[c-nsp] Network Management System

[Mario Spinthiras]

Hello All,

Since I have dug in to find a respectable monitoring/management system
in the past , I might as well shre my 2p with you all.

To begin with no monitoring system out there really cuts it simply
because they are based on bad design. All of them including the top
notch ones which I will not mention by name.

In an ISP/NSP environment with multi layer switched networks, routing
protocols running both internally and externally , about 100 linux
machines doing various things from DNS to WWW, firewalls (PIX/ASA)
with their respective failover units and a load of other stuff , my
conclusion was Zenoss. Zenoss was the only one clever enough to
realize the environment we were introducing to it.

As I said , Zenoss might be the best one so far but then again neither
of them are "architecture aware" which could then allow you to scale
your system to predict changes before they are made (during
maintenance for example) or to do other clever things like suggestions
of somekind (when networks grow large you need someone to have your
back). It is indeed an interesting theory that a system like this
could be more than just a tool , something like a network engineer's
best friend if you will.

Anyhow I do have a relevant post for such systems which is available at:

http://www.spinthiras.net/2008/07/17/network-monitoring/

I find it hard to believe that people still use nagios or cacti. I
can't even begin to tell you how superior Zenoss is compared to what
is out there today.


Warm Regards,
Mario A. Spinthiras
Lost somewhere in London
http://www.spinthiras.net/


On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Michel Grossenbacher <pashtuk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ibrahim
> Solarwinds (www.solarwinds.net) is offering different tools which will do
> monitoring (Orion NPM), managing and configuring (Orion Network
> Configuration Manager) and also offers LAN Surveyor which they say draws the
> network into Visio. I personally only know Orion NPM which is solid
> monitoring and alarming application. It includes Interface Traffic, CPU,
> Memory, Delay, Errors Traffic Charts per default, you just gotta include the
> device and specify which links you want to monitor. Its easy to install and
> manage but is not as customizable as other tools that need more time to set
> up and manage.
> Im sure there are tons of other application (as NAV which was recommended by
> Rikard) but its the only collection of tools I know of which offers
> (mostly?) everything you want from the same company.
>
> Hope it helps a bit
>
> best regards
>
> Michel
>
>
> 2008/10/22 Rikard Stemland Skjelsvik <rskjels at pogostick.net>
>
>>
>> You could try NAV
>>
>> http://metanav.uninett.no/
>>
>>
>> It will help you manage, monitor and draw topologymaps. But it does not
>> configure devices nor take backup of the device. For that task use rancid or
>> ziptie.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rikard
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Ibrahim Alsharif wrote:
>>
>>  Hello Michel
>>> thanks for ur reply
>>> what I want is to draw full topology for the network, manage, monitor &
>>> configure all devices so what do u think ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Michel Grossenbacher <pashtuk at gmail.com>
>>> To: Mohammed Dado <mdado at airspan.com>
>>> Cc: Ibrahim Alsharif <ib_cims at yahoo.com>; "cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net" <
>>> cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:32:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Network Management System
>>>
>>> Dunno but I'd suggest to first define what you want to achieve with your
>>> NMS before you look for applications. There are so much applications and
>>> solutions around that it is hard to suggest something :-)
>>>
>>> best regards
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/10/21 Mohammed Dado <mdado at airspan.com>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Cacti would be great for yourcase ..
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Mohammed Dado
>>> Technical Support Engineer - EMEA
>>>
>>> Airspan Communications Ltd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
>>> cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Alsharif
>>> Sent: 21 October 2008 16:25
>>> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> Subject: [c-nsp] Network Management System
>>>
>>> hello Guys,
>>>
>>> could please help me to choose which Cisco Network Management software,
>>> Cuz I have a network include LAN, WAN, ASA Firewalls & Voice Equipments so I
>>> need Management Software for these equipments
>>>
>>> thank you,
>>>
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