers?

Ed

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Hi All:

In looking at the following Looking Glass output, what is the difference between the two metrics, one i;re

xxxx xxxxx 192.41.177.143 (metric 27) from 165.117.1.122 (165.117.1.122) Origin;, Community: 2548:200 2548:666 3706:127 5650:650 Thanks,

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From jesper@skriver.;TuReceived: from someone claiming to be freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:23:26 -0400 (envelop;omReceived-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:23:26 -0400 Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (PostfixDate: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:To: Michael K. Smith" <mksmith@semaphore.com> Cc: "'cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net'" <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> Subject: ;[nMessage-ID: <20000411222319.A3017@skriver.dk> References: <B9D34B897699D3118D6700D0A800079514B953@;anMime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <B9D34B8;9D

On;, > Hi All: > > In looking at the following Looking Glass output;at> between the two metrics, one in parenthesis and the one below it? > > xxxx xxxxx > 192.41.177.;(m ^^ IGP metric.

> ; ^^^^^^^^^^ ; > Community: 2548:200 2548:666 3706:127 5650:650

/Jesper

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From grr@shandakor.t;isReceived: from someone claiming to be shandakor.tharsis.com (IDENT:root@shandakor.tharsis; [ by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03502 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000;38 (envelope-from grr@shandakor.tharsis.com) Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:38:09 -0400 Received: (from grr@lo;osDate: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:37:;04From: George Robbins <grr@shandakor.tharsis.com> Message-Id: <200004112037.QAA00815@shandakor.tharsis.com> To: ci;nsSubject: Re: [nsp] troubleshooting output drops?

show interface switching should gi;orwere dropped.

George

> From cisco-nsp-request@puck.nether.net Tue Apr 11 15:40:03 2000 > R;t-> Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:26:49 -0400 > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:26:41 -,; >> Subject: [nsp] troubleshooting output drops? ;se> X-Mailing-List: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> archive/latest/2584 > X-Loop: cisco-nsp@p;ne> Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: cisco-nsp-request@puck.nether.net > > Does anyone know of a page (Cisco-pro;d > to help troubleshoot output drops on a Cisco router? I'm seeing > a slow trickle of output drops on a *ve;li> card, and I'd like to figure out what's causing that. > > Here's what I did look at: > > 1) show; s> - check output queue: it hasn't deviated from 0/40 at any time > that I've looked at it. > > 2) if-con;c > that the VIP CPU load is at 7% > > 3) show cont;er> - I see that I'm below 30% for both bus 0 and bus 1 > > 4) show buffers failures > - comes up blank >;5)> - plenty of Processor memory, but I'm low on Fast memory, would > that cause this problem? > > >;yt> > Ed > >

From grr@shandakor.t;isReceived: from someone claiming to be shandakor.tharsis.com (IDENT:root@shandakor.tharsis; [ by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03631 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000;41 (envelope-from grr@shandakor.tharsis.com) Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:41:25 -0400 Received: (from grr@lo;osDate: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:41:;04From: George Robbins <grr@shandakor.tharsis.com> Message-Id: <200004112041.QAA14052@shandakor.tharsis.com> To: ci;nsSubject: Re: [nsp] BGP Metric Question

The metric in parentheses is an internal ;meOrigin IGP is the "MED/Multi-exit-discriminator" controlled by the "set metric xxx" statement in a ro;maalso a default control somewhere that make it either 0 or infinite when not specified - that; nsomebody's idea of BGP infinity...

George

> From cisco-nsp-request@puck.nether.ne;e > Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:33:03 -0400 > Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:14:25 -0400 > Fro;Mi> To: "'cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net'" <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> > Date: Tue, 11 A;00> Subject: [nsp] BGP Metric Question > Resent-From: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > X-Mailing-List: <cisco-ns;ck> X-Loop: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: cisco-nsp-request;k.> > Hi All: > > In looking at the following Looking Glass output, what is the difference > between the two me;s,> > xxxx xxxxx > 192.41.177.143 (metric 27) from 165.117.1.122 (165.117.1;) > Community: 2548:200 2548:666 3706:127 ;:6> > Thanks, > > Mike > > Michael K. Smith--------------------------------------------------------- > Manager of Ne;k > NIC Handle: ms1986 2001 6th Ave Suite 400 > mksmith@semaphore.com Seattle, WA ;1 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > PGP ;Fi> ---------------------------------------------------------> > >

From niels@euro.net ; AReceived: from someone claiming to be venus.euro.net (venus.euro.net [194.134.0.9]) by puck.nether.;(8 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:31:11 -0400 (envelope-from niels;o.ReCeived-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:31:11 -0400 Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by venus.euro.net (8.8.8/8;) Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:30:15 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:30:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ni;BaTo: "De Troch, Bruno" <Bruno.De.troch@bt.be> cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] Route ;ecIn-Reply-To: <E37AFB1B5837D211BF580008C7A4119A01C92734@EXCHANGE1> Message-ID: <1000411232859.7332B-100000@venus.euro.n;X-MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Bruno de Troch wrote:

> Is there a sp;ic> router as route reflector?

Yes. One of them is that you're introdu; awhich you're loading even more CPU-wise.

-- Niels.

From ser@dipsy.tch.o;TuReceived: from someone claiming to be dipsy.tch.org (IDENT:root@dipsy.tch.org [166.88.4.10]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:12:07 -0400 (envelop;omReceived-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:12:07 -0400 Received: (from ser@localhost) by dipsy.tch.org (8.10.;ta Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:11:47 -0700 From: Steve ;n To: George Robbins <grr@shandakor.tharsis.com> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net, mksmith@semaphSubject:Message-ID: <20000411181147.A17603@tch.org> ReferenceMX-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200004112041.QAA14052@shanda;th

Slight correction, the numer is paren; tnothing to do with BGP specificly.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 04:41:13PM -0400, George ;in> The metric in parentheses is an internal BGP metric, the one in the > Origin IGP is the "MED/Multi-exit-discrim;or> "set metric xxx" statement in a route-map somewhere. I think there's > also a default control somew; t> when not specified - that big number could either be explict or > somebody's idea of BG;fi> > George > > > From cisco-nsp-request@puck.nether.net Tue Apr 11 16:33:02 2000 > > Resent-Date: Tue, 11 ;20> > Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:14:25 -0400 > > From: "Michael K. Smith" <mksmith@semaphore.com>; T> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:05:36 -0700 > > Subject: [nsp] ;Me> > Resent-From: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > > X-Mailing-List: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> archive/latest/25; >> > Precedence: list > > Resent-Sender: cisco-nsp-request@puck.nether.net > > > > Hi A;> > > In looking at the following Looking Glass output, what is the difference > > between the two metrics, one in parent;s > > > > xxxx xxxxx > > 192.41.177.143 (metric 27) from 165.117.1.122 (165.117.1.122) > > ;ig> > Community: 2548:200 2548:666 3706:127 5650:650 >; > > > > Mike > > > > Michael K. Smith--------------------------------------------------------- > > Manager o;tw> > NIC Handle: ms1986 2001 6th Ave Suite 400 > > mksmith@semaphore.com Seat; W> > 206-905-5023 206-905-5000 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------;- > > -----------------------------------------;--> > > > > >

-- Steve Rubin * ser@tch.org * http://www.tch.org/~ser/

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Hi, Ive searched High and Dry for an answer to this problem, but can't seem to work it out.

Here goes :-

We;e account, here is how it is setup.

Through radius he is a;nethrough to 203.19.222.116

In our main Cisco router I have a route for th; i255.255.255.240 203.19.222.96 There subnet works a treat, they dial into one out of

Now the problem is on our analouge dialin lines, they are both control203.19.222.115

For some reason the IP's of 203.19.222.111 - 203.19.222.114 are routed to the 203.;22to the dialin interface of the client with the 16 ip subnet. ;avchecked and there are no static routes set in the max, and none on the cisco, nothing in the radius profile to ;cacleared the arp tables on both the Cisco and maxes, but still no go. Another thing I have noti;isthe MAC address for the ip range above (.100 - .115) has teh same MAC addres; t

Here is the output of a show ip route on the max :

ascend% sh ip route;.1

Destination Gateway IF Flg Pref Met Use Age 203.19.222.112/28 203.19.222.116 w;

ascend% sh ip route 203.19.222.114

Destination Gateway IF Flg Pr;et203.19.222.112/28 203.19.222.116 wan11 rGT 60 1 29994 5098

and on the cisco :

Routing e; f Known via "connected", distance 0, metric 0 (connected, via interface) Routing Descriptor Blocks:;* Route metric is 0, traffic share count is 1

As mentioned above, there are no st; rstatic routes in the cisco which I could think of that woudl be causing the problem. ;veno difference.

I have also double checked with the client to m;subroadcasting any strange things, and its all fine down there (i set it up) and have double checked ; W

Thanks guys.

--- Cheers,

R. Strachan Satlink Internet S;cePh. +61-3-9775-2600 Fax. +61-3-9775-2456 Email. roddy@satlink.com.au

From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24673 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004120648.CAA24673@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24637; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:46:34 -0400 (envelope-fr;isDate: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:46:34 -0400 X-From_: roddy@satlink.com.au Wed Apr 12 02:46:33 2;Re satlink.com.au (IDENT:root@southx.sx.com.au [203.19.222.1]) by puck.nether.net (8.9;.9 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:46:29 -0400 (envelope-from roddy@satlink;.aReceIved-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:46:29 -0400 Received: from vtss.satlink.com.au (nisn200sx.glasgow-ra By satlink.com.au (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3C6PgM11187; Wed, 12 Message-Id: <4.3.0.2;41X-Sender: roddy@mail.satlink.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Ol;teTo: ascend-users@bungi.com From: Roddy Strachan <roddy@satlink.com.au> Cc: cisco-nsp@puc;thMime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list ;veResent-From: jared@puck.nether.net Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:48:40 -0400 Resent-To: cisco-nsp@pu;etSubject: [nsp] OSPF on Max problems?

Hi, I have just implemented OSPF on our Maxes, the problem I am having is, ;t himself, say for example he dialled in on max1, he hang; ato max2, a traceroute to one of his ips on the class he was assigned, shows a routing loop at our router, ;t

If i reset the OSPF session, it works fine. Any ideas as to why OSPF wont update its da;sewith the other max. Everything the debug information looks ok, a;he

eg :

6 max2.satlink.com.au (x.x.x.x) 89 ms 85 ms 70 ms 7 gw1.mel.satlink.com.au (;x.

It keeps doing that for about 20 hops, then stops, its looping in other words

Any hel

R. Strachan Satlink Internet Services Pty Ltd. Ph. +61-3-9775-2600 FaxEmail. roddy@satlink.com.a,From neil@COLT.NET ;ApReceived: from someone claiming to be NetBSD.noc.COLT.NET (NetBSD.noc.COLT.NET [212.74.95.132]) by p;ne for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 03:47:17 -0400 (envelope;m Received-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 03:47:17 -0400 Received: from COLT.NET (localhost.colt.net by Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:47:0To: Edward Henigin <ed@datafoundry.net> cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net, "Neil J. McRae" <neil@COLT.NET>;jeIn-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:26:41 CDT." <2;41From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@COLT.NET> Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@COLT.NET> Date: Wed,; A Edward Henigin <ed@datafoundry.net> wro; H

> Does anyone know of a page (Cisco-provided or otherwise) > to help troubleshoot o;t > a slow trickle of output drops on a *very* lightly loaded T3 POET > card, and I'd l;to> > Here's what I did look at: > > 1) show int ser 9/0/0 > - check output queue: it;n'> that I've looked at it. > > 2) if-cons 9 c > - connects me to the VIP, then I ;sh> that the VIP CPU load is at 7% > > 3) show controllers cbus util > - I see that I'm belo,;% > > 5) show mem sum > - plenty of Process;em> that cause this problem? > > > Anything else to check? Any Cisco-provide;bu> > Ed >

-- Neil J. McRae C O L T I N T E R N E T neil@COLT.NET "In this,;ld

From neil@COLT.NET ;ApReceived: from someone claiming to be NetBSD.noc.COLT.NET (NetBSD.noc.COLT.NET [212.74.95.132]) by p;ne for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 03:48:40 -0400 (envelope;m Received-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 03:48:40 -0400 Received: from COLT.NET (localhost.colt.net by Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:48:3To: "Michael K. Smith" <mksmith@semaphore.com> cc: "'cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net'" <cisco-nsp@puck.nethe;t>Subject: Re: [nsp] BGP Metric Question In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Ap;00 <B9D34B897699D3118D6700D0A800079514B953@exchange.semaphore.lan> From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@;.NRepLy-To: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@COLT.NET> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:48:31 +0100 Sender: neil@COLT.NET

On Tue, 11 Apr ,; 1

One is EGP [BGP], the other is IGP [and

> Hi All: > > In looking at the following Looking Glass output, what > between the two metrics,; i> > xxxx xxxxx > 192.41.177.143 (metric 27) from 165.117.1.122 (165.117.1.122) ; > Community: 2548:200 2548:666 3706:127 5650:6; > > Mike > > Michael K. Smith--------------------------------------------------------- > Manager of Network -;at> mksmith@semaphore.com Seattle, WA 98121 ;6-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > PGP Key Fi;pr> ---------------------------------------------------------------;--> >

-- Neil J. McRae C O L T I N T E R N E T neil@COLT.NET "In this world the; t Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig?"

From jaitken@aitken.; WReceived: from someone claiming to be eagle.aitken.com (jaitken@eagle.aitken.com [209.249.97.250;by for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:16:09 -0400 (;loReceived-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:16:09 -0400 Received: (from jaitken@localhost) by eagle.ai;.c for cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:15:59 -0400 From: Jeff Aitken <jaitken@a;n.MeSsage-Id: <200004121415.KAA26033@eagle.aitken.com> Subject: number of prefixes heard from bgp neighbor] To: cisco-n;ucDate: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:15:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL53 (25)]

I'd like to be able to ; tpeer. Despite the fact that Cisco routers, at least, keep this nummib. The only solution I sean; tbetter way to do this?

