[cisco-voip] For those needing a laugh...

[Jonathan Charles]

Have you not seen the licensing requirements for CCM5????



Jonathan

On 7/13/06, Steven E. Ames <sames at officescape.com> wrote:
>
> You also have to consider the required MS licensing. Always acompanied by a groan and an ick but sometimes worth it.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Cleaveland, AJ
> > Allan @ IS
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:05 PM
> > To: ciscovoip
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] For those needing a laugh...
> >
> >
> >  And of course no demo was ever anything less than actual, functional
> > product...
> >
> > One of Microsoft's methods of shooting themselves in the foot (and the
> > rest of us stuck with them) is that they like to come up with nice,
> > controlled scenarios of use and develop to that (rather like
> > a perpetual
> > demo soultion).  Take their stuff out of this pristine imaginary world
> > and it shows massive problems at the fundamental level (i.e., problems
> > not easily fixed).  No doubt Microsoft will design to a system
> > completely consisting of only their own software with no outside links
> > or worries or need to follow anyone else's protocols (like, say, the
> > entire industry's) for interoperability and so on.  All once again.
> >
> > Microsoft's problem is becoming that the rest of the world is seeing
> > them as irrelevant and moving away from their systems.  Their
> > "dominance" may soon be limited only to the US while their
> > vulnerability
> > will remain world-wide (lots of countries are enjoying fining them for
> > the practices we've convicted them of--and the done nothing
> > about).  And
> > this may be the salvation of us all.  Especially in the
> > telephony world,
> > a well-established environment, which is not the type of
> > world Microsoft
> > is used to playing in.  They aren't the big boys here and they're sure
> > to learn that the hard way.  Which will either rid our shelves of any
> > telephony offerings from them so we needn't worry about them (not
> > worrying about MS?  A dream come true!) or it will force them to learn
> > interoperability and compliance with the industry for the first time.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> > Charles
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:52 PM
> > To: Lelio Fulgenzi
> > Cc: ciscovoip; Simon,Bill
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] For those needing a laugh...
> >
> > Ummm... Don't be so quick to blast R12... I saw a demo of the
> > system and
> > it makes Unity look like a child's toy. Full voice
> > recognition with full
> > integration of everything you can do from Outlook (meeting scheduling,
> > rescheduling, email, vmail, etc..)
> >
> > It is all under NDA at the moment but from what I have been
> > seeing Cisco
> > should be very afraid.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On 7/13/06, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll bet we'll be able to forward non-primary lines though. ;)
> > >
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ----------
> > > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> > > Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
> > Ontario N1G 2W1
> > > (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> > >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > "I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Simon, Bill
> > > To: 'ciscovoip'
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] For those needing a laugh...
> > >
> > > Haw haw!  Microsoft, blue screen of death, what a laughable
> > company.
> > > I'm sure glad my Cisco VoIP solution isn't built on a Microsoft
> > platform.
> > >
> > > Erm...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Fretz, EA Eric @ IS [mailto:Eric.A.Fretz at L-3Com.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:11 PM
> > > > To: ciscovoip
> > > > Subject: [cisco-voip] For those needing a laugh...
> > > >
> > > > Microsoft has decided to get into the VoIP / Unified messaging
> > > > market...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://searchvoip.techtarget.com/columnItem/0,294698,sid66_gci
> > > 1199049,00
> > > > .html?track=NL-85&ad=557348&ASRC=EM_NNL_356537
> > > >
> > > > I can hear the help desk now, "Yes sir.... Your phone has a blue
> > > > screen?
> > > > Ok, please disconnect the network cable from the phone and
> > > > [click].....<dial tone>....."
> > > >
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