RE: [nsp] trouble setting up a T3 crossover

From: Martin, Christian (cmartin@gnilink.net)
Date: Tue Mar 27 2001 - 22:57:29 EST


> Tried that one - it made no difference. TAC have suggested
> 75ohn attenuators
> on a very similiar bug we had so I'm trying them shortly.

This has worked as well for me. Also, you may try setting the dsu-mode to
kentrox, but I believe that is the default.

regards,
chris

>
> Cheers
> Al
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin, Christian" <cmartin@gnilink.net>
> To: "'Alastair Pooley'" <apooley@star.net.uk>;
> <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:58 PM
> Subject: RE: [nsp] trouble setting up a T3 crossover
>
>
> > Try setting the cable length to something that matches the physical
> length.
> >
> > ./chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alastair Pooley [mailto:apooley@star.net.uk]
> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [nsp] trouble setting up a T3 crossover
> >
> >
> > I've had a similar problem with PA-T3+ in a live environment. We had
> PA-T3+
> > connected to PA-T3+ in 7200's over an unclocked 45MB
> circuit. Set one end
> to
> > clock source internal the other to clock source line. We
> then get CRC's
> and
> > line code violations exactly as you describe.
> >
> > We had a batch of 20 cards and not all them seem to exhibit
> the problem -
> > we've commisioned new circuits, seen this problem and successfully
> resolved
> > it by swapping the cards. Here's an example of one while at
> fault. Don't
> > know if anyone else can shed any light on this one, but I
> thought the
> added
> > info might help.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Al
> >
> > Serial2/0 is up, line protocol is up
> > Hardware is M1T-T3 pa
> > Description: 45MB to telehouse:Tanet:D3AA12330:LI55
> > Internet address is 212.125.78.245/30
> > MTU 4470 bytes, BW 44210 Kbit, DLY 200 usec,
> > reliability 255/255, txload 10/255, rxload 23/255
> > Encapsulation HDLC, crc 32, loopback not set
> > Keepalive set (10 sec)
> > Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
> > Last clearing of "show interface" counters 6d05h
> > Queueing strategy: fifo
> > Output queue 0/40, 633 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
> > 5 minute input rate 4072000 bits/sec, 834 packets/sec
> > 5 minute output rate 1817000 bits/sec, 836 packets/sec
> > 164657131 packets input, 1797374398 bytes, 0 no buffer
> > Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
> > 0 parity
> > 2905 input errors, 2350 CRC, 0 frame, 31 overrun, 0
> ignored, 524
> abort
> > 203802811 packets output, 3993169802 bytes, 69 underruns
> > 69 output errors, 0 applique, 15 interface resets
> > 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> > 19 carrier transitions
> > rxLOS inactive, rxLOF inactive, rxAIS inactive
> > txAIS inactive, rxRAI inactive, txRAI inactive
> >
> >
> > M1T-T3 pa: show controller:
> > PAS unit 0, subunit 0, f/w version 2-56, rev ID 0x2800001, version 3
> > idb = 0x61FB2D70, ds = 0x61FB4A20, ssb=0x61FB4CF8
> > Clock mux=0x30, ucmd_ctrl=0x0, port_status=0x1
> > Serial config=0xA, line config=0x1B0202
> > maxdgram=4584, bufpool=128Kb, 256 particles
> >
> > rxLOS inactive, rxLOF inactive, rxAIS inactive
> > txAIS inactive, rxRAI inactive, txRAI inactive
> > line state: up
> > cable type : T3 cable, received clockrate 44201430
> >
> > base0 registers=0x3D000000, base1 registers=0x3D002000
> > mxt_ds=0x627DE1F8, rx ring entries=128, tx ring entries=256
> > rxring=0x722FAA0, rxr shadow=0x61FB65CC, rx_head=65
> > txring=0x722FF80, txr shadow=0x61FB6BF8, tx_head=252, tx_tail=252,
> > tx_count=0
> > throttled=0, enabled=0
> > rx_no_eop_err=0, rx_no_stp_err=0, rx_no_eop_stp_err=0
> > rx_no_buf=0, rx_soft_overrun_err=0, dump_err= 183, bogus=0,
> mxt_flags=0x2C
> > tx_underrun_err=69, tx_soft_underrun_err=37, tx_limited=0(256)
> > tx_fullring=2985, tx_started=203834272
> > Framing is c-bit, Clock Source is Internal
> > Bandwidth limit is 44210, DSU mode 0, Cable length is 20
> > rx FEBE since last clear counter 1, since reset 0