--Jeff

From mike.norris@hea;ieReceived: from someone claiming to be urda.heanet.ie (urda.heanet.ie [193.1.219.124]) by puc;th for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:32:52 -0400 (envelope-f;miFrom: mike.norris@heanet.ie Received-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:32:52 -0400 Received: from leviathan (;.h by urda.heanet.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA21710; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:32:43 +0100 Reply-To;ikSender: "Mike Norris" <mike.norris@heanet.ie> To: "'Jeff Aitken'" <jaitken@aitken.com>, <cisco-nsp@puc;thSubject: RE: number of prefixes heard from bgp neighbor] Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:33:19 +0100 Message-ID: <3F2D1A-;B8Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-T;feX-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4In-ReImportance: Norm

> I'd like to be able to poll the number of prefixes heard from a bgp> in a counter somewhere, I can't find any reference to it in the bgp > mib. The only solution I ;is> and do the counting myself. Can anyone confirm that there is no > better way to d;isI doN't know about a MIB variable, but the bottom line of

show ip bgp neighbor <neighbor-address> routes

gives the ;l

Mike Norris

From jaitken@aitken.; WReceived: from someone claiming to be eagle.aitken.com (jaitken@eagle.aitken.com [209.249.97.250;by for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:41:55 -0400 (;loReceived-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:41:55 -0400 Received: (from jaitken@localhost) by eagle.ai;.c Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:41:45 -0400 From: Jeff Aitken <jaitken@aitken.com> Message-Id: <200004-;41In-Reply-To: <3F2D1A940FB8D1118A1F006;36To: mike.norris@heanet.ie Date: W;12Cc: jaitken@aitken.com, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.> I don't know about a MIB variable, but the bottom l> > gives the total number of prefixes. But maybe you knew this already...

Yup, it's available in the output;secommands (sh ip bgp n, su ip bgp su are two that come to mind). But unless I'm missing somethin; dpoll directly with SNMP.

--Jeff

From cosmo@olywa.net;d Received: from someone claiming to be valis.olywa.net (valis.olywa.net [216.173.192.2]) by puck.ne;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:44:38 -0400 (envelope-from ;o@puck.nether.netReceived-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:44:38 -0400 Received: from rocinante ([216.173.193.132]) by valis.olywa.net ; with SMTP id net for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.n; Message-ID: <005d01bfa48d$9ed75780$84c1add8@olywa.net> From: "Jay Stewart" <cosmo-;waTM: <cisSubject: Re: number of prefixes;rdDate: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:44:34 -0700 Organization: OlyWa.Net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/pla; cContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook ;esX-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600

Try "show ip bgp sum". The number of prefixes ; yin the rightmost column.

Jay Stewart Vice President Olympia Networking Services - "The Northwest';emhttp://www.olywa.net

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Aitken" <jaitken@aitken.com> To: <cisco-nsp@puck;heSent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:15 AM Subject: number of prefixes heard from bgp neighbor]

I'd like to be able ;olpeer. Despite the fact that Cisco routers, at least, keep this number in a coun;somib. The only solution I see is to poll the entire bgp4PathAttrTable; dbetter way to do this?

--Jeff

From CMartin@mercury;inReceived: from someone claiming to be hermes.balink.com (baisgate.balink.com [199.45.32.; for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:02:44 -0400 ;veReceived-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:02:44 -0400 Received: by HERMES with Internet Mai;rv id <2ZB215J9>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:01:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4F8C08CC6E76D311AD1F00508B7872495DA841@HERME-;roCc: ci;nsSubject: RE: number of prefixes heard from bgp neighbor] Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:01:36 -0400 MIME-Vers; 1X-MaIler: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Let us not forget that th;mbtrain (11.1). Pre-CC images, or non 12.x images do not disply the count. In tha;se

-/chris

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Aitken [mailto:jaitken@aitken.co; S> To: mike.norris@heanet.ie > Cc: jaitken@aitken.com; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > -;ec> > I don't know about a MIB vari;, > > > > show ip bgp neighbor <neighbor-address> routes > > > > gives the total number of prefix; B> this already... > > Yup, it's available in the output of several of the 'sh ip bgp' > commands (sh ;gp> unless I'm missing something it doesn't seem to be something you can >;l > > > --Jeff >

From niels@euro.net ; AReceived: from someone claiming to be venus.euro.net (venus.euro.net [194.134.0.9]) by puck.nether.;(8 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:01:11 -0400 (envelope-from niels;o.ReCeived-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:01:11 -0400 Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by venus.euro.net (8.8.8/8;) Thu, 13 Apr 2000 01:01:00 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 01:00:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ni;BaTo: "Martin, Christian" <CMartin@mercury.balink.com> cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: numb;f In-Reply-To: <4F8C08CC6E76D311AD1F00508B7872495DA841@HERMES> Message-ID: <1000413005911.-;B-Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

> Let us not ;et> train (11.1). Pre-CC images, or non 12.x images> IN that case, performa a 'show ip route summary'.

Really? 11.2 has had

From CMartin@mercury;inReceived: from someone claiming to be hermes.balink.com (baisgate.balink.com [199.45.32.; for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:19:17 -0400 ;veReceived-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:19:17 -0400 Received: by HERMES with Internet Mai;rv id <2ZB21690>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:18:09 -0400 Message-ID: <4F8C08CC6E76D311AD1F00508B7872495DA843@HERME-;ro "Martin, Christian" <;tiCc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: RE: number of prefixes heard from bgp neighbor] Date: Wed, 12; 2MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="wind;12

HrMm... My mistake. I was unaware that there was considerable deployment of 11.2 in SP networks. Of course, 11.2 En;rifor corporate gear, so I see where this would be a useful image. I stand corrected.

-/chris;--> From: Niels Bakker [mailto:niels@euro.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:01 PM > To: Mart;Ch> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: number of prefixes heard from bgp neighbor] > > > > Let us not fo; t> introduced in the 'CC' > > train (11.1). Pre-CC images, or non 12.x images do not > di; t> > In that case, performa a 'show ip route summary'. > > Really? 11.2 has had that feature at least since 11.> > -- Niels. >

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Any pointers on load balancing f;eb

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Hi,

Server Load Balancing (SLB) is available for 7xxx and Cat 6xxx platforms in 12.0.7-XE take a look at this: h;//limit/120xe/120xe7/iosslb.htm

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Horacio T. Cadiz" <hcadiz@i2sys.com> To: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether;> Subject: [nsp] Load Balancing

> Any pointers on load balancing for > web servers throu;OS> - Bombim Cadiz > ************************************************************ > ** > * Horacio T. Cadiz hcadiz@i2s;om> * > * Infinity Information Systems, Inc. | "Seize the paycheck!" > * > ****************************;******************** > ** > > >

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Horacio, ; IThere are commerical gears that help you to load balace. I suggest the following. - load balancing via DNS -;d

If you are getting more than it can handle, I suggest to get either hi performace mach; Ion Pent. based machine with apache should be suffice for the most case.

Tatsuya

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Horacio T. Cadiz wrote:

> Any pointers on load balancing for > web servers th;h > > -- Bombim Cadiz > ************************************************************ > ** > * Horacio T. Cadiz hcadiz;ys> * > * Infinity Information Systems, Inc. | "Seize the paycheck!" > * > ************************;************************ > ** > > >

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This may be a pretty elementary question, but I can't seem to find any documentation on it.

I have a 2610 and ;trit. I do a show version and get the following line:

cisco 2610 (MPC860) process;reof memory

What is the 18432K/6144K really telling me? Do I have 18MB, 6MB, 24MB, or;et

Thanks.

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>I have a 2610 and I'm trying to figur-;t > >cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x1;wi>of memory > >What is the 18432K/6144K really telling me? Do I have 18MB, 6MB, 24MB, >or something e-;

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> This may be a pretty elementary question, but I can't seem to find any > ;me> > I have a 2610 and I'm trying to figure out how much RAM I have on > it. I do a show version and get th;ll> > cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x100) with 18432K/6144K bytes > of memory > > What is the 18432;44> or something else? 24M splitted for taking 25% (default) as I/O memory. ;--Basil (Vasily) Dolmatov CCIE #5347, CCNP-Security, CCDA East Conne;n

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Horacio T. Cadiz wrote:

> Any poin; o> web servers through IOS?

On what platform? And what exactly would *you* consider load-balancing? ;e

But there are many ways to do "load balancing". It will depend on the deta;ofwork, how reliable it needs to be, etc.

-jr

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Wouldn't the Cisco Local Director be a better fit than the PIX?

- David

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> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Horacio T. Cadiz wrote: > > > Any pointers on load balancing for > > web ser; t> > On what platform? And what exactly would *you* consider load-balancing? > One (Cisco) platform to look at;ld> > But there are many ways to do "load balancing". It will depend on the > details of the application, how ; h> work, how reliable it needs to be, etc. > > -jr > > ---- > Josh Richards [JTR38/JR539;N]> IP Network Engineering and Consulting > > ,From jrichard@fix.ne;huReceived: from someone claiming to be clark.fix.net (jrichard@clark.fix.net [206.190.71.2]) by pu;et for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:45:39 -0400 (envelope-; jReceived-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:45:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (jrichard@localhost) by clark.fi;t for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13; 2From: Josh Richards <jrichard@fix.net> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] HDLC erro;t In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000411091900.11398B-100000@kds1> Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.21.0004131343470.17674-100;clMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Tatsuya Kawasaki wrote:

>;n > Apr 11 08:41:47 xxxxxxx 10490: *Apr 10 23:38:43.750 CST: > Illegal HDLC ;al> > When I look at cisco web site, it tells me that .. Illegal HDLC serial > type code xxx, ; 0> packet type is received. > > I have been checking config, I have not fou;ny

I'd try to take a look at the packet in question:

debug packet serial

-jr

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On Fri, ;r

> Do the TOS/precedence bits get copied from the inner IP > packet to the outer when an IP pa; i> IPSec tunneling ?

Yes, this is defined as a requirement of tunnel mode IPSec, so it would (hopefu; bIPSec setup is not alive right now to verify this in IOS at the ;nt> If> specific ?

For same reasons as above, any version of I;hado this. Hardware platform should not matter.

> If no, can someone point me in the right directi;bo> not, and when Cisco plans to do this ?

I'll be optimistic and say that the answer is, indeed, a "yes".

-jr

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On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Tatsuya Kawasaki wrote:

> I need a exmaple ;hy> routing protocol no access-list that prevent from reaching IP.

No access;t ping/traceroute?

> why ping works but not traceroute?

Well they are di;en

 I guess what I really want to know is how ping works and how traceroute > works.

This is an interesting read to ;n them:

RFC 1739: A Primer on Internet and TCP/IP Tools <URL:http://www.rfc-editor.org/;rf

-jr

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Wade

-------------------------------------;--Wade Williams "Put your message in a modem Systems Engineer, Cisco S;msNSP Ohio Valley Region - N. Peart Brentwood, TN 615-221-2918 wwilliam;co-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>I've never been able to find anything d;it>charts and downloading images and rebooting the router gets tedious as >a way of checking inlu

George

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, David Hekimian wrote:

> Wouldn't the Cisco Lo;Di

Doh! Yeah that is what I was *thinking* but not what I *typed*. You would be corre; -

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From bgreene@cisco.c;ThReceived: from someone claiming to be mail1.cisco.com (mail1.cisco.com [171.68.225.60]) by puck.;er for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:13:47 -0400 (envelope-fro;reReceived-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:13:47 -0400 Received: from bgreenent2 (bgreene-dsl2.cisco.com [144.254.1;9]Fr;"BTo: "Wade Williams" <wwilliam@cisco.com>, "George Robbins" <grr@shanda;th <panigl@cc.univie.ac.at> Cc: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> Subject: RE: [nsp] IOS Dat;huMessage-ID: <007001bfa594$a27458e0$5f01a8c0@bgreenent2.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-T; t charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer;crIn-Reply-To: <NCBBJJMHNMHCKBBLEDPOKEGLGHAA.wwilliam@cisco.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By;roImportance: Normal

Try http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/roadmap.shtml

Barry

> -----Orig; M> From: Wade Williams [mailto:wwilliam@cisco.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 1:56 PM > To: George Robbin;fc> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: RE: [nsp] IOS > > > Ask your SE. While ;ay> out. > > Wade > > ----------------------------------------------------;--> --------- > Wade Williams "Put your message in a modem > Systems Engineer, Cisco Systems ;nd> NSP Ohio Valley Region - N. Peart > Brentwood, TN > 615-221-2918 > wwilliam;co> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > > >I've never been able to find a;in> >charts and downloading images and rebooting the router gets tedious as > >a way of ;ki> > George > > > > >

From kline@uiuc.edu ; AReceived: from someone claiming to be cub.cso.uiuc.edu (root@cub.cso.uiuc.edu [130.126.113.5]) by p;ne for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:24:19 -0400 (envelope;m Received-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:24:19 -0400 Received: from tailwind (tailwind.cso.uiuc.edu [130.126.113;) for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:24:09 -0500;T)To: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> Subject: RE: [nsp] Load Balancing Date: Thu, 13 Ap;00Message-ID: <NDBBLJEILKJEKNKGEOAMGEGHCBAA.kline@uiuc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; cha;="Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook I-;BuX-MimeOLE: Produced By Mic-;ft> > On what platform? And wh;xa> One (Cisco) platform to look at would be the PIX.

I know this is a Cisco list; ato look at the Foundry ServerIron for this application.

