[c-nsp] Familiarity with Cisco as a proxy server.

[Clayton Zekelman]

If you don't want to say it in public, don't say it at all Robert.

At 04:16 PM 07/10/2004, you wrote:

>Clayton re-added the CC to cisco-nsp; I was taking him to task
>privately for being a pedantic, zero-value-added twit and he elected
>to publicly show off his lack of knowledge of basic netiquette (*),
>thus validating my point.  A public apology on Clayton's part might be
>in order.
>
>Best,
>
>                                         ---rob
>
>(*) For instance from uoregon's Basic Internet Terminology and Etiquette page:
>
>    Don't Publicly Criticize (or "Flame") Other Users. Civil discourse
>    usually yields more positive results than inflammatory or vulgar
>    communication. If you have an issue to take up with another user that
>    you feel requires a harsh response, consider communicating directly
>    with that person, rather than starting a war of words on a public
>    forum.
>
>
>Richard Golodner <RGolodner at Aetea.com> writes:
>
> >       Boys, please play nice as this is the only place I can get some
> > peace and quiet and some understanding and help. Stop tripping on trivial
> > things and be grown up net-managers.
> >                               Thanks, Richard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Clayton Zekelman [mailto:clayton at mnsi.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 3:10 PM
> > To: Robert E.Seastrom; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Familiarity with Cisco as a proxy server.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You see, the point is, he didn't recommend Fire Wall Tool Kit.  He quoted
> > back an entire message asking a legitimate question with a single 4
>€> character response, rather than saying something like:
> >
> > "I don't know what Cisco has to offer, but you could look into FWTK, (Fire
> > Wall Tool Kit) at http://www.fwtk.org."
> >
> > As for my information posted earlier on DS1 muxing, it was a valid 
> response
> > to a valid question, not "rambling off in the weeds".
> >
> > At least it contained (for the most part) complete and descriptive
> > information rather than monosyllabic grunts like "fwtk".
> >
> > Where I come from, they teach us to be at least somewhat literate.  We are
> > after all in the COMMUNICATIONS business aren't we?
> >
> >
> >
> > At 02:24 PM 07/10/2004, you wrote:
> >
> >>Someday, I'm sure you will have a sufficient skill base to be able to
> >>add meaningful content to the cisco-nsp list (ie, not just random
>™t Publicly Criticize (or >>rambling off in the weeds about ds1 muxing or 
>insulting people's posts
> >>to the list recommending firewall toolkit).  Until that day, you are
> >>encouraged to suppress your urge to post.
> >>
> >>                                         ---Rob
> >>
> >>Clayton Zekelman <clayton at mnsi.net> writes:
> >>
> >> > Notwithstanding that your answer was actually WRONG, as this isn't the
> >> > Cisco solution - which the original message was asking for.
> >> >
> >> > A more helpful participant already pointed out that Cisco DOES in fact
> >> > a have a solution with their Content Engine series of products.
> >> >
> >> > I would have expected at least the use of complete sentences, but then
> >> > I often expect too much.
> >> >
> >> > At 10:08 AM 07/10/2004, Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN wrote:
> >> >>yeah, its canandian for fwtk.
>â>> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>firewall tool kit.
> >> >>
> >> >>did you bother to look it up in google.? had you done that you would
> > have
> >> >>found 73,000 hits - more than enuf
> >> >>info to find out it does.
> >> >>
> >> >>if i had answered checkpoint or pix, would it have clicked?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
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> > ---
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Clayton Zekelman
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