[c-nsp] 6509 and ws-x6748 and power

David Prall dcp at dcptech.com
Thu Jun 9 09:02:48 EDT 2005


This would be the loss of power during conversion from AC to DC. The power
supply sucks up 4000W of AC power from the Wall, but is only capable of
delivering 3795W of DC power to the backplane. I'd say a 6% loss during
conversion is pretty efficient. A 48V DC Power supply is also going to have
some loss during the conversion to 42V DC. Put in a 6000W power supply and
see how it only delivers 4500W to a 9 slot chassis, this is what is required
for a maxed chassis with 6748-GE-TX with DFC's. It delivers the full 6000W
in a 13 slot.

David

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David C Prall dcp at dcptech.com http://dcp.dcptech.com
  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Swanson [mailto:lakepepin at hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:10 AM
> To: hank at efes.iucc.ac.il; dcp at dcptech.com; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 and ws-x6748 and power
> 
> Yep, 4000watt power gets you 3795 available...94.8% of stated 
> power.  Can I 
> only pay 94% then? :)
> 
> >sho env power
> PS1 Capacity: 3795.12 Watts (90.36 Amps @42V)
> PS2 Capacity: 3795.12 Watts (90.36 Amps @42V)
> PS Configuration : PS1 and PS2 in Redundant Configuration.
> 
> Total Power Available                        : 3795.12 Watts 
> (90.36 Amps 
> @42V)
> Total Power Chassis Limit                    : 3780.00 Watts 
> (90.00 Amps 
> @42V)
> Total Power Chassis Recommended              : 3780.00 Watts 
> (90.00 Amps 
> @42V)
> Total Power Available for Line Card Usage    : 3780.00 Watts 
> (90.00 Amps 
> @42V)
> Total Power Drawn From the System            : 1606.50 Watts 
> (38.25 Amps 
> @42V)
> Total Power Drawn by the Chassis             :    0.00 Watt
> Total Power Drawn by the modules             : 1606.50 Watts 
> (38.25 Amps 
> @42V)
> Total Inline Power Drawn From the System     :    0.00 Watts 
> ( 0.00 Amps 
> @42V)
> Total Power Reserved as localpool for modules:    0.00 Watt
> Remaining Power in the System                : 2188.62 Watts 
> (52.11 Amps 
> @42V)
> Configured Default Inline Power allocation per port: 15.40 
> Watts ( 0.37 Amps 
> @42
> V)
> 
> Slot power Requirement/Usage :
> 
> Slot Model                   PowerRequested PowerAllocated CardStatus
>                              Watts   A @42V Watts   A @42V
> ---- ----------------------- ------- ------ ------- ------ ----------
> 4                             325.50  7.75     0.00  0.00  power-bad
> 5    WS-SUP720-BASE           315.00  7.50   315.00  7.50  ok
> 6    WS-SUP720-BASE           315.00  7.50   315.00  7.50  standby
> 7    WS-X6748-GE-TX           325.50  7.75   325.50  7.75  ok
> 8    WS-X6748-GE-TX           325.50  7.75   325.50  7.75  ok
> 9    WS-X6748-GE-TX           325.50  7.75   325.50  7.75  ok
> 
> Insufficient DC voltage levels detected on module 4
> TTCIDF5BAKSWT002> (enable)
> 
> >From: Hank Nussbacher <hank at efes.iucc.ac.il>
> >To: "David Prall" <dcp at dcptech.com>, "'Brad Swanson'" 
> ><lakepepin at hotmail.com>,        <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> >Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 and ws-x6748 and power
> >Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:36:42 +0300
> >
> >At 09:46 PM 08-06-05 -0400, David Prall wrote:
> >
> >I can dig that, but when I order a 6500 with a 3000W power 
> supply, I don't 
> >expect to get only 2770W:
> >
> >gp1#sho power
> >system power redundancy mode = redundant
> >system power redundancy operationally = non-redundant
> >system power total =     2771.16 Watts (65.98 Amps @ 42V)
> >system power used =      1807.68 Watts (43.04 Amps @ 42V)
> >system power available =  963.48 Watts (22.94 Amps @ 42V)
> >                         Power-Capacity PS-Fan Output Oper
> >PS   Type               Watts   A @42V Status Status State
> >---- ------------------ ------- ------ ------ ------ -----
> >1    WS-CAC-3000W       2771.16 65.98  OK     OK     on
> >2    none
> >                         Pwr-Allocated  Oper
> >Fan  Type               Watts   A @42V State
> >---- ------------------ ------- ------ -----
> >1    WS-C6K-13SLT-FAN2   298.20  7.10  OK
> >                         Pwr-Requested  Pwr-Allocated  Admin Oper
> >Slot Card-Type          Watts   A @42V Watts   A @42V State State
> >---- ------------------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ----- -----
> >1    WS-X6582-2PA        105.00  2.50   105.00  2.50  on    on
> >2    WS-X6582-2PA        105.00  2.50   105.00  2.50  on    on
> >3    WS-X6582-2PA        105.00  2.50   105.00  2.50  on    on
> >4    WS-X6582-2PA        105.00  2.50   105.00  2.50  on    on
> >7    WS-SUP720-3BXL      328.44  7.82   328.44  7.82  on    on
> >8    (Redundant Sup)       -     -      328.44  7.82  -     -
> >9    WS-X6748-GE-TX      432.60 10.30   432.60 10.30  on    on
> >
> >Not nice.
> >
> >-Hank
> >
> >>Brad,
> >>What power supplies? DFC's on the cards? This is the most 
> power hungry 
> >>card
> >>that can be installed. Have a look at
> >>http://www.cisco.com/go/powercalculator A 6509 with 2500 Watt Power 
> >>Supplies
> >>is at 82% with only the 2 Sup-720's and 4 6748's without 
> DFC's. With DFC's
> >>the 2500W is at 99%. If you have any other cards in there it is
> >>overloaded/underpowered.
> >>
> >>David
> >>
> >>--
> >>David C Prall dcp at dcptech.com http://dcp.dcptech.com
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> >> > [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Brad Swanson
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:27 PM
> >> > To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> >> > Subject: [c-nsp] 6509 and ws-x6748 and power
> >> >
> >> > TAC case already open.  Bad chassis...?  6509 with dual 
> sup720 3a's,
> >> > ws-x6748-ge-tx cards in mod's 4, 7, 8, 9.  Two weeks ago the
> >> > mod in slot 4
> >> > died with the error "power-bad".  Thinking the card died, we
> >> > replaced with
> >> > new.  Just today the new card dies the same death, moved it
> >> > to slot 3, same
> >> > result.  Booted switch, still dead card.
> >> >
> >> > Some messages:
> >> > a fabric-sync error showed up right before the module died
> >> > sho mod 4 gets unknown card, for module-type and 
> power-bad for status.
> >> > sho env all gets nothing showing up in slot 4, yet under 
> Slot power
> >> > requirements/usage slot 4 shows "Insufficient DC voltage
> >> > levels detected on
> >> > module 4"
> >> > on reboot:   %SYS-3-MOD_PWRFAIL:Module 4 failed to power up
> >> >
> >> > Power to the device is data center power, doesn't get any
> >> > cleaner as far as
> >> > power.
> >> >
> >> > Bad connectors on the backplane for power?
> >> >
> >> > Brad Swanson
> >> >
> >> >
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