/cvk

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Speaking from experience it would probably be a good idea to look at just about any load ;ncare underpowered, have fewer features, and more expensive then just about e;on

kasHani

At 05:24 PM 4/13/00 -0500, Charley Kline wrote: > > From: Josh Richards [mailto:jrichard@fix.net] > > > > On ; p> > One (Cisco) platform to look at would be the PIX. > >I;w >to look at the Foundry ServerIron fo

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Hi, I am trying to configure a BGP MPLS VPN using Cisco 3640s and 3620s running IOS 12.1.1(T). M;stthis : 10.1.254.0 10.1.1.0 10.1.2.0 10.1.253.0 (CE1;-- vrf

I have IBGP sessions between the PE (so-called Provider Edge) routersinterfaces between the PEs and the CEs (Customer Edge) as shown. MPLS is enabled in the PE and the P (ba;neam even showing that IBGP exchanging MPLS tags for VPN routes. I followed the instruct; oconfig reference for 12.1.1(T).

However, I am unable to get connectiv;beassigned a VRF to the interfaces between the PE and the CE routers, the interfaces dropped ou; tthe VRF. Sample output is shown below.

outputs of sample commands on PE2 ar;ow

<-- - global IP table--->

C 10.1.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet1/0 S 10.1.1.0 [1/0] via 10.1.2.1

<-; v

B 10.1.255.0 [200/0] via 10.1.1.1, 00:28:23 C 10.1.253.0 is dire

Also, "show ip vrf detail" on the PE cribs about this (I think)

<--- oVRF co; de;t Interfaces: Ethernet1/1 ***Connected addresses are not in global routing table*** (asteriks ;) RT:100:1 Import VPN route-target communities RT:100:1 ; No export route-map

<------show tag-switching forwarding table-------> Local Outgoing P;x tag tag or VC or Tunnel Id switched interface 26 ;op27 Aggregate 10.1.253.0/24[V] 0 ;

Am I missing something big ??! thanks, Ravi

From CMartin@mercury;inReceived: from someone claiming to be hermes.balink.com (baisgate.balink.com [199.45.32.; for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:22:09 -0400 ;veReceived-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:22:09 -0400 Received: by HERMES with Internet Mai;rv id <26DM78BY>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:20:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4F8C08CC6E76D311AD1F00508B7872495DA847@HERME-;ro Cc: Ed Orlando <eorlando@cisco.com> Subject: RE: [nsp] Date: Thu, 13 Apr ; 2Return-Receipt-To: "Martin, Christian" <CMartin@mercury.balink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mai;rvContent-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

First, I'm assuming P-3620 is a MPLS LSR. Thus, a (T);isPE1 and PE2.

Then, the interface to the CE needs to be known by BGP on the PE, so that it can be distribut;iaredistribute static, redistribute connected into the ipv4 address family. F;lychoice, ie:

interface Serial0 ip address 10.1.254.1 255;.2! router bgp 65535 no synchronization neighbor 10.1.2.1 remote-as 65534 ! address-family ip;rf reDistribute connected redistribute-static route-map VRF-CO(assuming statics to the CE) no auto-summary no synchro;ti exiT-address-family ! address-family vpnv4 neighbor 10.1.2.1 activate neighbor 10.1.2.1 send-community extended ex;dd! route-map VRF-CO permit 10 match (something to signify statics to the CE) ! end

The key isfor the remote PE-to-CE interfaces, distribut;etsuch a way as to minimize LSP explosion for every prefix. This,; suSe loopbacks for peering sessions, stick the loopbacks in your IGP(TDP), and make your tag interfaces unnumbered to;s next-hop-self and update-source Loopback0 on your iBGP sessions.

HTH, -/chris

>-----Original Messa;-->Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 7:53 PM >To: cisco;@p>Cc: Ed Orlando >Subject: [nsp] configuring BGP/MPLS VPNs > > > >Hi, > I am trying to configure a BGP MPLS; u>3620s running IOS 12.1.1(T). My test network is a simple daisy >chain like >this : > > 10.1.25; >(CE1)----------(PE1-3640)---------(P-3620)---------(PE2-3620)-- >---;-(> > > > >I have IBGP sessions between the PE (so-ca; P>running and exchanging VPN NLRI. Two VRFs are also assigned on the >interfaces between the PEs and ;CE>shown. MPLS is >enabled in the PE and the P (backbone) routers and seems to >work fine. I >am even;wi>I followed >the instructions on cofiguring MPLS VPNs precisely from th;sc>Config reference for 12.1.1(T). > >However, I am unable to get connectivity between the CE routers. When I >assigne;VR>interfaces dropped out of the global IP routing table and only;ppthe VRF. Sample output is shown below. > >outputs of sample commands on PE2 are shown. > ><---- global IP table---;>C>S 10.1.1.0 [1/0] via 10.1.2.1 > ><----- vrf on i/f 10.1.253.2 --;> >C 10.1.253.0 is directly connected, Ethernet1/1 > >also, "show;vr> ><--- output of "show ip vrf detail"---> >VRF co; default RD 100:100 > I;fa> >***Connected addresses are not in global routing table*** >(asteriks mine) > Export ;ro> RT:100:1 > Import VPN route-target communities > RT:100:1 ;o > No export route-map > ><------show tag-switching forwarding table-------> >Local Outgoing Prefix ; >tag tag or VC or Tunnel Id switched interface >26 Po;g >10.1.2.1 >27 Aggregate 10.1.253.0/24[V] 0 ; > > >Am I missing something big ??! >thanks, >Ravi > > > >

From hcadiz@i2sys.co;huReceived: from someone claiming to be fileserver.ph.i2sys.com ([202.43.193.253]) by puck.nether.n;8. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:15:35 -0400 (envelope-from hcadiz;ysREceived-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:15:35 -0400 Received: from bombim (bombim.ph.i2sys.com [202.43.193.3]) by fileser;ph id 2MLH3SA2; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:08:4;80Reply-To: "Horacio T. Cadiz" <hcadiz@i2sys.com> From: "Horacio;CaTo: "Tatsuya Kawasaki" <tatsuya@kivex.com> Cc: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> References: <Pine.GSO.3;10Subject: Re: [nsp] Load Balancing Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:15:26 +0800 Organization: Infi; IMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit;riX-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Mim; V

Thanks. We already do round-robin DNS but it doesn't have the granularity I am looking for.

I to; lit has what I am looking for. I'll be trying that.

On a related note, I ;'tcisco-nsp list. I might have been bumped off the list. Who do I contact regarding this? Thanks.

;************************************************ * Horacio T. Cadiz HCadiz@tge.net | "Carpe per diem!" * * T;ob************************************************************

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> Horacio, > > not I am aware of. > There are c;ri> I suggest the following. > - load balancing via DNS > - load balancing via web s;r > > If you are getting more than it can handle, I suggest to > get either hi performace machine. IMHO, run linux;so> on Pent. based machine with apache should be suffice for the most case. > > Tatsuya > > > /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_;/_> Tatsuya Kawasaki > Allegiance Telecom > Unlock the Power of the Internet > http://www.kivex.com ;on> Affiliation given for identification not representation > /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/;_/> > On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Horacio T. Cadiz wrote: > > > Any pointers on load balancing for > > web ser; t> > > > -- Bombim Cadiz > > ************************************************************ > > ** > > * Horacio ;ad> > * > > * Infinity Information Systems, Inc. | "Seize the paycheck!" > > * > > ;************************************************ > > ** > > > > > >

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On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Jeff Aitken wrote:

> I'd like to be able to poll the number of prefixes heard;m >> in a counter somewhere, I can't find any ;re> mib. The only solution I see is to poll the entire bgp4PathAttrTable > and do the counting myself.;n > better way to do this?

If I remember correctly, there isn't a single entry one can poll; t

I've played around with MIBs that allow you to download each route table en; b

/vijay

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Some;ngof "rsh foo" or a send/expect script to do your data collection... ;

> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:26:49 -0400 (EDT) > From: Vijay Gill <wrath@cs.umbc.edu> > To: Jeff Aitken <jaitken@a;n.> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: number of prefixes heard from bgp neighbor] > > On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, ; A> > > I'd like to be able to poll the number of prefixes heard from a bgp > > peer. Despite the fact that C; r> > in a counter somewhere, I can't find any reference to it in the bgp > > mib. The o;so> > and do the counting myself. Can anyone confirm that there is no ;be> > If I remember correctly, there isn't a single entry one can poll for to > get th> > I've played around with MIBs that allow you to download e> entry, but nothing on the > > /vijay

From jaitken@aitken.; FReceived: from someone claiming to be eagle.aitken.com (jaitken@eagle.aitken.com [209.249.97.250;by for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 00:37:39 -0400 (;loReceived-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 00:37:39 -0400 Received: (from jaitken@localhost) by eagle.ai;.c for cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 00:37:28 -0400 From: Jeff Aitken <jaitken@a;n.MeSsage-Id: <200004140437.AAA00568@eagle.aitken.com> Subject: Re: number of prefixes heard from bgp neighbor In-Reply; <To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.n;atX-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL53 (25)]

Vijay Gill writes: > I've played around;h > entry, but nothing on the per peer level.

Right, in addition to bgpPee;leand get an entry for every single prefix you've heard, and then do any analysis you wa; Uand is hugely inefficient if all you care about is a simply the number of prefix;ec

George Robbins writes: > Some things just aren't in the mibs, leaving you the fun options > of "rs;o"

It would appear that this is exactly the case; our isp-expert rep ;ir

I wonder if this is something they can add...

--Jeff

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Jeff Aitken <jaitken@aitken.com> writes:

> I wonder if this is s;hi

One would suppose, given that (as previously noted), 11.1(CC) and 11.2-and-later print it out along wi;vecan't go fiddling around with mib-2 or you'll risk incurring the wrath of the masses, so it would;e

If you're still running 7000/RP/S[S]Ps, 11.2 is somewhat unadvisable; I have run 11.1(;inthis or a similar situation, "show ip bgp neighbor 1.2.3.4 route" will retu;+7noted, all one has to do is rsh to the router and away you go...

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From gibbs@servint.c;FrReceived: from someone claiming to be mecca.servint.com (mecca.servint.com [209.50.225.14]) by p;ne for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:30:58 -0400 (envelope;m Received-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:30:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (gibbs@localhost) by mecca.ser;.c for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri,;ApFrom: Mike Gibbs <gibbs@servint.com> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net In-Reply-To: <878zygddz4.fs;lhMessage-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.10004140952080.14762-100000@mecca.servint.com> MIME-VersionContent-TySubject: [nsp] European STM1

I am getting a STM1 a 513 to accept this card? I was told the normal POS adapter won't do it.

Mike Gibbs

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Mike,

> I am getting a ST;ro> a 7513 to accept this card? I was told the normal POS adapter won't;>

A Normal POS adapter should do it assuming you have an STM-1 end to end.

Beware that some nefarious telcos will atte;toOC-3 one end and a STM-1 the other, by patching through 3 DS-3s between them on a DACS. It is alleged this;uayou are running ATM on the circuit, as the overhead is what's dropped, but it surely won't work for POS.

You;t the interface:

crc 16 pos ais-shut pos framing sdh pos scramble-a;.. pos flag j0 1 pos flag s1s0 2

-- Alex Bligh VP Core Network, Concentric Network Corporation (formerly ;et

From zisiadis@forthn;r Received: from someone claiming to be forthnet.gr (eos.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.23]) by puck.n;r. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:10:44 -0400 (envelope-from;iaReceived-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:10:44 -0400 Received: from kastorias (kastorias.forthnet.gr [194.219.2;9] for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:10:53 -0400 Me;e-X-Sender: zisiadis@popper.forthnet.gr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro;siDate: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:14:56 +0300 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net From: Dimitris Zisiadis <zisiadis@forthnet; MContent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [nsp] Cisco 2610 and VOIP

Hello all,

we are try;toPlus IOS, configured as a voice gateway. Does anyone know how we; gIt seams that the value of ConnectTime remains always zero:

2w6d: %VOIPAAA-5-VOIP_CAL;ST7BBC01A 3 0 5616066E, SetupTime 0, PeerAddress 017294995, PeerSubAddress , Disco;tCse 1 , DisconnectText normal call clearing., ConnectTime 0, DisconnectTime 0, CallOrigin 2, ChargedUnits 0, InfoType ;raTransmitBytes 602 0, ReceivePackets 241, ReceiveBytes 4820 2w6d: %VOIPAAA-5-VOIP_CALL_HISTORY: CallLegTy;, 7BBC01A 3 0 5616066E, SetupTime 0, PeerAddress 061, PeerSubAddress , DisconnectCause 10 , Disconnec;t 0, CallOr igin 1, ChargedUnits 0, InfoType 2, TransmitPackets 241, Tr;it18, Rece ivePackets 391, ReceiveBytes 16592

Regards Dimitris Zisiadis FORTHnet

From neil@COLT.NET ;ApReceived: from someone claiming to be NetBSD.noc.COLT.NET (NetBSD.noc.COLT.NET [212.74.95.132]) by p;ne for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:23:59 -0400 (envelope;m Received-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:23:59 -0400 Received: from COLT.NET (localhost.colt.net by Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:23:2To: Alex Bligh <amb@gxn.net> cc: Mike Gibbs <gibbs@servint.com>, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net, "N;J.Subject: Re: [nsp] European STM1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:00:14 BST." ; From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@COLT.NET> Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@COLT.; DSender: neil@COLT.NET

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:00:14 +0100 Alex Bligh <amb@gxn.net> ;e:> OC-3 one end and a STM-1 the other, between them on a DACS. It is alleged this actually works if > you ar>

I'd be amazed if this works under any circumstance.

