[c-nsp] CALEA was Re: OT - Dark Fiber

[Alex Balashov]

Amen to that.

As I understand it it was mostly for the reason you cite - new and  
exciting captive market opportunities.



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On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:07 PM, "Scott Granados" <gsgranados at comcast.net>  
wrote:

> Why does anyone comply with CALEA?  Especially after the abuses of  
> the last 8 years and probably a lot farther back than that?  I've  
> been reading about the requirements and the idea that ISPs cooperate  
> with law enforcement really makes me uneasy on a civil liberties  
> basis. Does Uncle Sam scare tactic people in to compliance?  There's  
> just something about making things easier for the NSA and any number  
> of alphabet soup agencies that strikes me as unamerican (to use  
> their own phrase against them) and wrong. Or was it created simply  
> to create a new space for security products and C, J and the others  
> were really good at lobbying?
>   Since it doesn't require the ISP to break open encrypted traffic  
> it almost makes me think a public key system that lets the end user  
> encrypt everything from phone to television with their own keys  
> makes some sense so there's nothing left in the clear for  
> entertaining the James Bond crowd! Probably not practical at all but  
> this thread just convinced me not to use split tunneling.;)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "david raistrick" <drais at icantclick.org 
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> To: "jp" <jp at saucer.midcoast.com>
> Cc: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT - Dark Fiber
>
>
>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, jp wrote:
>>
>>> Regarding the topic... If someone provides dark fiber, would they be
>>> subject to CALEA requirements to be able to tap and record the
>>
>> I haven't followed CALEA-for-ISPs for a few years, but at least  
>> when it was initially required, dark fiber providers won't need to  
>> comply with CALEA.  They're not providing network service.   -lit-  
>> fiber providers would because they're either providing network or  
>> telecom service....but they generally wouldn't do it at the  
>> physical layer.
>>
>> ...david
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