[c-nsp] RE: [nsp] Switch Fraud

Wed Aug 4 06:47:35 EDT 2004

Hi All,

Just thought i'd pass on an update on what we've been able to find out about Cisco fakes.. might be useful to you.

First, the following products are POTENTIALLY counterfeited to our knowledge:

WIC-1DSU-T1
WIC-1T
WIC-2T
WIC-1ENET
WIC-1B-S/T

NM-1FE2W
NM-2FE2W
NM-2W

NM-HDV
VWIC-1MFT-T1
VWIC-2MFT-T1
VWIC-1MFT-E1
VWIC-2MFT-E1 
VWIC-1MFT-G703
VWIC-2MFT-G703

VIC-2FXS
VIC-2FXO

There are some telltale signs that they are fake, including:

1)        "c1sco systems"
            "cisco sytems"
            " sisco systems"
            "cwsco systems"
any of these on the underside of the unit (where appropriate) should be returned.
NOTE: many wics and other products have a "cisco systems" where the dot on the i blends into the body of the i - these seem to be ok, cisco has made many products with this characteristic.  The only ones we know to be bad are those with a distinct numeral '1' in place of the i.

2)        Red link lights during the boot process - these should be amber colored.

3)        Yellow or otherwise off-colored serial number stickers that look fake - usually these will have other problems like those noted above

4)         Incompatibility problems, like NM-2FE2W that fail when 2 wics are installed

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-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of joe mcguckin
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:06 AM
To: Eric Knudson; lexus; 'Sam Stickland'; 'Ryan O'Connell'
Cc: Cisco NSP
Subject: Re: [nsp] Switch Fraud

Typically the sticker on the back with 'H's and 'V's is the unit serial
number.

It's quite normal for the serial number as reported by 'sho ver' to be
different from the serial number on the outside of the chassis.

Joe

On 4/1/04 10:08 AM, "Eric Knudson" <eknudson at houston.rr.com> wrote:

> You can bounce the serial number off of the service contract center:
> 
> www.cisco.com/go/scc
> 
> Just choose "serial number" in the quick search dropdown.
> 
> Eric
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "lexus" <lexus at ince.st>
> To: "'Sam Stickland'" <sam_ml at spacething.org>; "'Ryan O'Connell'"
> <ryan at complicity.co.uk>
> Cc: "'Cisco Nsp'" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 5:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [nsp] Switch Fraud
> 
> 
> | Sam,
> |
> | There are a lot of "fake" cisco boxes out there.  A lot of used equip
> | reseller requires a valid serial number check.
> |
> | You can check/verify the serial number with cisco.  I think you will
> | need cco access, exactly how to do it, I am not too sure, but I know it
> | exists.
> |
> | -ken
> |
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> | [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Sam Stickland
> | Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:56 AM
> | To: Ryan O'Connell
> | Cc: Cisco Nsp
> | Subject: Re: [nsp] Switch Fraud
> |
> | Have checked back with the client, and it turns out what they are
> | actually
> | saying is that the system serial number reported by Sh ver is different
> | from
> | the system serial number on the sticker on the back of the chasis and
> | the
> | sticker on the box.
> |
> | Also the MAC address sticker on the chasis blatently isn't a mac address
> | (or
> | if it is it's the first MAC address I've seen that's has H's and V's in
> | it!).
> |
> | Sam
> |
> | Ryan O'Connell wrote:
> | > Sam Stickland wrote:
> | >
> | >> Have anyone ever come across any Cisco switches that have one serial
> | >> number reported by 'show version' and a different serial number on
> | >> the back of the case?
> | >>
> | >> A client has just received a shipment of 8 of these, and it seems
> | >> quite suspicious.
> | >>
> | >>
> | >
> | > This is quite normal, one is the serial number of the motherboard and
> | > the other the serial number of the chassis.
> |
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