Regards, Neil. --;l neil@COLT.NET "In this world there's two kinds of people ;ri

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Ahh! You are configured correctly.

Try 'ping vrf co x.x.x.x'

The CE r;s co VPN only. You need to do everything in VPN-v4 mode now.;l

HTH, Chris

PS

To get the CE routes 'LAN-side' routes, you can use static;P,Either way, redistribution is necassary.

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ravichander Vaidyanathan [mailto:v;@r> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 10:08 AM > To: Martin, Christian > Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Ed;an> SuBject: RE: [nsp] configuring BGP/MPLS VPNs > > > > Thanks for the response. > > > First, I'm assuming P-3620 is;PL> is built between > > PE1 and PE2. > That is correct. > > Enclosed is relevant config from *PE2*;e > identical to your sample. I have enclosed the figure again for > reference. > > > 10.1;.0> (CE1)----------(PE1-3640)---------(P-3620)------>> vrf vrf > ! > ip vr.; >>> ! > ! > interface Ethernet1/0 > ip addr;10> ip router isis backbone > tag-switching ip > ! > interface Ethernet1/1 > ip vrf forward;co> no cdp enable > ! > ! > router bgp 1 > bgp router-id 10.1.20;> > ! > address-family ipv4 vrf co > redistribute connected > redistribute static;no> no synchronization > exit-address-family > ! > address-family vpnv4 > neighbor 10.1.1.1 activ;> > exit-address-family > ! > > *** sh ip bgp vpnv4 vrf co tags *** > ;wo> Route Distinguisher: 100:100 (co) > 10.1.253.0/24 0.0.0.0 27/aggr;e(> > > ----- > > So it looks to me like tags are being d> routers. Are there any other static routes that I need enabled in > >> BGP into the > ipv4 address family would suffice to d;ib> to the remote > PE. Any help/comments would be much appreciated. > > Another symptom is that I am una;to> *connected* PE router. (this happens after I enable a VRF on > the interface > to the CE r;r)> > thanks, > Ravi > > > > > Then, the interface to the CE needs to be known by BGP on > the PE, so/;t > > Aan be > > redistribute static, redistribute connecte;to> address family. > > Finally, ensure that the CE interface is set to forward > into the VPN of > > choice, ie-;> > > ip vrf forwarding co > > ! > > router bgp 65535 > >; s> > neighbor 10.1.2.1 remote-as 65534 > > ! > > address-family ipv4 vrf co > > redistribute connected > >;di> > no auto-summary > > no synchronization > > exit-addres;mi> >  > > address-family vpnv4 > > neighbor 10.1.2.1 activate > > neighbor 10.1.2.1 send-community extended > > exi;dr> > ! > > route-map VRF-CO permit 10 > > match (something to signify statics to the CE) > > ! > > end > > > >; k> information (per vrf) > > for the remote PE-to-CE interfaces, as well as; r> information > > distributed between them. Secondly, the iBGP session > should be built in > > such a way as to;im> This, you should > > use loopbacks for peering sessions, stick the loopbacks in >;r > > and make your tag interfaces unnumbered to this loopback. Then set > > next-hop-self and update-source Loop;0 > > > > > > HTH, > > -/chris > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Ravichander Vai;at> [mailto:vravi@research.telcordia.com] > > >Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 7:53 PM > > >To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.ne;> > > >Subject: [nsp] configuring BGP/MPLS VPNs > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > I am trying to configure a; M> > >3620s running IOS 12.1.1(T). My test network is a simple daisy > > >chain like > > >th; >>> > > > > > > > >I have IBGP sessions between the PE (so-called Provider > Edge) routers > > > > >interfaces between the PEs > > >shown. ; i> > >work fine. I > > >am even showing that IBGP excha;g > > >I followed > > >the instructions on cofiguring MPLS VPNs precisely from > the Cisco IOS >;co> > > > > >However, I am unable to get connectivity between the CE > routers. When I > > >a;ne> routers, the > > >interfaces dropped out of the global IP routing t; a> > >appear in > > >the VRF. Sample output is shown below. > > > > > >outputs of sample commands on PE2 are shown;> > > > > > >C 10.1.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet1/0 > > >S 10.1.1.0 [1/0;a > > > > > ><----- vrf on i/f 10.1.253.2 ------> > > > > > >B 10.1.255.0 [200/0] via 10.1.1.1, 00:28:23 > > ; > > > > > >also, "show ip vrf detail" on the PE cribs about this (I think;> > > >VRF co; default RD 100:100 > > > Interfaces: > > > Ethernet1/1 ; > >> > >(asteriks mine) > > > Export VPN route-target co;it> >> > > Import VPN route-target communities > > > RT:100:1 > > > ;mp> > > No export route-map > > > > > ><------show tag-switching forwarding table-------> > > >Local Outgoin; P> Next Hop > > >tag tag or VC or Tunnel Id switched >  > >26 Pop tag 10.1.1.0/24 0 Et1/0 > > >1> > >Am I missing something big ??! > > >thanks, > > >Ravi > > > > > > > >

From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30617 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004141427.KAA30617@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA22265; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:31:45 -0400 (envelope-fr;isDate: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:31:45 -0400 X-From_: strakad@forthnet.gr Fri Apr 14 04:31:45 20;ec forthnet.gr (minos.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.22]) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) wit;MT for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:31:42 -0400 (envelope-from strakad@forthnet.gr) Recei/;Da by forthnet.gr (8;/8 Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:31:31 +0300 Message-ID: <38F6D856.12B6FA5A@forthnet.gr> Old-Date: Fri, ;prFrom: Strakadounas Kostas <strakad@forthnet.gr> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: ;ToContent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Diagnostic: Not;thX-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@puck.nether.net Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:27:47 -0400 Res;ToSubject: [nsp] CDR collection on cisco 2610 voice gateway

Does anyone know how I can get the ;econ a Cisco 2610 with 12.0.7T IP Plus IOS, configured as a Voice Gateway?

I get the following CDRs bu;e

Kostas

2w6d: %VOIPAAA-5-VOIP_CALL_HISTORY: CallLegType 2, ConnectionId E0BF38B3 7BB; 3DisconnectCau se 10 , DisconnectText normal call cleari; CDisconnectTime 0, CallOrigin 2, ChargedUnits 0, InfoType 2, TransmitPackets 301, TransmitBytes 602 0, Receiv.;ke7BBC01A 3 0 5616066E, S;TiDisconnectCause 10 , DisconnectText normal call clearing., ConnectTime 0, Disconn;imigin 1, ChargedUnits 0, InfoType 2, TransmitPackets 241, TransmitBytes 128, Rece ivePackets 391, ReceiveBytes --- Kostas Strakandounas FORTHnet 6 Thetidos str. Athens, Greece

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Or I'd recommend the Catalyst 6500 w/Server Load Balancing...

JH

At 02:30 PM 04/13/2000 -0700, Josh Richards wro;>O> >> Wouldn't the Cisco Local Director be a better fit than the PIX? > >Doh! Ye;ha>would be correct. > >-jr > >---- >Josh Richards [JTR38/JR539-ARIN;jr>IP Network Engineering and Consulting > >

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Thanks for the response.

> First, I'm assuming P-3620 is a MPLS LSR. Thus, a (T)LSP is built between > PE1 a;E2

Enclosed is relevant config from *PE2*. The commands I have used seem identical to your sample. I hav;clreference.

10.1.254.0 10.1.1.0 10.1.2.0 10.1.253.0 (CE1)-------;PE vrf vrf; *! ip vrf co rd 100:100 route-target export 100:1 route-target import 100:1 ! ! interfa;th ip address 10.1.2.2 255.255.255.0 ip router isis backbone tag-switching ip ! interface Ethernet1/1 i;f ip address 10.1.253.2 255.255.255.0 no cdp enable ! ! router bgp 1 bgp router-id 10.1.2; ! address-family ipv4 vrf co redistribute connected redistribute static no auto;ma no Synchronization exit-address-family ! address-family vpnv4 neighbor 10.1.1.1 activate neighbor 10.1.1.;nd exit-address-family !

*** sh ip bgp vpnv4 vrf co tags *** Network Next Hop I;g/Route Distinguisher: 100:100 (co) 10.1.253.0/24 0.0.0.0 27/aggregate(co) 10.1.254.0/24 10.1.1.;

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So it looks to me like tags are being distributed between the two PE routers. Are there any other stat;oueither the VRF or the global IP routing table ?

I am assuming that enabling "ipv4 address family would suffice to distribute CE2's PE. Any help/comments w/; b*connected* PE router. (this happe;ftto the CE router). Is this normal ?

thanks, Ravi

> > Then, the interface to the CE n; t> can be distributed via extended community to the other peer(s). Try > redistrib;st> Finally, ensure that the CE interface is set to forward into ;VP> Choice, ie: > > interface Serial0 > ip address 10.1.254.1 255.255.255.252 > ip vrf forwarding co > ! > router bg;53> neighbor 10.1.2.1 remote-as 65534 > ! > address-family ipv4 vrf co > redistribute connected > ;is> no auto-summary > no synchronization > exit-address-famil;! > neighbor 10.1.2.1 activate > neighbor 10.1.2.1 send-community extended > exit-address-family ;> > match (something to signify statics to the CE) > ! > end > > The key is to ensure that the ;te> for the remote PE-to-CE interfaces, as well as any routing information > distribut;et> such a way as to minimize LSP explosion for every prefix. Thi;ou> use loopbacks for peering sessions, stick the loopbacks in your IGP(TDP), > and make your tag interfaces unnumbe;to> next-hop-self and update-source Loopback0 on your iBGP sessions. > > > HTH, > -/chris > > .;--> >Sent: Thursday, April 1;00> >To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > >Cc: Ed Orlando > >Subject: [nsp] configuring BGP/MPLS VPNs > > > > > > > >Hi; >> >3620s running IOS 12.1.1(T). My test network is a simple;sy> >this : > > > > > > > > > >I have IBGP sessions between the PE (so-called Provider Edge) routers > >run; a> >interfaces between the PEs and the CEs (Customer Edge) as > ;wn> >enabled in the PE and the P (backbone) routers and seems to > >work fine. I > >am even showing that IBGP exc;in> >I followed > >the instructions on cofiguring MPLS VPNs precisely from the Cisco IOS > >con;re> > > >However, I am unable to get connectivity between the CE routers. When I > >assigned a VRF to; i> >interfaces dropped out of the global IP routing table and only > >app;in> > > >outputs of sample commands on PE2 are shown. > > > ><---- global IP tabl;> > >C 10.1.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet1/0 > >S 10.1.1.0 [1/0] via 10.1.2.1 > > > ><----- vrf on i/f;1.> > > >B 10.1.255.0 [200/0] via 10.1.1.1, 00:28:23 > >C 10.1.253.0 is directly connected, Ethern;1 > >Also, "show ip vrf detail" on the PE cribs about this (I think) > > > ><--- output of "show ip vrf detail"---> > >V;o;> > Interfaces: > > Ethernet1/1 > >***Connected addresses are not in global routing t;**> >(Asteriks mine) > > Export VPN route-target communities > > RT:100:1 > > Import VPN route-targe;mm> > RT:100:1 > > No import route-map > > No export route-map > > > ><------show tag-switching;wa> >Local Outgoing Prefix Bytes tag Outgoing Next Hop > >tag tag or VC or Tu; I> >26 Pop tag 10.1.1.0/24 0 Et1/0 > >10.1.2.1 ;7 > > > > > > > >Am I missing something big ??! > >tha> > > > > > > > >

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On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 07:45:34AM -0400, Jean ;y  Or I'd recommend the Catalyst 6500 w/Server Load Balancing... >

I'we tested 6500 + LD with Accelerated Server L;Baworks fine for TCP loadbalancing, i guess UDP isn't implemeted yet.

/Anton

> JH > > At 02:30 PM 04/13/2000 -07;Jo> >On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, David Hekimian wrote: > > > >> Wouldn't the Cisco Local Directo> > > >Doh! Yeah that is what I was *thinking* but not what I *type> >-jr > >> >JOsh Richards [JTR38/JR539-ARIN] > ><jrichard@cubicle.net> - <jrichard@f> >IP;wo> > > >

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It has been a few months since I've worked on a LDIR, but last I recall, it remained ;heits inability to load balance UDP, as well as poor SSL handeling, and ;haout there.

/russb

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 12:29:48PM -;, > On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 07:45:34AM -0400, Jean Henry wrote: > > Or I'd recommend the Catalyst 650;Se> > > > I'we tested 6500 + LD with Accelerated Server Load Balancing, > works fine for TCP loadba;in> > /Anton > > > JH > > > > At 02:30 PM 04/13/2000 -0700, Josh Richards wrote: > >; T> > > > > >> Wouldn't the Cisco Local Director be a better fit than the PIX? > > > ;>D> > >would be correct. > > > > > >-jr > > > > > >----; >> > ><jrichard@cubicle.net> - <jrichard@fix.net> - <jrichard@freedom.gen.ca.us> > > >IP N;rk> > > > > >

From grr@shandakor.t;isReceived: from someone claiming to be shandakor.tharsis.com (IDENT:root@shandakor.tharsis; [ by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07028 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sat, 15 Apr 2000;19 (envelope-from grr@shandakor.tharsis.com) Received-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:19:04 -0400 Received: (from grr@lo;osDate: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:18:;04From: George Robbins <grr@shandakor.tharsis.com> Message-Id: <200004151818.OAA22904@shandakor.tharsis.com> To: ci;nsSubject: Re: [nsp] Arp table screwed

what you want to do is used "debug arp" and a;gedebug output, either using syslog debugging to another system, or captureing the output of a console or te; scan analyze the spew off-line.

