[c-nsp] Brocade Vs Cisco

Ryan Finnesey rfinnesey at gmail.com
Thu Aug 11 21:00:32 EDT 2011


What would be your preference between just Cisco or Juniper

Cheers
Ryan


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:00 PM
To: 'Keegan Holley'; 'Bradley Williamson'
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Brocade Vs Cisco

Cisco or Juniper would be our preference.  We won't touch anything that has
Brocade attached to it period - too many issues with our customers who have
purchased Brocade.

Biased opinion more towards Juniper because we are a partner as well ;)

Paul


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Keegan Holley
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:48 PM
To: Bradley Williamson
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Brocade Vs Cisco

I think your original question was about carrier ethernet gear.  I have also
had some bad experiences with foundry/brocade equipment.  Cisco's metro-e
offering leaves something to be desired as well though.  I actually went
with ciena switches and mac-in-mac or PBB encapsulation.  It's much more
robust than vpls/L2vpn (at least until T-MPLS is standardized) and is
simpler to implement and supported on lower cost gear.  Most use vpls or
l2vpn in their core to make use of existing routers.  I would recommend
ciena (if you can get over the "nortel-speak" command line) for an edge
metro deployment.  Brocade is better off in a DC environment delivering more
generic ethernet services.  Just my 2 cents.

Keegan


2011/8/11 Bradley Williamson <bwilliamson at eatel.com>

> Does anyone have any horror stories or gotcha's  concerning Brocade? 
> What about success stories?
>
> We are looking at Brocade, Cisco, and Juniper for a couple of upcoming 
> projects and I am familiar with both Cisco and Juniper, but not so 
> much
with
> Brocade. We have a few of their small switches in our network, but 
> that's about the extent of my experience.
>
> We want to build an MPLS core capable of delivering triple-play 
> services and as part of that, we will be building our a MetroE network 
> to provide ethernet backhaul for mobile providers and also deliver 
> L2VPN and L3VPN services to our business customers.
>
> I am a little skeptical of Brocade. I just do not understand how they 
> can provide the performance they claim at half the price of the other
guys.
>
> Any insight/advice would be appreciated.
>
> Brad
>
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