[nsp] NBAR, Gnutella and 'match protocol http url'

mac mac at telvia.it
Thu Jul 3 00:42:41 EDT 2003


Until now nbar has proven to be non re-able feature. Avoid using it on 
main router or switchs.

Mac

On Mercoledì, lug 2, 2003, at 21:32 Europe/Rome, Benjamin Setnick wrote:

> Matt,
>
> Be very careful using the new Kazaa2 PDLM.  It is very broken.  Take a 
> look
> at bug CSCea26074.  We have this problem even with the "fixed" PDLM
> installed.  It is based on some type of heuristics that can potentially
> match any type of traffic that is not otherwise classified.  If you are
> going to use this PDLM you MUST have ip nbar protocol-discovery turned 
> on
> for the interface where you are matching the traffic or you will find
> yourself blocking all kinds of stuff you don't mean to.  You can still 
> get
> bitten by blocking traffic that NBAR doesn't have a built in 
> definition for
> (in my case ISAKMP).  To get an idea of how much traffic this would 
> endanger
> just look at the amount NBAR reports as unknown.
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Matt Stevens
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:52 PM
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [nsp] NBAR, Gnutella and 'match protocol http url'
>
>
> I'm doing some testing with NBAR - with the main goal of policing 
> Fasttrack
> and
> Gnutella based P2P traffic.
>
> It seems that the Kazaa2 PDLM does a pretty good job of recognizing
> Kazaa/Fasttrack and allowing it to be controlled. The Gnutella based 
> traffic
> on
> the other hand seems to be relatively unaffected. The gnutella PDLM 
> seems to
> be
> port-based and not able to track the connections when they use 
> non-standard
> ports.
>
> In the same vein trying to match gnutella traffic using 'match 
> protocol http
> url' statements seems to have no effect, since matching url's also 
> seems
> confined to traffic on port 80.
>
> Is this what others have experienced as well?
>
> The testing I'm doing is on a 2621 running 12.2(11)T8 with the kazaa2 
> pdlm
> added
> - since that's all that will fit in 64M RAM/16M Flash. Eventually this 
> will
> be
> deployed on 7206VXR's. Have the PDLM's been improved any in newer 
> releases -
> or
> am I seeing pretty much what one would expect?
>
> Thanks for any insight you all can lend.
> --
> matt
>
>
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