Usually what happens is that you have an address conflict, one machine t;ththat's causing the a router to "proxy arp" for anyone one; n

George

> From: Mauricio Marquez <mmarquez@enlace.net> > Subject: [nsp] Arp table screwed > > > Hello > ;he> addresses as Incomplete on IP addresses from di;en> to manually insert the addresses on the table. Now obviously this is > causing alot of problems wi;ur> dial-up users. > > Does anyone have any idea how to trace the root of the proble; w> Appreciate any input. > > Thanks in advance, > > Mauricio > >

From niels@euro.net ; AReceived: from someone claiming to be venus.euro.net (venus.euro.net [194.134.0.9]) by puck.nether.;(8 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:58:49 -0400 (envelope-from niels;o.ReCeived-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:58:49 -0400 Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by venus.euro.net (8.8.8/8;) Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:58:33 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:58:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ni;BaTo: Mike Gibbs <gibbs@servint.com> cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] European STM1 In;lyMessage-ID: <1000415214652.24438B-100000@venus.euro.ne;-NMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Mike Gibbs wrote:

> I am getting a STM;om> a 7513 to accept this card? I was told the normal POS adapter won't ; i

PA-POS-OC3 cards do STM1 fine. I have on a 7513 (PA-POS-OC3-SMI in a VIP2-50 filled to the max with DRAM and SRAM - v;im

! interface POS4/1/0 [..] no ip directed-broadcast ip route-cache distributed crc 32 pos ais-shut pos fram;sd pos flag s1s0 2 !

and on the 12008 on the other side: (linecard with 4 OC3/STM1 interfaces)

! inter; P[.] no ip directed-broadcast ip mroute-cache distributed crc 32 pos ais-shut pos framing sdh pos scramble-atm;s !

`pos framing sdh' is all you basically need, s1s0 is to denote the payload as PPP. The other flag;0,ais-shut' is so that the other end can mark the interface down as well if you do a `;doimportant but it doesn't hurt to enable it.

As said, this is a Wo;omnetworks they only need to put an adapter that takes the VC-4 out of the OC192 ;r connectors.

-- Niels.

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> As said, ; i> networks they only need to put an adapter that takes the VC-4 out;th> connectors.

It is my understanding all cables;rt(i.e. would be STM-64, not OC-192).

The scrambling is needed as I understand it as with POS, ;e seem to remember a certain ping packet method to take down;r

-- Alex Bligh VP Core Network, Concentric Network Corporation (formerly GX Networks, Xar

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All,

I'm trying to.;uppeer-group and applying the community at that ;t better way to do this.

Any ideas?

Thomas

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Alex Bligh <amb@gxn.net> wrote:

> I seem to remember a certain ping packet method to take;n > Favourite unscrambled POS link.

Indeed. :-)

> The scrambling is needed as I understand it as with POS, there > is;hi

Which makes it somewhat puzzling why the RFC for it (1619) says:

; T Envelope (SPE), with the octet boundaries aligned w;th No scrambling is needed during insertion into the SPE. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^;^^

I'm a bit confused about how that happened, since the one character you'd think it might want;woused to signify the start and end of every SONET/SDH frame...

M.

From mjc@cooper.org.;SuReceived: from someone claiming to be nmg4.csi.cam.ac.uk (nmg4.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.12.28]) by;k. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:06:15 -0400 (envelo;roReceived-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:06:15 -0400 Received: from mjc64 by nmg4.csi.cam.ac.uk with local ;m id 12gqcb-0005DQ-00 for cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:06:01 +0100 From: Martin Cooper <mjc@coo;orTO: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] European STM1 Message-Id: <E12gqcb-0005DQ-00@nmg4.csi.cam.ac.uk> D; S

Earlier, I wrote:

> I'm a bit confused about how that happened, since the one character >;'d> used to signify the start and end of every SONET/SDH fram;

was that something at a higher level that did implement such escap; Rthe same author) for instance, would be used to avoid that particular problem.

M./From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32198 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004162241.SAA32198@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA12883; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:59:52 -0400 (envelope-fr;isDate: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:59:52 -0400 X-From_: smeuse@genuity.net Fri Apr 14 17:59:51 200/;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3;.3 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:59:50 -0400 (envelope-from smeuse@genuity.; RReceived: from smeuse_2 (dalek.bbnplanet.com [199.94.208.159]) by burlma1-s;.g Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:59:38 GMT Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000414175632.00b57180;.0X Sender: smeuse@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Old-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:59:;09To: Mike Gibbs <gibbs@servint.com> From: Steve Meuse <smeuse@genuity.net> Subject: Re: [nsp] European STM1 Cc: cisco-n;ucIn-Reply-To: <E12g6dq-0005Ro-00@sapphire.noc.gxn.net> References: <Your message of "Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:54:12;."Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-as;; X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@puck.nether.net Resent-Date;n,Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

At 03:00 PM 04/14/2000 +0100, Alex Bligh wrote: >Mike, >; I> > a 7513 to accept this card? I was told the ;al> > it. > >A normal POS adapter should do it assuming you have an STM-1 end >to end.

int pos0/0/0 ;s

>Beware that some nefarious telcos will attempt to deliver you an >OC-3 one end and a STM-1 the other, by pa;ng>between them on a DACS. It is alleged this actually works if >you are running ATM on the circuit, as the;rh>dropped, but it surely won't work for POS.

Also, beware that many European Telco's will give you a coax h;ofyOu don't specify Fiber SC/FC.

I had no Idea that they even did SDH over coax, but apparently this is common in th

-Steve

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RFC 1619 not withstanding, the scrambling in the SPE is insufficient if the intent is;icmapped to a long string of zeros by the scrambling function. If you send that ;ghup bit-aligned to give you enough zeros in a row to cause sonet errors.

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Earlier still, I wrote:

>; a> you'd think it might want to worry about escaping is the ;th> Used to signify the start and end of every SONET/SDH frame...

Before anyone jumps on the deliberate mistake in the;vewhat I meant to say was "at the start and end of every PPP frame" (since they can span SONET/SDH SPEs).

M.

From ferguson@cisco.; SReceived: from someone claiming to be lint.cisco.com (lint.cisco.com [171.68.224.209]) by puck.;er for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:29:29 -0400 (envelope-fro;rgReceived-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:29:29 -0400 Received: from bigger-dawgs.cisco.com (pferguso-isdn.cisco.;[1MEssage-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000416222653.00a94740@lint.cisco.com> X-Sender: pX-Mailer: QUALCOMM Wi/;s To: Jim Warner <warner@cats.UCSC.EDU> From: Paul Ferguson <ferg;@cSubject: Re: [nsp] European STM1 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net, mjc@cooper.org.uk In-Reply-To: <200004161924.MAA;9@cooper.org.ukALCOMM Wi/HMime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 12:24 PM 04/16/2000 -0700, Jim Warner w;: >if the intent is malicious. You can find a patter;at>mapped to a long string of zeros by the scrambling function. If >you send that enough times, some small fractio; t>up bit-aligned to give you enough zeros in a row to cause sonet >errors.

We've been through yhis over & ove; A

- paul

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> RFC 1619 not withstanding, the scrambling in the SPE is in;ic> If the intent is malicious. You can find a pattern that will be > mapped to a long string of zeros by the scrambli;un> you send that enough times, some small fraction of them will end > up bit-aligned to give you enough zeros in;ow> errors.

Of course, as clearly spelled out in the RFC:

"Predicting the output of the scrambler requires;wlof the transmitter as the scrambling of a known input is begun. This requires knowledge of bot;e and every byte of data scrambled by the device sincOf guessing correctly are 1/2**43, with the additional probability of 1payload, which results in a probability of 9e-16 against being able to deliberately caus;NEthis application."

Probability of 9e-16, _this application, been;elnetworks for a while .... I'll talk my chances. Of course, if you've a better idea I'm sure fo;wo

-danny

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loss via Cisco's aux port?

Riho

From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03103 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004171801.OAA03103@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03090; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:01:17 -0400 (envelope-fr;isDate: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:01:17 -0400 X-From_: allan@alum.mit.edu Mon Apr 17 14:01:16 200/;ce by puck.nether.net for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:01:15 -040Receiv;atReceived: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA21344; Mon, 17 ;00Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-;io for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Rec;d: by melbourne-city-street.MIT.E;8. for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Sender: allan@MI;U Old-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:54:50 -0700 From: Allan Chong <allan@alum.mit.e;OrX-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version:; TContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Diagnostic: Not ;heX-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: jared@puck.nether.net Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:01:37 -0400 Rese;o:Subject: [nsp] CCIE & ATM

I'm headed in for my CCIE lab in a few days, and I'm wondering if an/; ohas aget familiar enough with t;ntnot fail that portion of the test.

Any pointers on the lab would be appreciated as well. I'm not sure how much;e like AT & Decnet & IBM. I studied those quite a bit for the written and;llcursory knowledge of it.

Many thanks, allan -- Allan Chong allan@alum.mit.edu

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Allan Chong <allan@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> I'm headed in for my CCIE lab ; f> and I'm wondering if anyone out there > has a Lightstream ATM switch plugged in that > I could hop on and play ;, > get familiar enough with the interface to > not fail that portion of the test.

I'd like to help, but it's a;n

Lightstream 1010 runs IOS though, so it really shouldn't be all that tricky... ;-)

> Any poin; o> as well.

You're unlikely to get any specific help, since all candidates are required to ; aadvice is to get lots of rest the night before, know where you're going so you g;hethere are no points for appearance (this is virtually word for word what the off;l than my advice really!).

> I'm not sure how much time I should be > spending on;se> like AT & Decnet & IBM. I studied those > quite a bit for the written and really > didn't need to ; a> a cursory knowledge of it.

Who can say? ;-)

I must say that I would probably be a lot closer to att;inthat I'll probably never use weren't on the syllabus th;..AnywAy, best of luck with it!

M.

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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Allan Chong wrote:

> I'm h;d > and I'm wondering if anyone out there > has a Lightstream ATM switch plugged in that >;ou> get familiar enough with the interface to > not fail that portion of the test.

The;hthttp://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/ro;g.http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/wan.html http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certif;iohttp://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/sna_ip.html

> Any pointers on the lab would be ;ec>

Before taking the lab you have to sign an NDA. So anyone who could help wo;be

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Bradley Dunn <bradley@dunn.org> wrote:

> The Lightstream is not on the e;me

The ATM Switch Module for the Catalyst is a Lightstream, though, and the Catalyst is o

M.

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I recently spoke with a former coworker who just passed his lab ex;Aclightstreams.

> -----Original Message----- > From: allan;.E> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 13:01 > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > S;ct> > > I'm headed in for my CCIE lab in a few days, > and I'm wondering if anyone out there > has a Ligh;ea> I could hop on and play with, or at least > get familiar enough with the interface to > not;l > > Any pointers on the lab would be appreciated > as well. I'm not sure how much time I > shou;e > like AT & Decnet & IBM. I studied those > quite a bit for the written and really >;n'> cursory knowledge of it. > > > Many thanks, > allan > -- > Allan Chong allan@alum.

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Should be. Some of the UPS indications ;a the RS232 modem-control signals, and with the appropriate line configuration for the aux port, y;shthem via snmp. You may also find UPS's that can "talkor

> From: "Riho R;il> To: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> > Subject: [nsp] UPS control via AUX > > Hi > > Is there a;PS> loss via Cisco's aux port? > > > Riho

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Hi gents,

I'm looking at a network configuration for a customer ;e and some traffic out through another backbone provider. ;e load balancing. Some traffic through us, some through the other guy;hainto the equation. I just don't see it.

backbone A bac;e \ / 3640 | | internal netw;

that you set must be a directly connected router. (The polic;oumust be adjacent.)

I'm just trying to figure out how to do; punder some sort of conditional scenario, or dynamically set the next-hop, or something, based on reachabilit; t

The best thing I can think of is to have a script somewhere that would go in and delete the policy routing ;igthe remote gateway becomes unreachable ...

yuck.

Thoughts?

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long as it is reachable in the routing table (recursive route; and let that provide the redundancy for you.

Let me k;if

-Russ

On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 04:18:22PM -0500, Edward Henigin said: > Hi gents, > > I'm looking at a n;rk> he'd be using policy routing to push some traffic out through us, > and some traffic; t> > The essense of the design gives our customer policy-based > load balancing. Some ;fi> guy. What we're trying to figure out now is how to wrap redundancy > into the equa;. > > > backbone A backbone B > \ / > \ / > 3640 > ; > | > internal > network > > > From what I understand about policy routing, ;'n> that you set must be a directly connected router. (The policy- > routing cisco just re-writes the layer 2 head;so> must be adjacent.) > > I'm just trying to figure out how to do the policy routing > under some sort of c;ti> next-hop, or something, based on reachability of the next-hop. > > The best thin;ca> that would go in and delete the policy routing configuration if > the remote ga;y > > yuck. > > Thoughts?

-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=;-= RuSsell Briggs V 512-474-7676 Director of Engineering ; FreeMe.Com, Inc. F 512-474-9446 russb@quadrunner.com ;

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You can specify multiple next-hops; ithat there's a usuable route for. Of course each of the possible next-hops needs to know how to ;hewhat happens if none of them are reachable, in some cases treating the destination as unreac;e overriding the otherwise determined next hop would be better.

