[c-nsp] Router recommendation

[Rick Kunkel]

Heya folks,

Thanks much for all the suggestions.  As a relatively small company we go 
through this process like once every 3 years or so, and of course, by 
then, not only have all the models changed and stuff, but I've completely 
forgotten all the research I may have done before.

If you can bear with me, I think I'm almost there...

It sounds like whatever I do, I'm looking at 1 GB of RAM.  Everything 
else-wise, it sounds like my options are something like this:

7206VXR w/NPE-G2
A 7600 series
A 10000 series

My biggest confusion right now, and to which I'm having trouble finding 
the answer, is what exactly pieces are required for each.  For instance, 
as far as I know, without the NPE-G2 (or some other other NPE), the 7206 
is just a paper-weight, even if it has other modules in it.  (Is that 
correct.)  I'm assumign the same is true for the supervisor engine, but 
then it sounds like even the supervisor engine has components, like the 
PFC2 or MSFC2.  Ditto for the 10000.

For the record here, it's worth noting that I'd be happy to speak with a
knowledgeable salesperson about this.  Obviously, no one here is obligated
to answer what seem to me to be pretty basic questions.  Please let me
know if I should be hunting down a salesperson somewhere.

Getting back to the three options above...  (and assuming that some of you
might not just tell me to find a salesperson...)  What are the basic
pieces needed for a functioning 7600 or 10000?  Beyond that, I will be
requiring at least 3 GigE ports and and ATM DS-3 port.  But my guess is
that the GigE ports MAY come on the processor thingy, like the NPE-G2, and
I'm expecting the ATM card to be separate.

Again, i can't thank people enough for this.  Again, doing a pretty decent 
sized purchase like this only every couple years or so just isn't 
conducive to this kind of knowledge.

Thanks,

Rick Kunkel

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Matthew Crocker wrote:

> 
> I'm pretty sure you don't want to do DSL Aggregation/PPPoE  
> termination on a 12000 series.  The 12.0 software is lacking in edge  
> features.
> 
> for DSL aggregation you really want to look at the 7206 or 10000  
> series with appropriate processors.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> On Sep 15, 2006, at 12:34 PM, Rick Kunkel wrote:
> 
> > Another possibility...  i've heard that 12000 series can be had
> > relatively inexpensively on Ebay.  Any thoughts on these?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rick
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 05:36:43PM -0700, Rick Kunkel wrote:
> >>>>>> Heya folks... I'm pretty dim on the upper lever Cisco gear,  
> >>>>>> and we're
> >>>> in
> >>>>>> the market for something burlier than the 7206 we've currently  
> >>>>>> got.  I
> >>>>>> need some suggestions for products...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The requirements:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. We're terminating a DSL Aggregation DS-3, so there must be an
> >>>>>> electrical and/or optical DS-3 module available for it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2.  At least 3 GigEthernet ports, either somewhat built-in or in
> >>>> modules.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3.  Capable of handling at least 3 full BGP routing tables.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 4.  Must be able to do operating-system-wise everything that our
> >>>> current
> >>>>>> 7206 does, like "atm route-bridged ip" stuff and 802.1Q.  (I  
> >>>>>> have a
> >>>>>> feeling this is kind of a "it goes without saying" type of
> >>>> requirement,
> >>>>>> but I wanted to be clear...)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 5.  Able to route/switch about 1Gbps from the various internet  
> >>>>>> facing
> >>>>>> interfaces to the various internal facing interfaces.  (I'm  
> >>>>>> sure this
> >>>> is
> >>>>>> not a simple answer, but unfortunately, that's about all I've  
> >>>>>> got to
> >>>> go on
> >>>>>> right now.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any suggestions?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rick Kunkel
> 
> --
> Matthew S. Crocker
> Vice President
> Crocker Communications, Inc.
> Internet Division
> PO BOX 710
> Greenfield, MA 01302-0710
> http://www.crocker.com
> 
>