[c-nsp] Datacenter Network Design
John Ramz
sforcejr at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 11 21:47:23 EDT 2008
Thanks guys for your replies. I sure have a lot to chew on. I am sure I will post back more questions once I get into it
John
--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Phil Bedard <philxor at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Phil Bedard <philxor at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Datacenter Network Design
> To: "Brant I. Stevens" <branto at branto.com>
> Cc: "root net" <rootnet08 at gmail.com>, sforcejr at yahoo.com, cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 9:39 AM
> This is a good guide from Cisco.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/solution/dcidg21.pdf
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Brant I. Stevens wrote:
>
> > The Solutions Reference Network Design page on
> Cisco's site is a good
> > resource for network designs.
> http://www.cisco.com/go/srnd
> >
> > -Brant
> >
> > On 9/11/08 3:15 AM, "root net"
> <rootnet08 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> John,
> >>
> >> If you are going to build a Cisco network you
> should spend some
> >> time on
> >> www.cisco.com and look at all of their
> configuration examples and
> >> whitepapers for specific gear you are looking at
> or working on.
> >> Here are
> >> some books I would suggest:
> >>
> >> Cisco Press:
> >> Data Center Fundamentals
> >> End-to-End QoS Network Design
> >> Designing for Cisco Internetwork Solutions
> >> Designing Cisco Network Architectures
> >> Network Management Fundamentals
> >>
> >> www.cisco.com: (Research)
> >>
> >> HSRP
> >> STP
> >> InterVLAN routing
> >> IEEE Bridging
> >> BGP
> >> OSPF
> >> L2TPV3
> >> MPLS / VPN
> >> IOS information
> >>
> >> Others:
> >> Administering Data Centers
> >>
> >> APC Data Center University (online classes) Some
> are FREE some are
> >> not.
> >>
> >> This is all I could think of since it's so
> late. DR will come when
> >> you
> >> start digging into the protocols and other
> information. Far as
> >> storage/backup iSCSI is your friend so build a GbE
> network.
> >> OpenFiler,
> >> NetApp, MyIVault.
> >>
> >>> From the start your facility will need to
> handle your immediate
> >>> needs and
> >> growth or at least have the ability to scale (I
> would say maybe
> >> 10-20%
> >> growth for small budgets). Look at evironmentals,
> power, fire
> >> protection:
> >> HVAC (spot coolers vs. ductless split systems vs.
> ducted systems,
> >> chilled
> >> water vs. air cooled), Power Requirements (Single
> Phase, Three
> >> Phase 208V
> >> /480V, UPS, Transfer switches, portable
> generators, generator),
> >> Raised
> >> Flooring vs. Anti-Static VCT, Security monitoring,
> water monitoring,
> >> temperature monitoring, and lastly Pre-action vs.
> plain wet system.
> >>
> >> Getting a seperate Internet feed would be wise
> unless it's just cost
> >> prohibitive. Start out with maybe 10Mbit pipe and
> go from there.
> >> This all
> >> depends your customer's applications and
> servers. What they will be
> >> transfering and etc.
> >>
> >> Look into open source products as these are FREE
> and can help you.
> >> (e.g.
> >> nagios, jffnms, cacti, mrtg, syslog, linux, RT,
> rancid, and others)
> >>
> >> Rule of thumb: A good data center will have
> proactive measures and
> >> policies
> >> in place to monitor, maintain, and procure. With
> that said monitor
> >> everything (I mean everything) and have all staff
> alerted on all
> >> levels SMS,
> >> e-mail, phone if possible automatically. It's
> not about downtime
> >> so much
> >> it's how you procure the situation in a
> specific time frame.
> >> Customer
> >> serivce is a must.
> >>
> >> You will need to make the call on the gear you use
> but I use a
> >> mixture of
> >> Cisco, Extreme, and Juniper. For data centers
> it's a must for hot
> >> swappable
> >> gear so look in to carrier class gear with
> redundant process, power
> >> supplies, hot swappable line cards. I would
> recommend Cisco 6500
> >> Series,
> >> Cisco 7200 Series, Cisco ASA or Pix. I am not to
> fond of the Juniper
> >> firewall licensing. BTW, Cisco 2800/3600 Series
> may even work.
> >> Depends on
> >> your throughput capabilities you are needing.
> Research all aspects
> >> of your
> >> gear from ram, flash, processor speeds, to
> throughput, modules,
> >> IOS, and hot
> >> swappable needs.
> >>
> >>
> >> The above will get you started.
> >>
> >> rootnet08
> >>
> >> On 9/10/08, John Ramz <sforcejr at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We are looking into start hosting our
> customers' apps and data and
> >>> would
> >>> like for you to provide me link to internet
> resources (or books)
> >>> to get me
> >>> started on a network design that includes:
> >>>
> >>> - 3rd party Compliance (security for example)
> >>> - Redundancy (routers, firewalls, switches)
> >>> - load balancing
> >>> - VLANS
> >>> - Virtual servers
> >>> - Backup- SANs-
> >>> - Disaster recovery
> >>> - How to keep customers separated from our
> regular network?
> >>> - How to keep customers totally isolated from
> each other?
> >>> - Access from our network to the Datacenter
> network for our
> >>> developers to
> >>> work with our customers? Also for our IT
> people to service,
> >>> monitor and
> >>> maintain that network
> >>
> >> I have thought of getting an Internet pipe just
> for the Datacenter
> >> network
> >>> and with all the above mentioned components
> and then figure out
> >>> the way and
> >>> procedures to connect our company network with
> that one for the
> >>> different
> >>> items I already mentioned.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone been involved in a project like
> that could elaborate as
> >>> much as
> >>> possible on the subject?
> >>>
> >> Please shed some light with me on where to start
> and build from
> >> there?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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