[a-nsp] VLAN in SNMP Interface Table
Mike Hammett
arista-nsp at ics-il.net
Tue Dec 10 09:08:22 EST 2019
Unfortunately, it looks like Arista hides that information behind a paywall.
Also, it looks like those models are overkill for what I need. It's nice to see that coming back as a feature, though.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "David Waldman" <dpwaldman at gmail.com>
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Cc: "Mike Hammett" <arista-nsp at ics-il.net>, "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn at geeks.org>, "Patrik Olsson via arista-nsp" <arista-nsp at puck.nether.net>
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Mike. Arista 7280R/R2 and 7500R/R2 series can support per port/vlan counters via Layer 2 subinterface (packets, bytes and rates). The feature TOI is here (the egress counter restriction is resolved in the latest EOS release):
https://eos.arista.com/eos-4-21-1f/l2-sub-interfaces/
L2 subinterfaces are a different config model than a trunk interface (benefiting from things like counters among others). There are also scale and feature interaction considerations (see TOI). The counters are exposed via SNMP as well.
There is also the ability to match vlan as part of a policy map for which class matches can be counted (but this is ingress only with packet wise counting):
https://eos.arista.com/eos-4-17-0f/per-port-per-vlan-qos/
There is of course sFlow for which many platforms support aggressive sampling rates which may provide the granularity you require.
Regards.
david
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Subject: Re: [a-nsp] VLAN in SNMP Interface Table
Counting packets gives no insight, not even per VLAN.
I would rather get a good free (or cheap) sFlow probe, like InMons.
There you can get graphs in anyway you like it. Per port, Per VLAN etc.
And it also gives graphs and insight to application layer (i.e. L3 and L4 headers in the packet).
And sFlow is supported in Arista gear.
Just my 50 cent
Patrik
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On 9 Dec 2019, at 15:35, Mike Hammett < arista-nsp at ics-il.net > wrote:
Except VLANs are touched by the layer 2 switch and routed accordingly. Using the mail\post office analogy, it would be like a suite or apartment number at a given address.
I'm not going to try to force Arista into my need. If Arista doesn't do it, then I'll move on. It doesn't seem like they do.
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From: "Doug McIntyre" < merlyn at geeks.org >
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Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 8:32:07 AM
Subject: Re: [a-nsp] VLAN in SNMP Interface Table
I'd count the packets exiting a port as doing some work.
Maybe a better analogy would be you have a bunch of envelopes sent
through the post office. You are asking a counter to see how many
pieces of paper are in each envelope. The post office only delivers
the envelopes, so we have a total count of envelopes. Only if we need
to burst open the envelopes (layer-3) and start routing the pieces of paper
based on their top tag, will we have counters on them. As long as the
post office keeps forwarding intact envelopes (ie. layer-2), we won't have
visibility into inside.
On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 07:40:00AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote:
> If the first paragraph were true, we'd never have port counters on a switch.
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> From: "Doug McIntyre" < merlyn at geeks.org >
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> On Sun, Dec 08, 2019 at 06:02:47PM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > This looks like it's only on layer 3 interfaces, which doesn't do me a whole lot of good.
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> I don't know of any hardware that keeps track of layer-2 VLAN packet
> counts going through the switch. Generally, stats are updated on times
> when switches have to _do_ something. Forwarding along layer-2 is
> usually done in ASICs and the switch doesn't do anything special for
> decoding the VLAN headers. OOTH, doing a layer-3 routing termination
> is doing something, which is where I measure everything, on the
> layer-3 edge. And every type of hardware I touch can monitor that.
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> As posted before, if you need this sort of thing, you'll probably have
> to go to sflow type collectors in order to get what you want. Or
> consider making your network do layer-3 VLAN terminations somewhere so
> that you can measure it.
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> Perhaps there is some weird EVPN/vxlan setup you could make that the
> switch will have to do punting of traffic out to a VTEP, and you could
> measure those counts, but I have zero experience monitoring such a setup.
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