Having a 2nd next-hop t;loaccomplishing the later (or melting down your router 8-)

George

> Date: Mon, 17; 2> From: Edward Henigin <ed@datafoundry.net> > To: Cisco Gurus <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> > Subject: [n;fa> > Hi gents, > > I'm looking at a network configuration for a customer where > he'd be usi;ol> and some traffic out through another backbone provider. > > The essen;f > load balancing. Some traffic through us, some through the other > guy. What;re> into the equation. I just don't see it. > > > backbone A ba;ne> > \ / > 3640 > | > | > internal > ; > > > From what I understand about policy routing, the 'next hop' > that you set must be a directly connec;ro> routing cisco just re-writes the layer 2 header, so the next-hop > must be adjacent.) > > I'm just;in> under some sort of conditional scenario, or dynamically set the > next-hop,;so> > The best thing I can think of is to have a script somewhere > that w; g> the remote gateway becomes unreachable ... > > yuck. > > Thought;

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I dOn't think this is correct. I tried to make this work some time ago with cache redirection, and hit the wall with;n-since the manual clearly states 'next-hop does not need ;e have it next to me.) They contacted Section and he said "Whoops! Typo! Yes, it does need to be directly cnon-adjacent hosts (i.e. layer 3 re-write instead of layer 2) I'd be eternally grateful beca;th

Ed, to answer your question directly: WCCP is the only thing that I know of that can0;seyou're ;inmay be) solution, use BGP and then weight the paths with localpr;r dynamic, but does provide failover ability. I've fo;thwith the localprefs of only a few AS'es is all you need to make the traffic "more-or-less" balanced. Granted;u of AS path-length as a preferred metric, but since you're talking about using next-hop to break it;wais as good as another. ;)

Upon re-reading this whole document, I find that "use BGP" is t;vesomehow, but I don't see where. Please feel free to clout;onhEad for stating the obvious solution if you've already discounted it for some reason.

JT

>Ed: > > The next-hop ; n>long as it is reachable in the routing table (recursive routes). >With that in mi;yo>and let that provide the redundancy for you. > > Let me know if this works... ;Ru> >ON Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 04:18:22PM -0500, Edward Henigin said: > > Hi gents, > > > > I'm looking at a network confi;ti> > he'd be using policy routing to push some traffic out through us, > > and some traffic out thr; a> > > > The essense of the design gives our customer policy-based > > load balancing. Some tra; t> > guy. What we're trying to figure out now is how to wrap redundancy > > into the equ;n.> > > > > > backbone A backbone B > > \ / > > \ / > > ;36> > > > | > > internal > > network > > > > > > From what I understand;ut> > that you set must be a directly connected router. (The policy- > > routing cisco just;wr> > must be adjacent.) > > > > I'm just trying to figure out how to do the polic;ut> >> > next-hop, or something, based on reachability ;he> > > > The best thing I can think of is to have a script somewhere > > that would go in and delete the policy;ti> > the remote gateway becomes unreachable ... > > > > yuck. > > > > Thoughts? > >-- >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-;=-> Russell Briggs V 512-474-; >> FreeMe.Com, Inc. ; > russb@quadrunner.com www.freeme.com

From russb@puffer.qu;nnReceived: from someone claiming to be puffer.quadrunner.com (root@puffer.quadrunner.com;5. by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23784 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 180;13 (envelReceived: (from russb@l;ho by Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 ;7:From: Russell Briggs <russb@puffer.quadrunner.com> To: John Todd <jtodd@loligo.com> Cc: ed@datafoundry.net, cisco;@pSubject: Re: [nsp] failover with policy routing? Message-ID: <20000417155746.B26510@puffer.quadrunner.com> ;reContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <v04210122b5213fd0dcb8@[;16

Ah, I too read somewhere that the next-hop didn';veadjacent. Though I've never tried to do anything like this, it evidentally won't work.

The only problem with us;BGis that I believe Ed is trying to do port-based policy routes, ie. send all traffi;thI don't know of many ways to accomplish this while incorporating redund; i

-Russ

On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 06:37:58PM -0400, John Todd said: > > I don't think this is correct. I;ed> ago with cache redirection, and hit the wall with > non-directly-connected next-hop locat;. > since the manual clearly states 'next-hop does not need to be > directly connected' (this is;ap> have it next to me.) They contacted the developer for that code > section and he sai;ho> connected." > > If either of you can tell me that next-hop can be made to;k > nOn-adjacent hosts (i.e. layer 3 re-write instead of layer 2) I'd be > eternally grateful because that would solve ;e > > Ed, to answer your question directly: WCCP is the only thing that I > know of that can cause layer 2 ;ri> during failure modes in the instances of which you're speaking. If > you're looking for;or> may be) solution, use BGP and then weight the paths with localpref or > ; o> dynamic, but does provide failover abilit with the localprefs of only a few AS'es is all you need to make the > of AS path-length as a preferred metric, but since you're talking > about using n> is as good as another. ;) > > Upon re-re very obvious answer - so obvious that I must be mis-reading this > s> head for stating the obvious solution if you've already discounted it > for some reason. > > JT > ; >> > > > The next-hop does not have to be on a connected subnet, as > >long as it is reachable in the routing table (re;iv> >With that in mind, you can set the next-hop to a dynamic route, > >and let that provide the > > > >-Russ > > > >On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at> > ; g>> > > I'm looking at a network configuration for a customer where > > > he'd be using policy routing to push ; t> > > and some traffic out through another backbone provider. > > > > > > The essense of the desig;ve> > > load balancing. Some traffic through us, some through the other > > > guy. What we're ;ng> > > into the equation. I just don't see it. > > > > > > > > > backbone; b> > > \ / > > > \ / > > > 3640 > > > | > > > ;> > > > network > > > > > > > > > From what I understand about policy routing, the 'next ; >> > > routing cisco just re-writes the layer 2 header; t> > > must be adjacent.) > > > > > > I'm just trying to figure out how to do the policy routing > > > under s;so> > > next-hop, or something, based on reachability of the next-hop. > ;> > > > that would go in and delete the policy routing conf;at > > the remote gateway becomes unreachable ... > > > > > > yuck. > > > > > > Thoughts?

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>Ah, I too read somewhere that th;xt>adjacent. Though I've never tried to do anything like this, >it evidentally won't work. > >The on;ro>is that I believe Ed is trying to do port-based policy routes, ie;en>I don't know of many ways to accomplish this while inco;at>reDundancy into the equation.

Ah - I didn't see any explicit "why" in the document; just that policy-routing was be;us

GeOrge Robbins I think has the right idea in his followup - use multiple next-hops and make the first one the "desir;pacourse, this implies that the next-hops can go "down" and their next-hop entry correspondingly removed from the ;e.connections between backbone A or B to the 3640 are on ethernet, the chances that the link will go "down" are s;ctreally likes to stay up/up even though packets can't make it across, and if the interface shows up phys;lystays valid. If these were serial (PPP/HDLC/POS) connections that would probably be a better b;yokeeping the next-hop IP address "alive."

I tried doing something similar to this a w; anext-hops but that was a crash-and-burn for a number of reasons; I can't remember if it was failure ;unif it was that the standard tunnelling that Cisco uses always shows as "up/up" even though;rt11.1, anyone know if tunnel state is now tied to actual ability of tunnel ends to s;acVLAN?)

JT

>-Russ > >On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 06:37:58PM -04> > > > since the manual clearly states 'next-hop doe;t > > directly connected' (this is paraphrased from the manual - I don't > > have it next to me.) They contacted; d> > section and he said "Whoops! Typo! Yes, it does need to be directly > > connected." > > > > If;he> > non-adjacent hosts (i.e. layer 3 re-write instead of layer 2;d > > Eternally grateful because that would solve quite a few kludges. > > > > Ed, to answer your question directly: WCCP;th> > know of that can cause layer 2 re-writes or passthroughs to change > > during failure modes in the;ta> > you're looking for a more elegant (or horribly more ugly, as the case > > may be) s;io> > some other method. This will require tuning by hand and isn't ; >> > with the localprefs of only a few AS'es is all; n> > traffic "more-or-less" balanced. Granted, you break the whole point > > of AS path-length as a prefer;me> > about using next-hop to break it anyway, I figure one broken choice > > is as good as a;er>> > Upon re-reading this whole document, I find that "use BGP" is the > > very obvious answer - so obvious that ;st> > somehow, but I don't see where. Please feel free to clout me on the > > head for stating the obv; s> > for some reason. > > > > JT > > > > > > >Ed: > > > > > > The next-hop does not;e > > >long as it is reachable in the routing table (recursive routes). > > >With that in mi;yo> > >and let that provide the redundancy for you. > > > > > > Let me know if th;or>> > >-Russ > > > > > >On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 04:18:22PM -0500, Edward Henigin said: > > > > Hi gents, > > > >; >> > > > he'd be using policy routing to push some traffic ;th> > > > and some traffic out through another backbone provider. > > > > > > > > The essense of the design gives; c> > > > load balancing. Some traffic through us, some through the other > > > > guy. What we're try;to> > > > into the equation. I just don't see it. > > > > > > > > > > > > bac;e > > > > \ / > > > > \ / > > > > 3640 > > > > | > > ; > > > > internal > > > > network > > > > > > > > > > > > From what I understand about p;y > > > > that you set must be a directly connected router. (The policy- > > > > routing cisco just;wr> > > > must be adjacent.) > > > > > > > > I'm just trying to figure out how to ;he> > > > under some sort of conditional scenario, or dynamically set the > > > > next-hop, or something, ba;on> > > > > > > > The best thing I can think of is to have a script somewhere > > > > that w; g> > > > the remote gateway becomes unreachable ... > > > > > > > > yu;> >

From ed@texas.net M;prReceived: from someone claiming to be mw3.texas.net (mw3.texas.net [206.127.30.13]) by puck.nether.ne;.9 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:54:51 -0400 (envelope-from ed@texa;t)Received: from staff2.texas.net (staff2.texas.net [207.207.0.39]) ; m id SAA22036; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:54:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from ed@localhost) by s;2.Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:54:31 -0500 From: Edw;HeTo: John Todd <jtodd@loligo.com> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] failover with;icMessage-ID: <20000417185431.L15029@datafoundry.net> References: <20000417161821.J15029@datafoundry.net> <200004;56Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset;asX-MAiler: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <v04210122b5213fd0dcb8@[172.16.2.77]>; from jtodd@loligo.com on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at ;7:

We want to policy route so we can push (for example) http traffic through one link and all other traffic thro;thlayer 4 routing vs. layer 3 routing. That's why BGP won't work.

Thanks for the info, tho.

Ed

-- On Mon, Apr; 2> > I don't think this is correct. I tried to make this work some time > ago w;ca> non-directly-connected next-hop locations. I called Cisco about it, > since th;nu> directly connected' (this is paraphrased from the manual - I don't > h;it> section and he said "Whoops! Typo! Yes, it does need to be d;tl> coNnected." > > If either of you can tell me that next-hop can be made to work on > non-adjacent hosts (i.e. layer ;-w> eternally grateful because that would solve quite a few kludges. > > Ed, to answer you;es> know of that can cause layer 2 re-writes or passthroughs to change > duri;ai> you're looking for a more elegant (or horribly more ugly, as ;ca> mAy be) solution, use BGP and then weight the paths with localpref or > some other method. This will require tunin; h> dynamic, but does provide failover ability. I've found that fooling > with the localprefs of only ;w > traffic "more-or-less" balanced. Granted, you break the whole point > of AS path-le; a> about using next-hop to break it anyway, I figure one broken choice > i; g> > Upon re-reading this whole document, I find that "use BGP" is the > very obvious answer - so obv; t> somehow, but I don't see where. Please feel free to clout me on the > head for stating; o> for some reason. > > JT

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Check out Netflow Policy Based Routing (NPR). It's not only faster (flow enhanced feature with more pps), bu; unext-hop is active. Not the best way to work a fail-over, but better than before.

http://www.;o.t/120t3/policyrt.htm

NPR would work in the topology below (as;ngwith CDP turned on).

Barry

> -----Original Message----- > From: George Robbins [mailto:grr@s;ak> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 3:29 PM > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; ed@datafoundry.net > Subject: Re: ;] > > > You can specify multiple next-hops and it will use the first one > that there's a usua;ro> next-hops needs to know how to do the "right thing". I'm not sure > what happe;f > the destination as unreachable would be good, in others simply not > ;ri> > Having a 2nd next-hop to a loopback might be an explict way of;cc> > George > > > Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:18:22 -0500 > > Fr;Ed> > To: Cisco Gurus <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> > > Subject: [nsp] failo> >  > Hi gents, > > > > I'm looking at a network configuration for a cus> > and some traffic out through another backbone provider. > > > > The essense of the de; g> > load balancing. Some traffic through us, some through the other > > guy. What we're t;g > > into the equation. I just don't see it. > > > > > > backbone A back; B> > \ / > > 3640 > > | > > | > > i;na> > > > > > From what I understand about policy routing, the 'next hop' > > that you set must be;ir> > routing cisco just re-writes the layer 2 header, so the next-hop > > must be adj;t.>> > under some sort of conditional scenario, or dyna;ll> > next-hop, or something, based on reachability of the next-hop. > > > > The best thing I can think of is to ; a> > that would go in and delete the policy routing configuration if > > the remote gateway becomes unrea;le>  > > yuck. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > >

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Then ;is

> -----Original Message----- > From: Edward Henigin [mailto:ed@datafoundry.net] > Sent: Monday, April 17,;0 > To: John Todd > Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: [nsp] failover with policy routing? > > > We wan; p> traffic through one link and all other traffic through the other. > layer ;ut> > Thanks for the info, tho. > > Ed > > -- > On Mon, Apr 17, 20;t > > > > I don't think this is correct. I tried to make this work some time > > ago wi;ac> > non-directly-connected next-hop locations. I called Cisco about it, > > since; m> > directly connected' (this is paraphrased from the manual - I don't;> > > section and he said "Whoops! Typo! Yes, it does nee; b> > connected." > > > > If either of you can tell me that next-hop can be made to work on > > non-adjacent h; (> > eternally grateful because that would solve quite a few kludges. > >;> > > know of that can cause layer 2 re-writes or passt;gh> > during failure modes in the instances of which you're speaking. If > > you're looking for a more elegan;r > > may be) solution, use BGP and then weight the paths with localpref or > > some other;ho> > dynamic, but does provide failover ability. I've found that fool; >> > traffic "more-or-less" balanced. Granted, you;ak> > of AS path-length as a preferred metric, but since you're talking > > about using n> > is as good as another. ;) > > > > Upon> > very obvious answer - so obvious that I must be mis-reading this > > somehow, but I don't see where. Pl; f> > head for stating the obvious solution if you've already discounted it > > for some reaso; >> > >

From rodrigo.loureir;tsReceived: from someone claiming to be nsrjo4.netstream.com.br ([200.244.82.19]) ;uc for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:30:52 -0400 (enve;-fReceived-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:30:52 -0400 Received: by nsrjo4 with Internet Ma;er id <2VK9ZG8N>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:24:44 -0300 Message-ID: <F12A0EB611C0D21193BB00105A18482529B412@nsrj;FrTo: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Cc: "Loureiro, Rodrigo" <rodrigo;reDate: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:24:18 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0);te charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [nsp] Asynchronous E1

Hi,;uaway that a router can map time-slots into serial inter;s.operation generate an overhead of one time-slot used by CAS/CCS = signaling. The point is: I would like to u;y mode (and the line too), in such a way that i could use the 32 time-slots, = but I think ;ouserial. Does anyone know if i can use Cisco 3620 E1 port in asynchrTo routing data?

