[cisco-voip] Do you have phones (7970) still withincorrecttime? READ ME

Mon Mar 19 12:38:35 EST 2007

I like "PuckHeads" to describe users of this list......

"Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com> 
Sent by: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
03/19/2007 01:20 PM

To
"Voll, Scott" <Scott.Voll at wesd.org>
cc
Corbett Enders <cenders at homesbyavi.com>, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject
Re: [cisco-voip] Do you have phones (7970) still withincorrecttime? READ 
ME

Damned Skippy, at least the Pucksters (still working on a noun for us) 
share info... those CCIEs are all 'can't... NDA' blah...

Jonathan

On 3/19/07, Voll, Scott <Scott.Voll at wesd.org> wrote:
I like that idea too.  Like CCIE's can open a P2 case on line, 
puck.nether.net users can open a P1 case =)

Scott

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto: 
cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:07 AM
To: Ryan Ratliff
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net; Corbett Enders

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Do you have phones (7970) still 
withincorrecttime? READ ME

But you can do cool tricks with the hole (hide stuff...)

Ah, it is nice to hear that Cisco TAC has minions that handle the crappy 
stuff... (I have dealt with such minions before, these are the guys in 
IPCC who say it is a CCM issue when the script fails...) 

Could we open a new section on the Cisco Voice downloads for "Members of 
Puck.nether.net who were told to apply an ES"? Cuz we are special.

Jonathan 
On 3/19/07, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
You are implying that an SR like that would come to me :)

It was proposed putting the load in a new DevPack but unfortunately
anyone who installed the Dev Pack would have had to go back and re-
run the CM DST patch to fix their non-3rd gen phones.  It was decided 
that rather than give customer's the loaded gun with instructions
saying "point at foot, pull trigger, yell at me later" we'd just make
you yell at us without putting a hole in your foot first. 

-Ryan

On Mar 19, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Jonathan Charles wrote:

Couldn't Cisco automate this?

I only ask because it seems that it could be easier to acquire...
(and find out that the ES exists)... maybe a web form where you say, 
'hey, I am hitting this bugID, and it says to apply this ES, download
now...' Maybe a link on the bugID itself, that way you could track
who is hitting it (have us fill out a questionnaire indicating that 
we are hitting that specific bug and then letting us download it).

This would also act to alleviate some of the more annoying TAC cases
from you guys (seriously, don't you find it tedious to deal with a
ticket that just says, 'give me ES35'?)

Jonathan

On 3/19/07, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com> wrote: Because it is an
ES load that has not undergone the full testing to 
warrant posting to cisco.com.  If you want the ES, open a TAC SR.  If
you can't do this then wait for 8.2(2) which is supposed to post this
week.

Opening the TAC SR gives us hard data to go back to development and 
say X number of customers were impacted directly by this problem.

-Ryan

On Mar 18, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:

So, here's a question.

Cisco has a confirmed bug, with a fix. 

Why do we need to open a TAC case to get the fix? Why doesn't Cisco
just publish it?

I know this is going to sound a bit mean, but from the customer's
perspective, Cisco has bungled this DST thing horribly. And the 
partners are looking like Monkeys 'having unlawful carnal knowledge
of' a football.

Jonathan

On 3/16/07, Johnson, Ken < kenjohnson at letu.edu > wrote: Ok - I guess
sometimes all you have to do is send off an email and
suddelyn everything you wrote in it becomes moot. Literally seconds
after sending the last email my TAC engineer contacted me and said he 
had good news that the ES was available and he'd publish it.

Sorry for the list noise :-)

Ken Johnson
     Mgr. Network Services,
     Information Technology
     LeTourneau University
_________________________________ 
Join the Cisco IP Telecommunications User Group today
http://www.ciptug.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnson, Ken
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:48 PM
To: 'Ryan Ratliff'; Corbett Enders 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Do you have phones (7970) still with
incorrecttime? READ ME

Glad to see I wasn't the only one with this issue. I tried asking for 
8.2(1)ES5 this morning but was told that neither it nor 8.2(2) was
released and I'd need to wait for 8.2(2) to come out next Thursday.

I guess that's fine - but if anyone has success getting the ES load I'd 
like to know so I could ask again :-)

Ken Johnson
     Mgr. Network Services,
     Information Technology
     LeTourneau University
_________________________________
Join the Cisco IP Telecommunications User Group today 
http://www.ciptug.org

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Ratliff
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:49 PM
To: Corbett Enders
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Do you have phones (7970) still with 
incorrecttime? READ ME

I'm glad they finally got the field notice updated.  Also see my
email from this morning indicating that a new phone load is available
that fixes this problem.  If you do not want to wait for 8.2(2) next
week then open a TAC SR and request 8.2(1)ES5 be posted for you.

-Ryan

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