[c-nsp] non-VXR 7200 and 12.3

[Buhrmaster, Gary]

I do not disagree that it would be difficult, but
as I recall, it was "broken" before the official
EOS/EOL of the NPE-150 (Feb 2005).  I complained
at the time that technically the NPE-150 was
still supported, but to no avail.  I have to
admit I was NOT pleased with the response that
it would be "too difficult".  Having been both
a hardware engineer and a software engineer in
previous lifetimes, "too difficult" is often
used to explain away someone not thinking hard
enough about alternatives.  Especially if one
can procrastinate for 3 months and reach EOL.
Yeah, the whole episode leaves a bad taste in
my mouth, and makes me wonder where that
vaunted Cisco engineering talent is now.

Gary 

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Rodney Dunn
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:11 AM
To: Ed Ravin
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] non-VXR 7200 and 12.3

That's exactly what you will see.

We had to make a change to support the newer faster
NPE's and we couldn't do it without breaking the old
unsupported EOS/EOL NPE-100 and 150.

We did try but couldn't make them work.

It was not some marketing move.

Rodney

On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 06:51:19PM -0400, Ed Ravin wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 06:07:40PM -0400, Robert Boyle wrote:
> > At 12:02 PM 4/25/2005, you wrote:
> > >On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 12:35:51PM -0300, Lucas Iglesias wrote:
> > >> We are about to buy a used 7206 (at a very cheap prize), but my 
> > >experience
> > >> with them is limited to the VXR series.
> > >
> > >> 2- Does them support the same Image?
> > >
> > >No.  The non-VXR boxes won't boot anything later than 12.2T.  If you don't
> > >need anything later than that, they will serve you well.
> > 
> > I've never heard that. We run 12.3 on a couple of our 7200 non-VXR boxes. 
> > Same images. They are great for edge boxes. You are limited to the 
> > unobtainable NPE-225 if you want 256MB of RAM and you can never have more 
> > than that since the NPE-400/G1 are not supported in the non VXR chassis.
> 
> We couldn't get our NPE-150 box (128 MB) to boot anything past
> 12.2T.  Here's what it said:
> 
>   00:00:05: %SYS-3-LOGGER_FLUSHING: System pausing to ensure console
> debugging
> output.
> 
>   %SYS-4-CONFIG_NEWER: Configuration from version 12.2 may not be correctly
> understood
>   *Feb 14 11:30:54: %SYS-3-LOGGER_FLUSHING: System pausing to ensure
> console
> debugging output.
> 
>   %SYS-6-BOOT_MESSAGES: Messages above this line are from the boot loader.
>   Self decompressing the image :
> #####################################################################################################################################################################################################################################
> [OK]
> 
>   *** Illegal Opcode Exception ***
>   PC = 0x808993a8, Cause = 0x28, Status Reg = 0x34400002
> 
>   monitor: command "boot" aborted due to exception
> 
> 
> as soon as the image was loaded.
> 
> And someone in Cisco told us we were out of luck.  If you can tell us
> otherwise I'd be very interested.
> 
> 	-- Ed
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