[c-nsp] Getting Netflow information from an Extreme Networks network without Netflow/Sflow

Adam Powers apowers at lancope.com
Wed Nov 28 08:54:02 EST 2007


I would definitely take a look at Luca Deri's nProbe (the same Italian that
brought us ntop). This small linux/windows application simulates a router's
NetFlow cache by passively sniffing Ethernet frames via a SPAN/mirror port
generating NetFlow in various formats that can be sent to a collector for
top talker, trending, etc.

There are others available (such as fprobe) but in my experience nprobe is
by far the superior utility.

Unfortunately if you're going to make use of nprobe you need to pay a bit
for it.

I haven't worked with it myself but he even sells a small appliance that
runs nprobe if you don't want to mess with building out an probe server
yourself.

http://www.ntop.org/nProbe.html




On 11/27/07 7:22 PM, "Bill Nash" <billn at billn.net> wrote:

> 
> You can implement tools like softflowd on a server to generate flows from
> traffic it sees on one (or more) of its interfaces, in combination with
> your available port mirroring option. Obvious limits are going to include
> figuring out where your traffic chokepoints are, to facilitate
> comprehensive monitoring, and whether or not you can get a big enough pipe
> on server hardware to handle your traffic volume.
> 
> - billn
> 
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Mike Louis wrote:
> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I am working with a large client that uses extreme networks gear extensively.
>> Most of their gear is older i series and e series summit and black diamond
>> equipment. Anyone on this list have any experience with getting netflow top
>> talkers information from  a network like this without using netflow or sflow.
>> I am working on some other tools using NTOP for starters but i am not getting
>> the information that i need. I would like to use a tool that can support port
>> mirroring traffic to gather network statistics. The current gear that they
>> are using supports Sflow however its so old that even extreme recommended not
>> enabling it on links over 1Mbps. Netflow was a no go as well plus most of the
>> gear won't support it.
>> 
>> Any ideas on some good network visibility tools for traffic anaylsis.
>> Specifically something similar to what information netflow can provide with
>> source/destination port/address information for a flow.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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