[c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"?

[Whisper]

Nah

They really over-engineered the IPv6 address space

Its something like only 25% of the IPv6 address space gives you 100 IPv6
addresses per nanometer of the surface of planet Earth.

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Ziv Leyes <zivl at gilat.net> wrote:

> When did exactly the IPv4 started? Did they ever think about the day the
> 4294967296 ip addresses won't be enough for the world?
> I think it's the same story with the IPv6, today we talk about the much
> more IPs we're going to get, but it will be so many that in a short term
> every little thing will have IP capability, so, every toaster, every
> refrigerator, every RC Car, every cellphone, pencils, bike, car, and so on,
> all of them, EVERYONE will get a unique IP address, and that's it, we'll be
> at the same exhausting problem shortly, much sooner than you can imagine...
>
>
> Ziv
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dale W. Carder
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:56 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: Gert Doering; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"?
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2008, at 3:40 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > If every end user on the Internet could get a /48 directly from
> > an RIR the global BGP table would melt any router designed into slag.
>
> It is well understood now that IPv6 really has nothing to do
> with solving DFZ table bloat.
>
> > And with IPv6, because the globally-significant part of the number
> > is only on the router, if the organization is properly setup,
> > renumbering is a snap, so the poor excuse that renumbering labor
> > would be so high as to justify not renumbering isn't available.
>
> That renumbering would be a snap is only true if you
> ignore real-world issues like DNS, firewalls, ACL's, etc.
> You can only push ULA addressing so far and we'll be
> back to NATing IPv6.
>
> > But if you don't qualify to get a portable IPv4 now, there
> > is nothing magical about IPv6
>
> I've best heard IPv6 described as "96 more bits, no magic".
>
> > Perhaps you have some new radical way of routing IP numbers on the
> > Internet
> > that your planning on introducing.  But until you introduce it, or
> > someone
> > else does, the need will still exist to organize numbering on the
> > Internet in a
> > heiarchical fashion,
>
> The IRTF RRG has been exploring this problem space.
>
> Dale
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