[c-nsp] Cheapening the value of a CCIE

[Scott Keoseyan]

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http://www.rentacert.com/

Takes the cheapening to a whole new level...

It appears, however, that someone has shown them the error of their ways
and they are no longer enticing people to sell their certifications and
are now focused on tech-placement.  When I saw this site a few months
ago, they were paying a lot of money (up to $1000 US per month if I
remember right) for certain certs, including CCIE.  There's a note on
the main page about "What happened to our rental certification program".

I seem to remember some rules that Cisco maintained about transferring
your cert centered around frequency and time between.  Like, you
couldn't simply hop from one company to the next without there being a
gap of some kind, but I guess they did away with those rules.


Scott Keoseyan
CCIE #5885


Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
|
|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Sridhar Ayengar [mailto:ploopster at gmail.com]
|> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 10:47 PM
|> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
|> Cc: Hank Nussbacher; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
|> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cheapening the value of a CCIE
|>
|>
|> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
|>>> Does Cisco do anything to stop these kind of antics:
|>>> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cpg/536118581.html
|>> I think Cisco probably figures anyone smart enough to get
|>> a CCIE would not be dumb enough to respond to this ad.  I
|>> particularly loved the line:
|>>
|>> "I am prepared to offer you some, although not a lot of
|>> compensation in the form of computer training (if someone
|>> on your staff needs training) or perhaps eReferenceware"
|>>
|>> In short, "you give me something worth a pile of money to
|>> my company and I'll give you nothing in return"
|>>
|>> Keep in mind if they actually offered money to a CCIE that
|>> would essentially mean the CCIE was on the payroll - in which
|>> case the setup becomes exactly the same as every other Cisco
|>> Partners that employs CCIE's.
|> How does it work when a company hires a CCIE as an "outside consultant"?
|>   (In the US, being on a 1099 instead of a W-2 is basically what I mean.)
|>
|
| According to the department of labor, if an outside consultant
| is treated like an employee, he's an employee.  Several high tech
| firms have been fined large amounts for tax evasion by attempting
| to hire consultants and treat them like employees.  One of the litmus
| tests is length of time worked.  A consultant is supposed to be brought
| in for a specific job, that lasts a certain length of time, then
| when the job is complete the consultant is finished.  There are
| other litmus tests.  Hiring a consultant for a defined period of
| 6 months - like this advert is doing - without a defined job is
| a big red flag.  Having the company use a consultants certification to
| qualify for something they normally wouldn't qualify for is IMHO
| definitely over the line, and the income tax people would be knocking
| at their door if they pulled this stunt and anyone found out about it and
| reported it.  Of course, this assumes that FINANCIAL renumeration
| was happening.  Since this advert isn't offering anything other than
| worthless "training"  (ie: training the person on what they already
| have to know to have the CCIE in the first place) what they claim
| they would be doing wouldn't apply here.
|
| Ted
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