[cisco-voip] Changing 4.1(3) hostname article on CCO?

Ed Leatherman ealeatherman at gmail.com
Thu May 10 15:34:40 EDT 2007


Awesome thanks Justin, I never saw that. We'll probably do a test
run-through in the lab just to be on the safe side.

On 5/10/07, Justin Steinberg <jsteinberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I haven't tested this but I think it might work.
>
> The link below indicates that changing the hostname as part of the DMA
> upgrade process from CM 4.x to CM 5.x is supported.  If you don't want
> to read the link, here is the important sentence.
>
> "This feature allows you to import your 4.x data to a 5.1(1) server
> without having to preserve the IP Address or Host Name. The IP Address
> and/or Host name of the 5.1(1) server can differ from the 4.x
> servername."
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/products_upgrade_guides09186a0080792e84.html#wp46919
>
> You would then use TFTP settings to control which callmanager phones
> registered with.
>
> I'd open a TAC case to have them confirm this but this seems like a sane
> idea.
>
> Justin
>
> On 5/10/07, Matthew Saskin <matt at saskin.net> wrote:
> > Ahh, I misunderstood and thought you were planning on upgrading the pub
> > from the existing cluster.  I can't even guess how the name change idea
> > would work out.  Do you have a spare (off-network) server to test with?
> > VM perhaps?
> >
> > As for the multiple servers with the same hostname, that shouldn't cause
> > issues provided you're relying on local name resolution instead of DNS,
> > but this is just a semi-educated guess :)
> >
> > -matt
> >
> > Ed Leatherman wrote:
> > > My thought was to do an install on a new server for the 5.1 publisher
> > > node w/new IP Address and restore the DMA data file onto that, thereby
> > > not even touching the 4.1 publisher (other than running DMA). Would
> > > also leave 1 subscriber node from the 4.1 cluster alone, and upgrade
> > > the others and point them to the new 5.1 pub. Just not sure what would
> > > happen having two clusters with publishers having the same host name
> > > (maybe no problem?)
> > >
> > > On 5/10/07, *Matthew Saskin* <matt at saskin.net
> > > <mailto:matt at saskin.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     How do you intend to create a publisher in the "old" cluster once
> you
> > >     split them?
> > >
> > >     In theory the subscribers will keep chugging along with some
> end-user
> > >     loss of features...well, and the lack of ability to make
> > >     configuration
> > >     changes.
> > >
> > >     -matt
> > >
> > >     Ed Leatherman wrote:
> > >     > Related question, and I think the answer is also probably no but
> > >     want
> > >     > to verify...
> > >     >
> > >     > When upgrading from ccm 4.1 to 5, would it be possible to change
> > >     the
> > >     > host name of the primary node in the 5.0 cluster after loading
> > >     the DMA
> > >     > data but prior to adding any subscriber nodes?
> > >     >
> > >     > Trying to come up with a way to upgrade our system to 5 but
> leave 2
> > >     > nodes in the old cluster active to operate the call center users
> and
> > >     > IPCCX - or at least determine if its feasible. so basically to
> split
> > >     > the cluster up.
> > >     >
> > >     > On 5/10/07, *Ahmed Elnagar* < aelnagar at act-eg.com
> > >     <mailto:aelnagar at act-eg.com>
> > >     > <mailto:aelnagar at act-eg.com <mailto:aelnagar at act-eg.com>>>
> wrote:
> > >     >
> > >     >     dont even try it you will break your CM replication and will
> go
> > >     >     through alot of very strange problems.
> > >     >
> > >     >     Thanks and Best Regards
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> > >     >     *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
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> > >     >     <mailto: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > >     <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>> on behalf of Matt
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> > >     >     *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Changing 4.1(3) hostname article
> > >     on CCO?
> > >     >
> > >     >     If the customer really pushes you, create a DNS C-name
> record.
> > >     >
> > >     >     -----Original Message-----
> > >     >     From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
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> > >     <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of Ryan
> Ratliff
> > >     >     Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:58 PM
> > >     >     To: Jason Aarons (US)
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> > >     >     Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Changing 4.1(3) hostname article
> > >     on CCO?
> > >     >
> > >     >     No way, no how.
> > >     >
> > >     >     The only time you can change the hostname of a CM server is
> > >     before
> > >     >     you install CallManager on it.
> > >     >
> > >     >     -Ryan
> > >     >
> > >     >     On May 9, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Jason Aarons ((US)) wrote:
> > >     >
> > >     >     I'm trying to find a reference about server hostname changes
> for
> > >     >     production CallManager 4.1, I recall it's not advised but
> > >     can't find
> > >     >     a article on cisco.com <http://cisco.com> <http://cisco.com>
> > >     stating this -jason
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
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> > >     >
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