[cisco-voip] Fw: End-of-Sale Announcement for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Version 5.0

[Craig Staffin]

Ryan,

Although I do agree with the support side it is really hard to tell a
customer who has been on an Avaya PBX for 15 to 20 years that they need to
upgrade in 4-5 because it is no longer supported.  Normally that does not
turn into a very fun meeting.

Just my .02
Craig

On Jan 10, 2008 8:32 AM, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:

> If you look at the release schedule we've got for CUCM 4-5 years is
> forever.   Not that I think you'll see an EOL announcement for 5.1 any
> time soon but we have to get these out now so that we can stop supporting
> them down the road.    It's just part of the product's life cycle and I for
> one am ecstatic that they (the business unit that owns CUCM) are doing it
> right now.   For a long time we were supporting everything 3.0 and later
> which was a nightmare.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
> Will the .1 versions have a bit more life out of them? Granted 5 was the
> first foree into the linux world, but with 6 and 7 they should be stable
> enough to be maintained for a relatively long period no?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com>
> *To:* Craig Staffin <cmstaffin at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> ; Cisco VoIPoE List<cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:10 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Fw: End-of-Sale Announcement for Cisco Unified
> Communications Manager Version 5.0
>
> I can't imagine anyone still running 5.0 in production today, much less 4
> years from now.
> -Ryan
>
> On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Craig Staffin wrote:
>
> Yeah definatly a little surprised
>
> Although 5 was not the most stable version so my guess is that they are
> pushing people to upgrade to 5.1 or 6 so that they are on a more stable
> platform
>
> Craig
>
> On Jan 9, 2008 6:56 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
> > Is anyone else surprised by this EOL announcement? It sounded like they
> > EOL'ed 4.1 b/c of Windows 2000, so I was under the impression that with
> > the
> > linux platform they wouldn't have to EOL these things so quickly.
> >
> > Granted, everyone is "saying" that upgrades are going to be easier, but
> > there are still some wrinkles to iron out from the sounds of it. And
> > really,
> > only three and a half years away from the EOL announcement the product
> > becomes end of support? According to the doc, v5 was released in March
> > 17,
> > 2006 - but really - who's gonna install it within a year on a production
> > network? so really, you only get 4 years out of it and you are forced to
> >
> > upgrade.
> >
> > I'm not sure I'm buying into this practice.
> >
> > I think you should be able to run a telephone system for longer than 3
> > -4
> > years without being forced to upgrade.
> >
> > my two cents.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
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> > To: <lelio at uoguelph.ca  <lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:44 PM
> > Subject: End-of-Sale Announcement for Cisco Unified Communications
> > Manager
> > Version 5.0
> >
> >
> > > Message Type : End-of-sales/ End-of-life announcement
> > >
> > > Cisco announces the end-of-sale date for Cisco Unified Communications
> > > Manager Version 5.0.
> > > The last day to order the affected product(s) is June 30, 2008.
> > Customers
> > > with active service
> > > contracts will continue to receive support from the Cisco Technical
> > > Assistance Center (TAC) as
> > > shown in Table 1 of the EoL bulletin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For more details, refer to:
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