[c-nsp] 7304 NPE-G100 vs. NSE-100

[Mikael Abrahamsson]

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Aivars wrote:

> If G100 is not an option because of lack of performance and NSE-100
> because of bugs, what choice is there for an aggregator? 10008, SUP720,
> SUP32 or another vendor. The price of 10k is just smashing and
> afterwards you unwillingly start comparing SUP720 with NSE-100 and
> with features do you really need and witch you can get rid of.

We have quite a lot of NSE-100 in the field and a lot of our customers 
traffic is passing thru them (a lot of our IP<->MPLS is done on NSE-100, 
and the killer app for the NSE-100 is hierical QoS for our part).

I have found that there is little alternative in this space apart from the 
NSE-100, the G1 lacks performance, and OSM/SIP cards are just too "big" 
for us, with their several ports and quite high price. We chose the 
NSE-100 almost three years ago, have gone thru quite some pain with it, 
but now it works quite well, even though we have bug cases frequently and 
we end up upgrading IOS every 4-6 months or so (but this seems to be the 
case for any Cisco platform doing anything advanced).

Juniper has a hard time competing in this space as the m7i only has a 
single port and you need to add an additional QPP to this, bringing up the 
price a lot.

What else is there? I guess there is a reason for people going the Huawei 
route, but I have no experience with them.

> Aivars
>
> Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 7:17:08 PM, you wrote:
>
> MA> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Cory Ayers wrote:
>
>>> it as an aggregator.  From my experience the 7606 is an incredible work
>>> horse, but also a glorified switch with reduced features (similar to
>>> PXF) and versatility (no NPE version) at a heavier price point.
>
> MA> Personally I would never compare what the Sup720 feature set to what PXF
> MA> has.
>
> MA> The 7600/Sup720 is a speed deamon at the few things it does, PXF based
> MA> equipment does much more but is much slower and more expensive, and then
> MA> we have processor based (like G1) that does pretty much everything but
> MA> make coffee, but does it extremely slowly and in a manner where each
> MA> feature degrades performance.
>
> MA> I think the 7600 makes sense in a pure packet-shuffeling environment,
> MA> unless you fork out for the expensive SIP/PXF cards, which is (in my mind)
> MA> a PXF-on-a-stick.
>
>

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at swm.pp.se