[c-nsp] Core layer device n7004 vs n9396px

[Satish Patel]

Hi Nick,

Thanks for advice, and its helpful, Reason i am not going for router
because it is super costly and we have very simple network which is
not going to change for next 10 year.

We are not going to take full BGP table from ISP, all we will do just
use default route, Reason i need BGP so i can null route traffic if
someone try to DDoS our application otherwise we have no use of BGP
(we are using BGP blackhole method since last 3 year and seems working
great)

our ISP link is 40G so nexus would be good idea to just route traffic.

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Nick Cutting <ncutting at edgetg.com> wrote:
> I have use both of these as campus core's before(years apart), simple setups.  I believe the 9396PX is far cheaper for the speeds you get. Just remember what is missing - such as OTV / VDC.  Done many nexus 9k deployments in the last year, no complaints.
>
> All the BGP I have done on the 9k has been IPv4 for leaf / spine.  I still use routers on the WAN side when taking in the full tables.
>
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> Reason we are planning to terminating ISP link on Nexus switch because we have very flat setup we don't have any MPLS or any complex scenario all our data is north-south  and since last few year we are using ISP on link on switches but this time planning to get big switches.
>
> As you mentioned N9300 are not good for BGP but we have very very simple BGP setup, we don't have plan to do any kind of complex routing its going to be default route.
>
> All i want to know which switch i should use in core N7004 or N9396px if i need to pick one of them?
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Garrett Skjelstad <garrett at skjelstad.org> wrote:
>> +1 to your comment about not using ACI-designed switches with NX-OS. I
>> +too,
>> was burned by this during a migratory period.
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2018 15:59, "Igor Sukhomlinov" <dvalinswamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to question about routing.
>> Terminating uplinks from an ISP on a switch is generally not the best
>> approach. Not that it will not do the job - just you wil loose a fair
>> bit of flexibility for your internet uplink/s.
>> The best option imo is to go with ASR9k/NCS5k/NCS5500 series. If
>> you're actually planning to add flexibility for you Internet
>> connection, e.g add extra uplinks, either of these platforms will do the job easily.
>>
>> I had experience 2 years ago with Nexus9300 terminating some BGP and
>> would not recommend it. Too many limitations and inconsistencies. This
>> is a leaf switch tailored for ACI deplyments.
>>
>> Rgds,
>> Igor
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Gustav Ulander <
>> gustav.ulander at telecomputing.se> wrote:
>>
>>> How much routing are you going to do?
>>> Nexus platform is still a switch so it really depends on what
>>> features you need and not just the number of 10Gbit ports.
>>> NCS 5k platform could also be a contender perhaps?
>>>
>>> //Gustav
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>>>
>>> We are planing to get 40gbps (4x10G) bonded link from ISP and I’m
>>> looking for any good device to terminate.
>>>
>>> Should I use n7004 or n9396px for core?
>>>
>>> We have very basic network no MPLS, no cloud etc. all I need good
>>> performance and reliable hardware.
>>>
>>> Let’s say after couple year I get new 40gbps link on same hardware in
>>> that case how I will set default gw for two ISP uplink? Should I use
>>> VDC or VRF for that senario?
>>>
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