[c-nsp] Metro Ethernet nightmares (L2PT, PBB-VPLS, Load Balancing, EVPN)

[Mattias Gyllenvarg]

Hey Holger

EVPN is basiclly in beta and still a pipe dream on any realworld network as
far as I can see it.

Completely transparent, we react to nothing the customers sends above
ethernet switcing.

Any loadbalancing is done in IGP or in a few cases MPLS-TE manipulating IGP.

I have a feeling that your failing too separate the layers here. And also
perhaps, you may be fixing problems that you dont have yet.

We are aware of the semi-unfixable issues of AoMPLS "clouds" and are
awaiting EVPN too fix it as there is no real sollution to fix all this.
Except IP-VPN :)




On 6 May 2013 11:56, Holger L <cisco at entrap.de> wrote:

> Hi Mattias,
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 03:13, Mattias Gyllenvarg wrote:
> > From what I gathered about this.
> >
> > EVPN (BGP signaled Ethernet VPN) will solve this as there are to many
> > variants of Spanning tree that your clients can use that you today need
> to
> > implement individually toward your customers.
>
> Right, do you know any commands to implement this? All I can find about
> this is just sales foo and does not include any commands or examples.
>
> > We run QinQ in eighter ME3400 or ME3600x CPE and asr9k cores for VPLS
> > (H-VPLS) customers.
>
> Are your lines transparent for customers STP, CDP, PVST+, etc.? Which
> technology do you use, L2PT, PBB or something different?
> How do you do load balancing in your core network? By Label?
>
> > Though often not possible we try too get the customer too switch too
> > IP-VPN
> > as it is much more resilient in nature. More setup Less maintence.
>
> That's definitely true but most of the time not possible for our customers.
>
> Thanks and Best regards,
> Holger
>
>


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