[c-nsp] Question about the CCNA and CCNP certification

[Fred Reimer]

Yes, a CCNA is required in order to get your CCNP.  I believe you
can get your CCIE without any previous certifications, however.

Fred Reimer, CISSP
Senior Network Engineer
Coleman Technologies, Inc.
954-298-1697


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Bernd
Ueberbacher
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 5:04 PM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Question about the CCNA and CCNP certification

Hi there!

As you might know from my earlier posts I'm currently learning
for my 
CCNA with the goal of achieving the CCNP afterwards. Sometimes
it's a 
bit boring to learn for the CCNA, because I work all day long
with Cisco 
devices and in the evening when I'm learning for the CCNA
certification 
I have to calculate subnet masks etc. Not the most exciting
stuff...

A guy I know from a different company also wants to become a
CCNP, but 
today he told me, that he is heading directly towards the CCNP
without 
passing the CCNA. I said that this is not possible, but he was 
completely sure about it and had an interesting explanation... He
says 
that the CCNA is a requirement for the CCNP if you want to attend
a CCNP 
class room course. This prevents that you have absolutely no clue
about 
networking and slow down the whole group/class. If you don't
attend the 
class, but do it by self studying and just take the exam with
Pearson 
Vue etc, you don't need a valid CCNA certification. This is
because it's 
your money/problem if you fail but you are not annoying anybody
else 
with your incompetence and if you have no clue you just don't
pass.

It somehow sounds right, because why would anybody need a lower
level 
certification just to take the CCNP exam? Of course you need to
know the 
topics from the CCNA to become a CCNP, but is the certification
really 
required?

So is this guy right and is it just a prerequisite for class room

trainings or is it a prerequisite for the exam?


Thanks,
Bernd

PS: Yes, I googled, but the Cisco website just says: "CCNP 
Prerequisites: Valid CCNA certification" and the link below says
"CCNA 
ensures that CCNP candidates possess a solid foundation of
networking 
knowledge, which lays the foundation for the professional
curriculum. 
Without that prerequisite foundation, the student may not be able
to 
keep up with others in class and learn the advanced knowledge and
skills 
presented in the CCNP courses." so this guy might be right...



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