[c-nsp] data center/mpls/vpls

Tue Apr 16 19:31:22 EDT 2013

4.3.1 isn't out until April 30th.

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On 2013-04-16, at 10:44 AM, "Aaron" <aaron1 at gvtc.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the warning on the 9000v
> 
> We have thought about using it but aren't going to for the DC deployment.
> (it doesn't have the (11) 10gig interfaces we need to begin with)  It always
> seemed attractive that it was advertised as a linecard in an asr9k with all
> the features that an asr9k/ios xr has to offer, but your commentary doesn't
> make me feel very good about it
> 
> Jared, why do you say it's IOS ?  If it's a linecard in an ASR9k wouldn't
> that make it IOS XR?  Not sure what you mean by ios
> 
> Also, off the top of your heard, are there problems with IOS XR 4.3.1 in
> ASR9k that I should be aware of ?
> 
> Aaron
> 
> p.s. hope y'all don't mind, I'm adding the list back to cc's, since this
> seems like good info for the community to benefit from.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jared Mauch [mailto:jared at puck.nether.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:41 AM
> To: Gabor Szabo (gabszabo)
> Cc: Aaron; Oliver Garraux; Jeff Kell
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] data center/mpls/vpls
> 
> You might want to be careful with the 9000V.  There are a number of
> interesting side-effects of it.
> 
> It basically won't work right until you get to at least 4.3.1.  They are
> missing a lot of things.  It is also an IOS box, which means you get none of
> the benefits of IOS-XR.  They hacked it together using TFTP and a VLAN tag.
> The inventory doesn't work right after 3 releases (4.2.2, 4.2.3, 4.3.0) and
> the software management on it is not under the ADMIN plane.
> 
> Basically, another cisco half-solution, so use with caution.
> 
> - Jared
> 
> 
> From: Mick O'Rourke [mailto:mkorourke at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:36 AM
> To: Gabor Szabo (gabszabo)
> Cc: Aaron; Oliver Garraux; Jeff Kell; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] data center/mpls/vpls
> 
> Wouldn't go near a 9000v it for a data centre deployment on AC power  - no
> dual AC option.
> 
> 
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:14 AM, "Gabor Szabo (gabszabo)" <gabszabo at cisco.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Aaron,
>> 
>> Have you checked the ASR9K nV Satellite feature with 9000v which can be
> placed physically as TOR device but works as a remote linecard for the
> ASR9K? You can have every service on satellite ports what you have on local
> interface of the ASR9K...
>> 
>> It is generally not recommended / preferred architecture for hosting /
> complex DC (where the Nexus family is our strong preference) but can fit for
> collocation type of services...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gabor
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf 
>>> Of Aaron
>>> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:27 PM
>>> To: 'Oliver Garraux'; 'Jeff Kell'
>>> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] data center/mpls/vpls
>>> 
>>> Thanks Oliver for the input, I'm planning on not doing L3 on 
>>> whichever DC ToR switch I go with.... and simply doing the L3 on the 
>>> uplinked ASR9006
>>> 
>>> Aaron
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf 
>>> Of Oliver Garraux
>>> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 3:51 PM
>>> To: Jeff Kell
>>> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] data center/mpls/vpls
>>> 
>>> At a large enterprise, we're using them for L2 only.  For a smallish 
>>> virtualized hosting environment we're doing L3 with them.  I think 
>>> the people working on the hosting environment are happy with them.  
>>> My concerns about L3 on the N5k are mostly about some of the limitations.
> Off the top of my head:
>>> 
>>> - you can't do ISSU with L3
>>> - it doesn't support PBR
>>> - since a port-channel is used internally to connect to the L3 
>>> module, you may not be able to effectively use 160 gbps for L3
>>> - more limited # of FEX's supported when L3 is being used.  I think 
>>> they increased it though in some version of code, so this might be 
>>> less of an issue today
>>> 
>>> If you can live with the limitations, I think L3 on the N5K is probably
> OK.
>>> Not sure that its the best choice for L3 stuff though.
>>> 
>>> Oliver
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Oliver Garraux
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Jeff Kell <jeff-kell at utc.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 4/15/2013 2:07 AM, Andrew Miehs wrote:
>>>>>> I would like a pair of top-of-rack devices that can mirror one 
>>>>>> another
>>>> if
>>>>>> possible too, like cisco's 6509-vss thing.or at least like nexus 
>>>>>> vpc (multichassis link aggregation/bundling)
>>>>> The Nexus 5Ks are pretty cheap and good if you only need L2.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm still a Nexus virgin... so excuse my naive question... but... :)
>>>> 
>>>> I've heard more than once that Nexus 5K is not quite ready for 
>>>> Layer-3 prime time, but I have also heard others swear by at (as 
>>>> opposed to swearing AT it).
>>>> 
>>>> So what's the real scoop?  Are you deploying N5K just for L2 and 
>>>> front-ending it with some other L3 device?
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
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