> > Data in current interval (822 seconds elapsed):
> > 9 Line Code Violations, 3 P-bit Coding Violation
> > 3 C-bit Coding Violation
> > 3 P-bit Err Secs, 0 P-bit Sev Err Secs
> > 0 Sev Err Framing Secs, 0 Unavailable Secs
> > 6 Line Errored Secs, 3 C-bit Errored Secs, 0 C-bit Sev Err Secs
> > Total Data (last 24 hours)
> > 583 Line Code Violations, 202 P-bit Coding Violation,
> > 201 C-bit Coding Violation,
> > 200 P-bit Err Secs, 0 P-bit Sev Err Secs,
> > 0 Sev Err Framing Secs, 0 Unavailable Secs,
> > 357 Line Errored Secs, 199 C-bit Errored Secs, 0 C-bit
> Sev Err Secs
> >
> > No alarms detected.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <jlewis@lewis.org>
> > To: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 6:51 AM
> > Subject: [nsp] trouble setting up a T3 crossover
> >
> >
> > > I'm trying to setup a T3 between a Cisco 7500 and 3640 in
> the same room
> > > just to get the gear tested before deploying it. The
> 7500 is using a
> > > couple of PA-2T3's. The 3640 has an NM-1HSSI and a
> Kentrox T3 IDSU.
> I've
> > > got a pair of short coax cables (maybe 4 feet) going from
> xmit to rcv
> > > between one of the PA-2T3 T3 interfaces and the IDSU.
> > >
> > > I'm having trouble getting the T3 to run 100% clean.
> After playing with
> > > lots of settings, I think I've found that the IDSU and
> and PA-2T3 don't
> > > get along with scrambling enabled. The link will work,
> but takes lots
> of
> > > errors.
> > >
> > > With the framing on each end set to c-bit, one end set to
> get clock from
> > > the line, one set to internal, and scramble off, I can
> pass lots of
> > > traffic...but I get small numbers of receive CRC errors
> on the 7500.
> > >
> > > Router#sh in s2/0/1
> > > Serial2/0/1 is up, line protocol is up
> > > Hardware is cyBus PODS3 Serial
> > > Internet address is 10.255.255.1/30
> > > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 44210 Kbit, DLY 200 usec, rely
> 255/255, load 1/255
> > > Encapsulation HDLC, crc 16, loopback not set
> > > Keepalive set (10 sec)
> > > Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
> > > Last clearing of "show interface" counters 01:12:00
> > > Queueing strategy: fifo
> > > Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
> > > 30 second input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> > > 30 second output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> > > 11311 packets input, 15123753 bytes, 0 no buffer
> > > Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
> > > 0 parity
> > > 10 input errors, 10 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0
> ignored, 0 abort
> > > 13387 packets output, 16452239 bytes, 0 underruns
> > > 0 output errors, 0 applique, 0 interface resets
> > > 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> > > 0 carrier transitions
> > > LC=up CA=down TM=down LB=down TA=down LA=down
> > >
> > > Router#sh contr ser 2/0/1
> > > Serial2/0/1 -
> > > Mx T3(2) HW Revision 0x3, FW Revision 3.9
> > > Framing is c-bit, Clock Source is Line
> > > Bandwidth limit is 44210, DSU mode 1, Cable length is 10
> > > Data in current interval (673 seconds elapsed):
> > > 2 Line Code Violations, 0 P-bit Coding Violation
> > > 0 C-bit Coding Violation
> > > 0 P-bit Err Secs, 0 P-bit Sev Err Secs
> > > 0 Sev Err Framing Secs, 0 Unavailable Secs
> > > 1 Line Errored Secs, 0 C-bit Errored Secs, 0 C-bit
> Sev Err Secs
> > > Total Data (last 4 15 minute intervals):
> > > 17 Line Code Violations, 8 P-bit Coding Violation,
> > > 8 C-bit Coding Violation,
> > > 6 P-bit Err Secs, 0 P-bit Sev Err Secs,
> > > 0 Sev Err Framing Secs, 0 Unavailable Secs,
> > > 14 Line Errored Secs, 6 C-bit Errored Secs, 0 C-bit
> Sev Err Secs
> > >
> > > No alarms detected.
> > >
> > > Configured for remote default subrate
> > >
> > > I've tried replacing the T3 cables (made a new set). It
> seems to have
> > > slightly more trouble with patterns of alternating 0's
> and 1's (0xAAAA)
> > > than the default pattern or all 0's or all 1's.
> > >
> > > Have I overlooked something?
> > >
> > > --
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