[nsp] [article]: Filters on routers: The price of performance

[Tomas Daniska]

do you think it's worth a try sending it to somebody who brags himself being the father of all testing over the world, but in reality he compares router troughput/performance based on maximum installable memory?



but what i'm also wondering about is that according to the article, vendors were those actually configuring the boxes. so if this is true, cisco has to eat its own share of the scandal - they definitely should thank the boyscout shipped with the router :)

this might seem to lessen david newman's guilt, but with his experience he should have noticed that something was going wrong, shouldn't he?

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deejay 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hank Nussbacher [mailto:hank at att.net.il] 
> Sent: 17. júla 2003 9:40
> To: Ejay Hire; Robert E. Seastrom; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [nsp] [article]: Filters on routers: The price 
> of performance
> 
> 
> At 03:09 PM 16-07-03 -0500, Ejay Hire wrote:
> 
> rather than bitch here, did any1 send his/her findings to 
> dnewman at networktest.com and to the executive editor - 
> agaffin at nww.com ?
> 
> -hank
> 
> >I received a response to my query about the configs, and here are my
> >observations.
> >Disclaimer:  I haven't had a chance to test these, but my 
> gut tells me
> >this want a fair fight based on the following.
> >
> >1.  The static routes are pointed to Ethernet interfaces, 
> not hosts...
> >So the router will arp for every packet.
> >2.  The box didn't have CEF enabled, which most cluefuls 
> would enable if
> >trying to maximize throughput.
> >3.  No logging console was not in the config, and every deny 
> in the ACL
> >was set to log.  This will generate an interrupt for every ACL match
> >going through the box.
> >
> >-Ejay
> >
> >
> >"Ejay Hire" <ejay.hire at isdn.net> writes:
> >
> > > What I don't get is how they got the really shabby 
> numbers from the
> >Cisco.  I just performed a similar test of throughput with a 
> couple of
> >2501's back to back with large ACL's applied and didn't get 
> results that
> >bad  (measuring throughput and latency with 64k and 1524 
> byte packets,
> >originated from a Linux box with traffic generator support, 
> to various
> >source and destination ip's across a two serial interfaces 
> with external
> >csu-dsu's configured to emulate t1 circuits.  Each serial interface
> >configured for hdlc with a 50 line ACL in place.).  Did they have
> >Multilink enabled and route-caching disabled with d cef turned off?
> >I've forwarded a request to the website for information about the
> >testing methodology.
> > >
> > > -Ejay
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Voralt [mailto:peder at voralt.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:27 AM
> > > To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> > > Subject: Re: [nsp] [article]: Filters on routers: The price of
> >performance
> > >
> > > Just another ridiculous magazine "real world test".  I 
> like how they
> >don't
> > > take price into account, by comparing a $14k Lucent to a 
> $11k Tasman
> >to a
> > > $6200 Cisco to a $3600 ImageStream.  If that's the case, 
> then I would
> >say,
> > > compare apples to apples, set a max price of say $14k and 
> then compare
> >the
> > > highest end prodct from each vendor at that price.  The 
> Cisco 3725 is
> > > $10,500 and the 3745 is $14k (by their numbers).
> > >
> > > Also, why did they use two 10M connections instead of one 100M
> >connection.
> > > That seems a little odd to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ejay Hire" <ejay.hire at isdn.net>
> > > To: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:51 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [nsp] [article]: Filters on routers: The price of
> >performance
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi all.  Anyone else take exception to this?  My 
> real-world and Lab
> > > experiences with the 2600 series don't come anywhere 
> close the latency
> >and
> > > throughput issues they describe.
> > >
> > > -Ejay
> > >
> >
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