[c-nsp] Brocade VS Cisco

[Ryan Finnesey]

In terms of the Cisco Tax I find they will work with us on the hardware but
when it comes time to renew Smart Net they kill us.  I think that TAC
support has gone way downhill so much so that we are taken a good look at
using Juniper moving forward.

Cheers
Ryan


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Michael Balasko
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Brocade VS Cisco

We have two of the Brocade TurboIron 24's as a test and they have been rock
solid. If you are looking for another vendor to look at I would take a hard
look at Arista Networks. They are an awesome,responsive company that builds
killer gear.  My understanding is they took most of the Cat 4K team so it's
very Cisco-ish. 

As far is the Cisco tax goes? TAC, features and money spent on custom
ASIC's- 

Good read here- 

http://etherealmind.com/analysis-merchant-custom-silicon/


Michael Balasko
CCSP,CCNP,MCSE,SCP
Network Specialist II
City of Henderson
240 Water St. 
Henderson, Nv 89015
P:702-267-4337
C:702-373-2730

"Chuck Norris has only one OSI layer - Physical"


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mike Bushard
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Brocade VS Cisco

Brad,

I have run a Foundry/Brocade L3 network (FES2402-Prem and FESX424-Prem) for
6 years and a MPLS network for the past 3 (XMR4000 and CES2000).

I had some issues with a FES12GCF-Prem rebooting every 48 hours on the dot,
took about a week to resolve it, but they took care of me very well.

Other than that not really a hiccup.

If you don't need the every feature you could ever want(Cisco), then the
Foundry product is great IMHO. I run a 7609-S network too, I like them both.
Your checkbook might like Brocade better...

Foundry is like a Mack truck, no navigation system, not heated seats, etc.
but it will run forever and not complain. Cisco and Juniper are like
Cadillac's, everything you could ever want for features, but it comes at a
price.

I suggest demoing them, draw your own conclusions.



Mike Bushard, Jr
Network Engineer
Arvig Communication Systems
diversicom-Melrose Telephone-Wisper Wireless


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Bradley Williamson
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:43 AM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Brocade VS Cisco

Does anyone have any horror stories or gotcha's  concerning Brocade? What
about success stories?

We are looking at Brocade, Cisco, and Juniper for a couple of upcoming
projects and I am familiar with both Cisco and Juniper, but not so much with
Brocade. We have a few of their small switches in our network, but that's
about the extent of my experience.

We want to build an MPLS core capable of delivering triple-play services and
as part of that, we will be building our a MetroE network to provide
ethernet backhaul for mobile providers and also deliver L2VPN and L3VPN
services to our business customers.

I am a little skeptical of Brocade. I just do not understand how they can
provide the performance they claim at half the price of the other guys.

Any insight/advice would be appreciated.

Brad

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