[c-nsp] Multiple T1 IMA / Channelized DS3

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

Yes it does.  Since we don't bother with redundant DC power in
our setup we connect both inputs together - but if you only
connect 1 input, only card is powered, connect only the other
input and only the other card is powered, etc.  So if you were
running an unattended NOC you would probably do redundant dc power.

We looked into the Adtran products as well but unlike Telco
systems, Adtran makes you maintain a service contract (without
hardware replacement of course) to get firmware
updates, and documentation.  That's fine if you have plenty of
money, or like a lot of telcos (it seems) your blithly spending
someone else's money.  Or, if your dealing with a device like a
router that is accessible to the public and thus must have
periodic security updates on it.  It is rather rediculous when
your talking about a piece of circuit gear that is layer 2
only and is never touched after installation.  Kind of like
getting a service contract on a UPS.  In our case we just bought
an extra one for sparing.

Ted

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Bulk - iNAME [mailto:frnkblk at iname.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:43 AM
> To: 'OCOSA ListAcct'; Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Multiple T1 IMA / Channelized DS3
>
>
> Does the Telco Systems EdgeLink100 T1/E1 include an A/B side for redundant
> DC power?  I couldn't discern that from the spec sheet.
>
> We've been recommended (and installed) the Adtran series of products.
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of OCOSA ListAcct
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:42 AM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Multiple T1 IMA / Channelized DS3
>
> Thanks seems to be cheaper than the Adtran MX2800 setup....
>
> Otis
>
>
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >   Telco Systems sells boxes that will break out a channelized DS3 into
> > T1s.  You can get them off Ebay for about $500-$800.  That is how we
> > handle our channelized DS3s.  We break them out with the Telco systems
> > boxes then run the T1's through a DSU bank then into PA-8T serial cards
> > with octopus cable.  The Telco systems boxes, DSU bank and 8 port serial
> > cars grand total is far cheaper than getting channelized DS3 cards for
> > the 7206 and you also could use this to break a DS3 down into some
> > IMA channels that run into your PA-A3-8T1IMA card and others that run
> > into a standard T1 card.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> >> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of OCOSA ListAcct
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:56 PM
> >> To: Joe Freeman
> >> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> >> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Multiple T1 IMA / Channelized DS3
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok. I spoke with AT&T earlier they said that they have other customers
> >> taking some T1 IMAs over a channelized DS3 into the same router I was
> >> like how they said they would have a tech contact me I was ok.
> I thought
> >> maybe take the DS3 circuit into some sort of mux and split the signal
> >> from the IMA and send to a cross connect and then to the PA-A3-8T1IMA
> >> card....Can anyone shed some light here? Any help is appreciated!
> >>
> >> Otis
> >>
> >> Joe Freeman wrote:
> >>
> >>> PA-MC-T3 cards won't do IMA.
> >>>
> >>> That said... Does anyone have any suggestions for scaling NxDS0
> >>> circuits muxed to ChDS3 in a 7206 chassis beyond 12 DS3's?
> >>>
> >>> Joe
> >>>
> >>> On 8/28/07, *OCOSA ListAcct* <listacc at ocosa.com
> >>> <mailto:listacc at ocosa.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     Has anyone took a channelized DS3 circuit using a (PA-MC-T3) and
> >>>     place a
> >>>     T1 IMA circuit for dsl aggregation on that same circuit filling up
> >>>     four
> >>>     full T1 slots? Would this be a layer 2 local switching
> setup on the
> >>>     pa-mc-t3 card?
> >>>
> >>>     Otis
> >>>
> >>>
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