[cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at Someone's House -NotesforSetup!

Thu Oct 26 15:27:00 EDT 2006

Yes it should work. I don't think IPC supports Secure SCCP or Secure RTP
(or if it does, I'm not aware).  In which case you will be running plain
text across the net.

Thanks,

Louis

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From: Justin Steinberg [mailto:jsteinberg at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:07 PM
To: Louis Marascio (lmarasci)
Cc: Casanova, Chase; Lelio Fulgenzi; Steve Miller;
cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at Someone's House
-NotesforSetup!

Is IP Communicator compatible with phone proxy?  

i.e. using communicator without any VPN client.

Justin

On 10/26/06, Louis Marascio (lmarasci) <lmarasci at cisco.com> wrote: 

	Chase,

	This is not something we specifically tested.  However, thinking
it through it /may/ work.  You will, of course, still need to VPN from
your PC for your CTIOS client.  PhoneProxy does not build a VPN tunnel,
so you can't piggy back on it for CTI OS.

	Thanks,

	Louis

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	From: Casanova, Chase [mailto:ccasanova at rti.org] 
	Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:27 AM
	To: Louis Marascio (lmarasci); Lelio Fulgenzi; Justin Steinberg;
Steve Miller
	Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net

	Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at Someone's House
-NotesforSetup!

	Will PhoneProxy work with IPCC CTIOS clients?  We are testing
the 871, 7940, and CTIOS on a laptop from home scenario.

	-Chase

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	From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> ] On Behalf Of Louis
Marascio (lmarasci)
	Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:18 PM
	To: Lelio Fulgenzi; Justin Steinberg; Steve Miller
	Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
	Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at Someone's House
-NotesforSetup!

	No worries.  It is probably partly our fault.  We were too busy
running hard to get integrated and thus orderable that we didn't have
much time to think about how to present PhoneProxy at CIPTUG.  A few of
our guys did talk about CUAE, but unfortuantely PhoneProxy didn't get
any love.

	I'm taking tommorow off, so it is Friday for me. tee hee! :)

	Louis

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	From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
	Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:10 AM
	To: Louis Marascio (lmarasci); Justin Steinberg; Steve Miller
	Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
	Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at Someone's House -
NotesforSetup!

	I don't think it's your fault Louis (unless of course you were
at CIPTUG! ;)......There were plenty of NDA sessions to talk about stuff
like this, and quite honestly, it's the place to talk about it rather
than misdirect people to another product. It's hard not to believe that
it is intentional sometimes.

	But it's almost Friday..... ;)

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	Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
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	(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)

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		----- Original Message ----- 

		From: Louis Marascio (lmarasci)
<mailto:lmarasci at cisco.com>  

		To: Lelio Fulgenzi <mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>  ; Justin
Steinberg <mailto:jsteinberg at gmail.com>  ; Steve Miller
<mailto:millerman1 at cox.net>  

		Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 

		Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59 AM

		Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at Someone's
House - NotesforSetup!

		Lelio,

		I'm sorry the messaging got confused after the
acquisition.  The original PhoneProxy product (called SCCP Proxy) that
we built at Metreos was based on the CUAE.  Prior to the acquisition, we
at Metreos had started to rebuild this product as a standalone
appliance.  It has taken us some time after the acquisition to finish
the integration, and thus finish the product.  The product is indeed
going to be available from Cisco, as a standalone appliance no longer
based on or tied to the CUAE.  In fact, it is orderable as of today! 

		Again, sorry for the confusion.  

		Best regards,

		Louis

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		From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> ] On Behalf Of Lelio
Fulgenzi
		Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:47 AM
		To: Justin Steinberg; Steve Miller
		Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
		Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at Someone's
House - NotesforSetup!

		it's so frustrating when you ask about a product you
know is there and you get told it's no longer available. 

		i'm pretty sure this was the Metreos product and i was
told the product no longer exists and was being replaced by the app
engine and you had to write it yourself!

		grrrrrrrr

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		Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
		Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
Ontario N1G 2W1
		(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
		"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."

			----- Original Message ----- 

			From: Justin Steinberg
<mailto:jsteinberg at gmail.com>  

			To: Steve Miller <mailto:millerman1 at cox.net>  

			Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 

			Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:14 AM

			Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remote 7961 Phone at
Someone's House - Notes forSetup!

			If you are planning to deploy a lot of these
setups you should ask your SE about the phone proxy product.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps7057/index.html
<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps7057/index.html%20> 

			On 10/25/06, Steve Miller < millerman1 at cox.net
<mailto:millerman1 at cox.net> > wrote: 

			The following is information that I have rec'd
regarding the installation of a 7961 at someone's house who is using
cable or DSL.  Is there anything else that we might need to think about?
Thank you!

			Notes from Cisco Engineer:

			The remote equipment at the home office would
consist of a Cisco 871 router and a Cisco phone with a power block.  The
Cisco 871 would function as the home office's firewall and router (and
would connect to either a cable modem or a DSL modem depending on the
site).  The router would be configured to have an IPSec tunnel back to
the office network (most likely configured off of your existing
concentrator).  The remote Cisco 871 would be configured with DHCP and
have the TFTP scope option set to tell all devices the IP address of the
Call Manager server (note the router has a built-in four port switch).

			  At that point, the IP Phone would register
normally to the Call Manager servers using the IPSec tunnel as it's
communication path.  The keepalives from the phone to the CM servers
would keep the IPSec tunnel up and running 24/7.

			  The restrictions on this type of deployment
are:

			                        -must use G729 codec due
to bandwidth restrictions

			                        -extremely limited QoS
control since we are going across the Internet

			                        -security policies need
to be visited since the remote office would have access to the corporate
internal network (this one is a biggie)

			                                    -sub-issue
regarding calling from home office to home office.  This is doable but
adds additional security and deployment issues.

			                        -need to consider the
standard IT management overhead associated with supporting home
equipment.

			Thank you!

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