Re: Netflow question

From: Hafid Seddouki (hseddouk@cisco.com)
Date: Wed Mar 28 2001 - 16:00:27 EST


Avi,
I'm not trying to sell any product through this alias nor to bash any one. In fact, one of my conduct code is to respect products (whoever the vendor), their capabilities, and customers/users who use them. I just corrected the general, but false, statement made on the GSR.
Also it seems that you don't have the latest information on the NetFlow on the GSR. I will not provide any confidential information on Cisco products; for more assistance/info on the GSR, please contact Cisco' local sales team.
Hafid

At 04:09 PM 03/28/2001 -0500, Avi Freedman wrote:
>
>Can the new GSR actually stay up without crashing for strange reasons,
>having weird CEF (Cisco Enragement Feature) bugs, and crashing on vlan
>and filter additions or deletions?
>
>The current GSRs with current software versions can't.
>
>Oh, and can the GSRs, new or old, run VRRP with other equipment?
>
>And I'll note that Cisco can only do sampling, just as with the Junipers...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Avi
>
>> Folks,
>> Looks like NetFlow is a killer for the IP II, and someone is trying to justify it and misrepresent products from competitio. Please be aware that the GSR new line cards can do predictable full NetFlow and Sampled NetFlow,i.e. enabling NetFlow does not affect the forwarding throughput of the line card what ever feature is enabled.
>> Hafid
>>
>> At 08:07 AM 03/28/2001 -0800, Stephen Gill wrote:
>> >Rubens,
>> >Juniper refers to their Netflow equivalent as "Traffic
>> >Sampling". You can find a general summary and
>> >configuration howto in Chapters 26 and 27 at:
>> >http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos43/swconfig43-interfaces/download/swconfig-interfaces43.pdf
>> >
>> >Keep in mind that traffic sampling requires an
>> >Internet Processor II Asic. Also, you must define at
>> >what rate you want to sample your packets. If you
>> >decide to sample _every_ packet watch out for
>> >performance degradation. I haven't received an answer
>> >as to the smallest amount of sampling that can be done
>> >without affecting throughput.
>> >
>> >Boa sorte!
>> >-- steve
>> >
>> >
>> >--- "Rubens Kuhl Jr." <rkuhljr@uol.com.br> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Besides referring me to the Brazil account team
>> >> (which I already know
>> >> about), could you elaborate on the answer ? What's
>> >> the difference ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rubens Kuhl Jr.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Greg Ketell [mailto:gketell@juniper.net]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:39 PM
>> >> To: Dmitri Kalintsev; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
>> >> Subject: Re: Netflow question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best source is your local account team. They'd be
>> >> more than happy to talk
>> >> with you about it.
>> >>
>> >> Australia
>> >> Juniper Networks Australia
>> >> Limited
>> >> Level 1, 181 Miller Street
>> >> North Sydney, NSW 2060
>> >> Australia
>> >> Phone: 61-2-8913-8000
>> >> Fax: 61-2-8913-8090
>> >>
>> >> Short Answer: JNPRs support Netflow v5/v8-format
>> >> messaging to your existing
>> >> Netflow analyzers but not 7500-style netflow data
>> >> collection.
>> >>
>> >> GK
>> >>
>> >> At 01:09 AM 3/28/2001 +0200, Dmitri Kalintsev wrote:
>> >> >Good day,
>> >> >
>> >> >Sorry if this question is ignorant, but I need a
>> >> bit of information and not
>> >> >so sure where to start looking for it. What I'm
>> >> interested in particular is
>> >> >NetFlow support on juniper M's. Reason why I'm
>> >> asking is that we plan on
>> >> >re-implementing core of our network and we're
>> >> looking at different options,
>> >> >namely GSRs and Junipers. Main question for us is
>> >> to keep NetFlow
>> >> >functionality or to have its analog, which can be
>> >> easily converted into
>> >> >NetFlow format. Can anybody point me in the right
>> >> direction, where I can
>> >> >find out about NetFlow support or its analog on
>> >> Juniper routers?
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks,
>> >> >--
>> >> > CCNP, CCDP (R&S) Dmitri
>> >> E. Kalintsev
>> >> > CDPlayer@irc Network Architect @
>> >> connect.com.au
>> >> > dek @ connect.com.au phone: +61 39 674 3913
>> >> fax: 251 3666
>> >> > http://-UNAVAIL- UIN:7150410 cell: +61
>> >> 41 335 1634
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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