[cisco-voip] Problem wth freeSSHd SFTP backups on CCM 6.0

[Jerky]

I agree Cisco should have thought about it a bit more when deciding to  
force the more secure sftp/scp protocols since there aren't many(or  
maybe even any) solid choices for an sftp service on windows.

I would also hold Microsoft a bit responsible on this one too.  
Especially in light of the fact that they have slowly been shoring up  
the command line-ablity of Windows over the last few releases. There  
have been many additions the the net command in Windows 2003 and  
Monad, or PowerShell or whatever they called it, in Vista is an  
attempt to move into some new ground). I find it ridiculous that they  
still only support telnet and ftp as the only CLI tools for file  
transfer and remote login. Since 1999, the OpenSSH project has had a  
BSD licensed implementation AND source code available. BSD code can be  
free distributed without having to publish your changes. Microsoft  
aren't any strangers to using BSD'ed code, this is the snippet of  
output from using strings on a windows XP SP2 machine's nslookup. I  
believe the ftp client also uses BSD code and has similar strings.

@(#) Copyright (c) 1985,1989 Regents of the University of California.
  All rights reserved.
@(#)nslookup.c  5.39 (Berkeley) 6/24/90
A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
@(#)commands.l  5.13 (Berkeley) 7/24/90

I would suggest to voice this omission with Microsoft as well.

jeff


On Nov 24, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:

> OK, this is cool... but.
>
> We need to get Cisco to support FTP... I don't care if they splay out
> a giant warning calling us security heretics, but Cisco needs to
> support this... backups are failing because there is not a reliable
> backup solution for CallManager 5 or 6...
>
> I just checked a customer I installed six months ago... there hasn't
> been a backup done since August... why? Because it just stopped
> working.
>
> FTP is a reliable protocol and is universally supported...
>
> How do we force Cisco's hand here?
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Nov 24, 2007 1:18 PM,  <jean-francois.guay at bell.ca> wrote:
>> Had the same problem but on CCM5 - I couldn't get freeSSHd to work
>> either.  Instead I used freeFTPd which includes freeSSHd and  
>> everything
>> started to work fine. Need to disable welcome banner and logging on
>> freeFTPd if the transfer speed is too slow.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 24 novembre 2007 11:16
>> To: Jason Wydra
>> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Problem wth freeSSHd SFTP backups on CCM  
>> 6.0
>>
>> At the end of the day, you are a tragic victim of Cisco's
>> short-sightedness.
>>
>> Every Linux server on the planet has a native SFTP server built in,  
>> so
>> those environments and users think this is the coolest thing ever.
>>
>> For most environments that are running Windows, SFTP is not  
>> supported,
>> so we are forced to use really crappy applications to replicate this
>> single feature.
>>
>> The solution is a mass email, phone and scream campaign to Cisco
>> forcing them to support FTP for the backups.
>>
>> Which they won't do, because they have caught the Linux religion and
>> they drank the kool-aid.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2007 4:39 PM, Jason Wydra <jasonwydra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have a standalone SFTP server running Windows 2000. The server
>> program I'm
>>> using is freeSSHd. When I add the SFTP server as a back-up device it
>> just
>>> hangs up for 5 to 10 minutes and then comes back with "update  
>>> failed"
>> (no
>>> details). While CCM was hanging I looked at the logs on freeSSHd  
>>> and I
>> could
>>> see that I got logged in successfully and was granted the SFTP
>> service. Any
>>> ideas what might be happening?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jason
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