[cisco-voip] For those needing a laugh...

[Steven E. Ames]

You also have to consider the required MS licensing. Always acompanied by a groan and an ick but sometimes worth it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Cleaveland, AJ
> Allan @ IS
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:05 PM
> To: ciscovoip
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] For those needing a laugh...
> 
> 
>  And of course no demo was ever anything less than actual, functional
> product...
> 
> One of Microsoft's methods of shooting themselves in the foot (and the
> rest of us stuck with them) is that they like to come up with nice,
> controlled scenarios of use and develop to that (rather like 
> a perpetual
> demo soultion).  Take their stuff out of this pristine imaginary world
> and it shows massive problems at the fundamental level (i.e., problems
> not easily fixed).  No doubt Microsoft will design to a system
> completely consisting of only their own software with no outside links
> or worries or need to follow anyone else's protocols (like, say, the
> entire industry's) for interoperability and so on.  All once again.
> 
> Microsoft's problem is becoming that the rest of the world is seeing
> them as irrelevant and moving away from their systems.  Their
> "dominance" may soon be limited only to the US while their 
> vulnerability
> will remain world-wide (lots of countries are enjoying fining them for
> the practices we've convicted them of--and the done nothing 
> about).  And
> this may be the salvation of us all.  Especially in the 
> telephony world,
> a well-established environment, which is not the type of 
> world Microsoft
> is used to playing in.  They aren't the big boys here and they're sure
> to learn that the hard way.  Which will either rid our shelves of any
> telephony offerings from them so we needn't worry about them (not
> worrying about MS?  A dream come true!) or it will force them to learn
> interoperability and compliance with the industry for the first time.
> 
> Allan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:52 PM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi
> Cc: ciscovoip; Simon,Bill
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] For those needing a laugh...
> 
> Ummm... Don't be so quick to blast R12... I saw a demo of the 
> system and
> it makes Unity look like a child's toy. Full voice 
> recognition with full
> integration of everything you can do from Outlook (meeting scheduling,
> rescheduling, email, vmail, etc..)
> 
> It is all under NDA at the moment but from what I have been 
> seeing Cisco
> should be very afraid.
> 
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On 7/13/06, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'll bet we'll be able to forward non-primary lines though. ;)
> >
> > 
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Simon, Bill
> > To: 'ciscovoip'
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] For those needing a laugh...
> >
> > Haw haw!  Microsoft, blue screen of death, what a laughable 
> company.  
> > I'm sure glad my Cisco VoIP solution isn't built on a Microsoft
> platform.
> >
> > Erm...
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Fretz, EA Eric @ IS [mailto:Eric.A.Fretz at L-3Com.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:11 PM
> > > To: ciscovoip
> > > Subject: [cisco-voip] For those needing a laugh...
> > >
> > > Microsoft has decided to get into the VoIP / Unified messaging 
> > > market...
> > >
> > >
> > http://searchvoip.techtarget.com/columnItem/0,294698,sid66_gci
> > 1199049,00
> > > .html?track=NL-85&ad=557348&ASRC=EM_NNL_356537
> > >
> > > I can hear the help desk now, "Yes sir.... Your phone has a blue 
> > > screen?
> > > Ok, please disconnect the network cable from the phone and 
> > > [click].....<dial tone>....."
> > >
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