[c-nsp] MSDP and my limited knowledge question

Paul Cosgrove paul.cosgrove.lists at gmail.com
Wed Sep 5 08:48:46 EDT 2012


I think you mean the PIM Designated router, rather than the Designated
Forwarder there.  The DR sends registers.  IGMP, or the DF (which forwards
the data stream onto a particular subnet) are not really relevant to this.

NATing the source address of each packet in the multicast flow sounds a
little messy to me. The c4900 will need to record state of the multicast
flow, and also sending register messages which include the source address.

Paul.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Adam Vitkovsky <adam.vitkovsky at swan.sk>wrote:

> It appears that the IGMP DF will not begin the PIM RP register process if
> the source of the m-cast is not on a directly connected subnet.
>
> I guess you need to trick the router into believing that the source is on a
> local subnet -like NAT the source IP to 192.168.1.2 on the linux box -you
> can than translate it back to 10.10.10.1 on the router.
>
>
> adam
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mihai Tanasescu
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:09 AM
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] MSDP and my limited knowledge question
>
> Hi,
>
> On 9/4/12 11:18 AM, Phil Mayers wrote:
> > On 09/03/2012 07:12 PM, Mihai Tanasescu wrote:
> >
> >> b) if I put:
> >> 10.10.10.1/29 or /32 configured on S on a Loopback interface and on
> >> C4900:
> >> ip route 10.10.10.0 255.255.255.240 192.168.1.2
> >
> > So, to be clear, you're doing this i.e. trying to source the multicast
> > from a "virtual" IP:
> >
> > Linux:
> >
> > ip addr add 192.168.1.2/24 dev eth0
> > ip addr add 10.10.10.1/23 dev lo
> > send-multicast --source 10.10.10.1 --group 233.x.x.x
> Yes, this is what I am trying to do (or am really doing in fact).
>
> >
> > Cisco:
> >
> > int Vlan123
> >   ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
> >   ip pim sparse-mode
> > ip route 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.2
> >
> > I don't think this will work. The c4900 isn't a PIM DF for 10.10.10.1,
> > so won't send PIM register packets (or MSDP advertisments).
> Yeap. Didn't think about it in the beginning but after reading all these
> messages and going back to the multicast theory...this seems to be the
> issue.
>
> >
> > You could try adding the 10-net as a "secondary"
> >
> > int Vlan123
> >   ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
> >   ip address 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.248 secondary
> >   ip pim sparse-mode
> >
> > Linux by default will respond to ARP packets for any of its IPs on all
> > interfaces, so this should in theory work.
> That I could also trick via arp proxy if it does not happen.
> >
> > Another alternative is the "proxy-register" argument, but that's only
> > available in dense mode:
> >
> >   ip pim dense-mode proxy-register [list x | route-map y]
> >
> > I wonder if the multicast stub-routing functionality will trick the
> > 4900 into being the DF?
> >
> > Otherwise, you'll have to run a PIM SM routing protocol on the Linux
> > box, and trust me - you don't want to do that.
> I could try running XORP :) This is an experimental setup and is more a
> lab thing.
> The question is..would it work to have both PIM SM and the Source on the
> same box ? (from a concept point of view..the process handling PIM SM
> would not really receive the multicast stream if it's internally source
> on the same box, no ?)
>
> --
> mihai
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