Regards, --

Rodrigo Loureiro Netstream Telecom (AT&TReceived: from someone claiming to be gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk (gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.16]) ;pu for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:45:16 -0400 (env;e-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:45:16 -0400 Received: from sunf0.rd.bbc.co.uk (ddmailgate.rd.;co by gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA09206; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:44:51 +0100 (BST) ;ivReceived: from sunf25 by sunf25.rd.bbc.co.;TuX-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Loureiro, Rodrigo" <rodrigo.loureiro@nets;m.Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] Asynchronous E1 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 1;:1 <F12A0EB611C0D21193BB00105A18482529B412@nsrjo4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: teMime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 18 Apr 200Message-Id: <24008.956083480;nfFroM: Simo;ti

s/asynchronous/unframed/

No, I don't think you can do this. For all our E1's we use external DS

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Actually;cabut how can i route data through this interface?

-----Mensagem ;inDe: Robert Kiessling [mailto:Robert.Kiessling@de.easynet.net] Enviada em: Ter=E7a-feira, 18 de Abril de 2000 16:210;a:Assunto: Re: [nsp] Asynchronous E1=20

Simon Lockhart wr;: mode to > >routing data? >=20 > s/asynchronous/u;me >=2 > No, I don't think you can do this. For all our E1's we use external = DSU=20 > and a serial port (X.21).

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3640 with E1 and "clock source internal" | |;ra | 3640 with E1 in normal framed mode

Robert

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Simon Lo;rt > >Does anyone know if i can use Cisco 3620 E1 port in asynchronous mode to > >routing data? > > s/asynchron;un > > No, I don't think you can do this. For all our E1's we use external DSU > and a serial port (X.21).

Well;th

3640 with E1 and "clock source internal" | | ;am | 3640 with E1 in normal framed mode

Robert

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Loureiro, R;go > Actually, I can configure the controller to operate in unframed mode, but > how can i route d

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From alfredo@intelid;coReceived: from someone claiming to be s1.intelideas.com (s1.intelideas.com [194.145.140.10]); p for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:54:02 -0400 (en;peReceived-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:54:02 -0400 Received: from intelideas.com (intelideas-gw.;ns by s1.intelideas.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e3IJrMO24043; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:53:22 +0;(MMessage-ID: <38FCBD34.B03D6D99@intelideas.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:53:24 +0200 From: Alfredo Sola <alfredo@i;idX-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: es,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Lockhart <si;@rCC: "Loureiro, Rodrigo" <rodrigo.loureiro@netstream.com.br>, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [; AReferences: <24008.956083488@sunf25> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: ;

> >routing data?

> s/asynchronous/unframed/ ;o,> and a serial port (X.21).

I am using an NM-2CE1U ;ankbps (timeslot 0 unusable as of this hw and IOS 11.3(10)T:

controller E1; channel-group 0 timeslots 1-31 ! interface Serial0/0:0

[...]

Remember to check about clock sources. N;soclock source internal!

-- Alfredo Sola Administrador del sistema

From jesper@skriver.;TuReceived: from someone claiming to be freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:58:51 -0400 (envelop;omReceived-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:58:51 -0400 Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 10; iDate: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:58:34 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver <jesper@skr;.dTo: Loureiro, Rodrigo" <rodrigo.loureiro@netstream.com.br> Cc: "'Robert Kiessling'" <Robert.Kiessling@de.easynet.net>,; Subject: Re: [nsp] RES: [nsp] Asynchronous E1 Message-I;20References: <F12A0EB611C0D21193BB00105A18482529B415@nsrjo4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type;xtX-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <F12A0EB611C0D21193BB00105A18482529B415@nsrjo4>; from rodrigo.;ei

On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 04:30:01PM -0300, Loureiro, Rodrigo ;e:> how can i route data through this interface;es

We have several on

PA-MC-8E1 PA-4E1

on 7200/7500's

/Jesper

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From jesper@skriver.;TuReceived: from someone claiming to be freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:00:23 -0400 (envelop;omReceived-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:00:23 -0400 Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 10; iDate: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:00:06 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver <jesper@skr;.dTo: Alfredo Sola <alfredo@intelideas.com> Cc: Simon Lockhart <simonl@rd.bbc.co.uk>, "Loureiro, Rodrigo" <rodrig;ur cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] Asynchronous E1 Message-ID: <20000418220006.B;4@puck.nether.netrReferences: <24008.956083488@sunf25> <38FCBD34.B03D6D99@intelideas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/p;; X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38FCBD34.B03D6D99@intelideas.com>; from alfredo@intelideas.com on Tue;r

On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 09:53:24PM +0200, Alfredo Sola wrote: > > > >Does anyone know if i ;us> > >routing data? > > > s/asynchronous/unframed/ > > > No, I don't think y0;an> > I am using an NM-2CE1U for an E1. For i;nc> kbps (timeslot 0 unusable as of this hw and IOS 11.3(10)T: > > controller E1 0/0 > fr;g > channel-group 0 timeslots 1-31

You can also use

channel-group 0 timeslots 0-31

If it's a unstructured E1 t;el

/Jesper

-- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network managerPrivate: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) OnE IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.

From kline@uiuc.edu ; AReceived: from someone claiming to be cub.cso.uiuc.edu (root@cub.cso.uiuc.edu [130.126.113.5]) by p;ne for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:01:41 -0400 (envelope;m Received-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:01:41 -0400 Received: from tailwind (tailwind.cso.uiuc.edu [130.126.113;) for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:01:23 -0500;T)To: "Cisco NSP List" <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:01:23 -0; MContent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1";teX-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.241;.0Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [nsp] Anyone done a lot with; w

Hi, we're thinking about switching into L3 switching via MLS on our routed core. (7200's) that right now are doing t

The Cisco dox are;asforth on this thing, so I thought I'd turn to experience for some answe; 1yes, some things say no.

2. Does an input access;t network? The same Cisco document says two different things in two differen;ac

3. What's with this requirement that the MLS router know and join the VTP domain of the switch?

4. (I thi; kat a router explicitly in order for it to stcache? Can one router serve multiple switches so that cut-through ca

Any good/bad t; fthe routing agent?

Thanks in advance for any wisdom.

-- Charle;inData Communications Architect ;21Computing and Communications Services Office University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

From deepak@ai.net ;ApReceived: from someone claiming to be aries.ai.net (aries.ai.net [205.134.163.4]) by puck.nether.net;9. Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:09:18 -0400 (envelope-from deepak@ai.net) Received-Date: Tue, 18 Ap;00Received: from localhost (deepak@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16618; Tue, 1;r (envelope-from deepak@ai.net) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:08:47 -0400 (EDT) From:To: Jack Seo <jackseo@npix.net> cc: Cisco Users <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.Subject: Re: [ns;IPIn-Reply-To: <NDBBJEOFGLIHFDPOJICNAEPPCAAA.jackseo@npix.net> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.00;16MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

If you are talking up the ;albouncing, you may want to try moving the serial port to an unused one on the sam;rd

It Could be a bad port.

Deepak Jain AiNET

On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Jack Seo wrote:

> > Hi, Guys > > I'm using VIP2-5;d > and this IOS version is 11.1.30 cc . but these days these machines a;ot> Its one of 4 serial interfaces ( atually I'm using just one serial port) is repeating down and up , two or ;e > There is no special reason to cause this, I'm sure. > > You guys did you ever heard that VIP2-50 has ;pr> > If you did, do you know any idea to solve this problem exactly>

From rodrigo.loureir;tsReceived: from someone claiming to be nsrjo4.netstream.com.br ([200.244.82.19]) ;uc for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:15:32 -0400 (enve;-fReceived-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:15:32 -0400 Received: by nsrjo4 with Internet Ma;er id <2VK9ZHPN>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:09:30 -0300 Message-ID: <F12A0EB611C0D21193BB00105A18482529B416@nsrj;FrTo: "'Robert Kiessling'" <Robert.Kiessling@de.easynet.net>, ; Cc: Simon Lockhart <simonl@rd.bbc.co.uk>, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.ne;teMIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain;;arContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [nsp] RES: [nsp] Asynchronous E1

Ok, I thought that;f the framing, but i was wrong. Actually this command turns on the default co;ur

-----Mensagem original----- De: Robert Kiessling [mailto:Robert.Kiessling@de.easynet.net];iaPara: Loureiro, Rodrigo Cc: Simon Lockhart; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Assu; R

Loureiro, Rodrigo writes: > Actually, I can configure the controller to operate in unframe;mo > how can i route data through this interface?

Oh, which IOS version is this? Up to and including 12.0 it is not

BObert

From jesper@skriver.;TuReceived: from someone claiming to be freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by ;.n Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:16:26 -0400 (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Receiv0;at id 20D333E42; Tue, 18 Apr 2;22Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:16:09 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver <jesper@skriver.dk> To: Deepak Jain <deepak0;neCc: Hack Se jared@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [n;VIMessage-ID: <20000418221609.A32955@skriver.dk> References: <NDBBJEOFGLIHFDPOJICNAEPPCAAA.0;seMime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us;iiIn-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004181608110.22073-100000@aries.ai.net>; from deepak@ai.net on Tue, Ap;,

On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 04:08:47PM -0400, Deepak Jain wrote: > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Jack Seo wr; > > Hi, Guys > > > > I'm using VIP2-50 and PA-4por Serial interface together . of cource RSP4 > > and this IOS ve;n > > Its one of 4 serial interfaces ( atually I'm using ju;ne> > There is no special reason to cause this, I'm ;. >> > >0;f > > If you are talking up the serial port bouncing and not ;IP> bouncing, you may want to try moving the serial port to an unused one on > the same card.

Or perhaps a bad link ...

/Jesper

-- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriWork: Network m;erPrivate: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-)

One Unix to rule them;, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.

From deepak@ai.net ;ApReceived: from someone claiming to be aries.ai.net (aries.ai.net [205.134.163.4]) by puck.nether.net;9. Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:26:19 -0400 (envelope-from deepak@ai.net) Received-Date: Tue, 18 Ap;00Received: from localhost (deepak@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01512; Tue, 1;r (envelope-from deepak@ai.net) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:25:58 -0400 (EDT) From:To: Jack Seo <jackseo@ibrglobal.com> cc: Cisco Users <cisco-nsp@puck.neSubject: RE;spIn-Reply-To: <NDBBJEOFGLIHFDPOJICNCEACCBAA.jackseo@ibrglobal.com> Message-ID: <Pine.B0;.2Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

What is your sys;lo

Deepak

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Jack Seo wrote:

> > Thank you for response. > > Bad port ? > > Well, I don't ;k > :) , but still the same prob;is> I think, this problem might come from the discord between VIP2-50 and PA-4port Serial interface , also I;> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deepak Jain [mailto:deepak@ai.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 5:0; >> Cc: Cisco Users; jared@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: [nsp] VIP2-50 & PA-4port Searial problem > > > > ;ou> bouncing, you may want to try moving the serial port;an> the same card. > > It could be a bad port. > > Deepak Jain > AiNET > > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Jack Seo;te>  > > Hi, Guys > > > > I'm using VIP2-50 and PA-4por Serial interface together . of cource RSP4 > > and this IOS;si> > Its one of 4 serial interfaces ( atually I'm using;t > > There is no special reason to cause this, I;ur> >> > You guys did you ever heard that VIP2-50 has any problem when working with PA - 4port Serial Interfaces ? > >;> > > > > > > >

From niels@euro.net ; AReceived: from someone claiming to be venus.euro.net (venus.euro.net [194.134.0.9]) by puck.nether.;(8 for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:34:45 -0400 (envelope-from niels;o.ReCeived-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:34:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by venus.euro.net (8.8.8/8;) for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:34:27 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 2;:2From: Niels Bakker <niels@euro.net> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] Asynchronous E1 In-0;y-X-NCC-RegID: nl.euronet MI;erContent-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Jesper Skriver skrev:

>> controller E1 0/0 >> framing NO-CRC4 >> ;ne> > You can also use > > channel-group 0 timeslots 0-31 > > If it's a unstructured E1 the te;pr

What about

channel-group 0 unframed

?

-- Niels (connecting his first customer this way but right now ther;em

From jesper@skriver.;TuReceived: from someone claiming to be freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by ;.n for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:55:23 -0400 (envelop;omReceived-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:55:23 -0400 Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (PostfixDate: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:To: Niels Bakker <niels@euro.net> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] Asynchronous E1 Message-ID: <2000041;50References: <20000418220006.B32884@skriver.dk> <1000418223258.15972A-100000@venus.euro.net> Mime-Vers; 1ContEnt-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <1000418223258.15972A-100000@venus.euro.n; f

On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 10:34:27PM +0200, Niels Bakker wrote:0;es> >> channel-group 0 timeslots 1-31 > > > > You can a;us > channel-group 0 timeslots 0-31 > > > > If it's a unstructured E1 the telco provide. > > What about > > ch;l-

You're right, in a 12.1(1a) router

router(config)#controller e1 1/7 router(config-controller)#ch router;fi timeslots List of timeslots in the channel group unframed Unframed in the channel g;

^ % Invalid ;t

router(config-controller)#

I'm quite sure I've been able to do this, and it probably changed it;un

/Jesper

-- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: ;etPrivate: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-)

One Unix ;ulOne IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.

From rodrigo.loureir;tsReceived: from someone claiming to be nsrjo4.netstream.com.br ([200.244.82.19]) ;uc for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:06:01 -0400 (enve;-fReceived-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:06:01 -0400 Received: by nsrjo4 with Internet Ma;er id <2VK9ZHVJ>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:00:01 -0300 Message-ID: <F12A0EB611C0D21193BB00105A18482529B417@nsrj;FrTo: "'Jesper Skriver'" <jesper@skriver.dk>, Alfredo So; <Cc: Simon Lockhart <simonl@rd.bbc.co.uk>, "Loureiro, Rodrigo" <rodrigo.loureiro@netstrea;m. Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:58:26 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Ser; (Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [nsp] RES;sp

I think if we are operating in unframed mode, the medium become asynchronous, so we can=B4t do the mapp;suthere isn=B4t any time-slots.

-----Mensagem original----- De: Jesper Skriver [mailto:jesper@skri;dkPara: Alfredo Sola Cc: Simon Lockhart; Loureiro, Rodrigo; cisco-nsp;k.Assunto: Re: [nsp] Asynchronous E1

On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 09:53:24PM +0200, Alfredo Sola wrote: >=20 > > >Do;nymode to > > >routing data? >=20 > > s/asynchronous/unframed/ >=; >DSU > > and a serial port (X.21). >=20 > I am usin; Nyou 1984 > kbps (timeslot 0 unusable as of this hw and IOS 11.3(10)T;20> framing NO-CRC4 > channel-group 0 timeslots 1-31

You can also use

channel-group 0 timeslots 0; I

/Jesper

--=20 Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: ;etPrivate: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-)

One Unix ;ulOne IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.

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On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:44:48 +0100 Si;Lo

No you can't with the 3620 ports- you can with the 7000 PA-MC-8E1 though.

> >Does a;e > >routing data? > > s/asynchronous/unframed/ > > No, I don;hi> and a serial port (X.21). > > Simon > -- > Simon Lockhart ; > Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 > BBC Inter;Se> Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bb;.u> >

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On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:58:34 +0200 ;pe

> On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 04:30:01PM -0300, Loureiro, Rodrigo wrote: > > Actually, I; c> > how can i route data through this interface?

on the 3600 int;cethere was though!!!

> > Yes, given it's a unstructured E1 the telco provide; >> > PA-MC-8E1 > PA-4E1 > > on 7200/7500's > > /Jesper > > -- > Jesper Skriver, j> Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetwork> > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, > One IP to bring them all and in the zone to ; t>

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On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:09:04 -0300 "Loureiro, Rodrigo" <rodrigo.l;ir

on a 7206 with pa-mc-8e1 you use:

channel group 0 unframed - this option does

> Ok, I thought that conf t/cont e1 */no framing command could disabl> configuration, i mean, the CRC framing. > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Robert Kiessli;ma> Enviada em: Tera-feira, 18 de Abril de 2000 16:45 > Para: Loureiro, Rodrigo > Cc:;on> Assunto: RES: [nsp] Asynchronous E1 > > > Loureiro, Rodrigo writes: > > Actuall; c> > how can i route data through this interface? > > Oh, wh;IO> possible. > > Robert >

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On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:55:06 +0200 Jesper Skriver <je;@s

on a 3600? I don't think so.

Neil.

> You're right, in a 12.1(1a) router > > router(config)#controlle; 1> roUter(config-controller)#ch > router(config-controller)#channel-group 0 ? > timeslots List of timeslots in the ch;l >> > router(config-controller)#channel-group 0 timeslots 0-31 > ; > % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. > > router(config-controller)# > > I;ui> changed it to unframed, but my memory might serve me wrong .. > > /;er> - > Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 > Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark Data;or> PRivate: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) > > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find t; >>

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From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32106 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004182245.SAA32106@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA31429; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:30:04 -0400 (envelope-fr;isDate: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:30:04 -0400 X-From_: robert@easynet.de Tue Apr 18 18:30:03 2000;ei doncamillo.local.easynet.de (gw2.Muenchen1.easynet.de [212.224.33.122]) by puck.nether; ( for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:30:03 -0400 (envelope-from robe;asReceived-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:30:03 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by doncamillo.local.easynet.de ;.3 Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:29:39 +0200 From: Robert Kiessling <Robert.Kiessling@de.easynet.net> Message-ID:;58Old-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:29:39 +0200 (MEST) To: "Neil J. McRae" <n;COCc: Jesper Skriver <jesper@skriver.dk>, "Loureiro, Rodrigo" <rodrigo.loureiro@netstream.com.br>, S; LSubject: Re: [nsp] RES: [nsp] Asynchronous E1 In-Reply-To: <2000;22References: <20000418215834.A32884@skriver.dk> <200004182202.XAA16283@NetBSD.noc.COLT.NE2;-MX-NCC-RegID: de.easynet Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-; 1ConTent-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: cisco-nsp Resent-From: ;d@NetBSD.noc.COLT.NE2Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:45:33 -0400 Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Neil J. McRae writes: ; T > Jesper Skriver <jesper@skriver.dk> wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 04:30:01PM ;0, > > > Actually, I can configure the controller to operate in unframed mode, but > > > how can ;ut > > on the 3600 interfaces there is no option to run unframed! I wish > there was thoug;

controller E1 x/y channel-group 1 timeslots 1-31 clock source internal

work, with the other side config

Robert

From simonl@rd.bbc.c; Received: from someone claiming to be gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk (gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.16]) ;pu for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:54:26 -0400 (env;e-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:54:26 -0400 Received: from sunf0.rd.bbc.co.uk (ddmailgate.rd.;co by gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA19064; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:53:10 +0100 (BST) ;ivReceived: from sunf25 by sunf25.rd.bbc.co.;TuX-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Robert Kiessling <Robert.Kiessling@de.easy;neCc: Neil J. McRae" <neil@COLT.NET>, Jesper Skriver <jesper@skriver.dk>, "Loureiro, Rodrigo" <rodrigo.loureiro@;tr cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [nsp] RES: [nsp] Asynchronous E1 In-Reply-To: Your message of;e, <14588.57811.754969.893888@doncamillo.local.easynet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Conten;peDate: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:53:07 +0100 Message-Id: <26218.956098387@sunf25> From: Simon Lock; <

>Why, doesn't > >controller E1 x/y > channel-group 1 timeslots 1-31 > clock source internal > >wor;it

It would, but that'd be framed, not unframed, and you'd only get 31*64k = 1984kbp;th

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On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:29:3;20 Robert Kiessling <Robert.Kiessling@de.easynet.net> wrote:

> Why, doesn't > > controller E1 x/y > channel-gr;1 > clock source internal > > work, with the other side configured as framed? >

That does work - but you;ll

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Anyone d;an

I'm trying to get my sup3 to tag packets as 802.1q on a gigabit uplink port and play;e

However, 'set vlan mapping' doesn't seem to do what I think it does:

set vlan mapping ;q set trunk 1/1 on dot1q 1-1005

would make trunk 1/1 speak vlan 10 via 802.1q with vlanid of 1010? it doesn't ; t

Any help would be appreciated.

-- nicholas harteau nrh@ikami.com

From jt@jumbo.surfar;t Received: from someone claiming to be mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240];y for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:08:00 -0400 (e;opReceived-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:08:00 -0400 Received: from jtide (adsl-63-196-194-84.dsl.s;1. by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FTA00B74LV7UR;6. cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:05:23 -070;omTo: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-id: <009601bfaa6c$e40fe4e0$0611fea9@jtide> MIME-;ioX-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-e;inX-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 Subject: [nsp] Ano; C

I have been running with one Class C on my 2501 and am going to attach another Class C, is there anything special ;ed'announce' this IP Block to my router? Or is there a tutorial somewhere that I can be directed to in o; ttechnique?

Thanks in advance!

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On Wed, Apr 19, 2000;03> > However, 'set vlan mapping' doesn't seem to do what I think it does: > > set;n > set trunk 1/1 on dot1q 1-1005

IMHO, right command here would be

set trunk 1/1 on dot1q 1-4; sright?)

The idea behind this is that 802.1q has V;idremember, and you are not allowing VLAN that you've just mapped. Actually I don't see why in; fis used for vice versa - when you have 802.1q VLAN number that is l2;r 100 - in

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You don't "announce it" you just config it on one of the inte;esaddress.

Barry

At 07:05 PM 4/19/00 -0700, Jim Tin;wr>I>another Class C, is there anything special I;d >'announce' this IP Block to my router? Or is there a tutorial somewhere >that I can be directed to in ;r >technique? > >Thanks in advance! > >

From jared@puck.neth;etReceived: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA28907 for cisco-nsp@p;ne (envelope-from jared) Resent-Message-Id: <200004201246.IAA28907@puck.nether.net;ce by puck.nether.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24415; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:47:36 -0400 (envelope-fr;isDate: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:47:36 -0400 X-From_: doka@kiev.sovam.com Thu Apr 20 02:47:35 20;ec relay.kiev.sovam.com (mail@relay.kiev.sovam.com [212.109.32.5]) by puck.nether.net (;3/ for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:47:34 -0400 (envelope-from doka@kiev.;m.ReCeived-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:47:34 -0400 Received: from doka.kiev.sovam.com ([212.109.32.15]) by relay.kiev.so;co id 12iAk7-000AOo-00 for cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:47:15 +0300 Old-Date:;, From: Vladimir Litovka <doka@kiev.sovam.com> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <;.LX-NCC-RegID: ua.svitonline Organization: http://www.tekmetrics.com/t;crMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Env;e-Resent-From: jared@puck.nether.net Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:46:22 -0400 Resent-To: cisco-nsp@puck.ne;.nSubjEct: [nsp] ISDN incoming calls

Hello,

Do I need to configure and use Dialer interface for incoming ISDN data co;ti for accepting incoming calls? For example:

isdn switch-; p! interface Serial0:15 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0 encapsulation ppp no ip directed-broadcast isdn switch-; p isdn incoming-voice modem peer default ip address pool default ppp authentication pap no cdp enable !

As;nd it is need to accept incoming ISDN calls.

Thank you.; . Phone/Fax: +380 44 2351511 . ICQ/none, talk/none ;)

From baur@smaragd.no;n.Received: from someone claiming to be obsidian.noc.dfn.de (obsidian.noc.dfn.de [193.174.247;]) for <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:22:58 -040;enReceived-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:22:58 -0400 Received: from smaragd.noc.dfn.de (sma;.n by obsidian.noc.dfn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00593; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:22:37 +020;ETREceived: (from baur@localhost) by smaragd.noc.dfn.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA03146; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:22:37 +0200 (;DSMessAge-ID: <20000420152236.H2882@noc.dfn.de> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:22:36 +0200 From: Steffen Baur <baur@noc.dfn.de;: Subject: Re: [nsp] ISDN incoming calls References: <Pine;.4Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: M;0.In Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0004200933470.558-100000@doka.kiev.sovam.com>; from Vladimir Litovka on T

Vladimir,

On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 02:47:36AM -0400, Vladimir > Hello, > > Do I need to c;gu> connections? Or it is enought to setup SerialX:15 exactly as Group-A; >

Just a few days ago I've had to learn that Cisco IOS sends packets to a dial interface o;ifpresent. Without a dialer-group statement, an incoming call will accepted, a ppp session; hforwarded.

Steffen

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On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Steffen Baur wrote:

> Vladimir, > > On Thu, Apr 20, ; a> > Hello, > > > > Do I need to configure and use Dialer interface for incom;IS> > connections? Or it is enought to setup SerialX:15 exactly as Group-Async > > for accepting incoming calls? ; J> a dial interface only if there's a dialer-group sta;nt> accepted, a ppp session and host route established b;o > forwarded. Definitely. Router needs information about binding of specific user to specific configuration.

Y;av

"Legacy" - writing "dialer map" statements on D-channel interface for all clients "Dia; - with "dialer pool-member" command "Virtual" - creat;vi and AAA-server supplied information for clones creating.

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Does anyone have a pointer t;foof the Cisco 3500XL series switches? The boss-man wants to get a bunch of these an;n'"better"...

George

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Hello,

I'm running a BGP peering point with 20+ pe; Ieach of the neighbors is small. All prefixes heard from peers are being fi;ed"protected" from being swamped by large amounts of peers.

To "protect" it even further, I have "maximu;efset for each of the neighbors.

So far so good; however, I also have "soft-reconfiguration inbound" for each of th;ig(mainly, distribute lists). In a painful way, I have learned that maximum-prefix;s that go into the "soft" table - just the number that is actually accepted. So, if a few p;su(for example), or even larger tables (our of sheer cluelessness), the router may be swa; w

Is there *any* way to protect a router against clueless BGP "flooding", when soft-reconfiguration in;d I would have thought there should be *some* way of limiting the number of "received" prefixes.

The box is a 7; c

Thanks! Doron Shikmoni



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