[cisco-voip] Moving / Upgrading 4.1(3) to CallManager 6.0 ?
Matthew Saskin
matt at saskin.net
Wed Jan 30 15:54:19 EST 2008
Every single IPCC (enterprise) environment I work with runs a dedicated
CallManager cluster.
A very small handful of my larger IPCCx environments are on dedicated
clusters, but they are few and far between.
-matt
Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
> How many out there have actually installed a new cluster for the IPCCx
> installation so they don't have to go through the upgrades each time
> they upgrade callmanager?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Scott Voll <mailto:svoll.voip at gmail.com>
> *To:* d4rk f1br <mailto:d4rkf1ber at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Moving / Upgrading 4.1(3) to CallManager
> 6.0 ?
>
> you have to upgrade IPCC at the same time as CM. see if you can get
> one more server out of the budget. ;-)
>
> Unity is just the TSP update.
>
> you should be OK with the licensing so long as you do a DMA out of
> CM 4.1 then do the import. this will convert your current phones /
> licensing over.
>
> if you like what you have... you may wait for CM 7.x. last I heard
> is that it will be OS independant. Meaning you can run windows or
> appliance.
>
> I find most of my info out at CIPTUG. Take with the CM BU (Wade)
> and I aslo told him that the IPCC upgrade with every CM upgrade is a
> problem. He seem to think a Version +1 should be a viable option
> but didn't know when they will get to it. Not in CM 6.x maybe 7.x.
>
> we also talked about how fast the new versions are coming out.
> Cisco is going to slow the releases. Currently they have been
> running new Version every 12 months and a minor 6 months after.
> they are going to change that to 18 months and 9 months. he heard
> our biggest issue is keeping the versions that are coming out stable.
>
> Based on the feed back at CIPTUG most users are waiting for CM 6.1
> for there upgrade. only CM 5.x installs were new installs.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Scott
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 12:27 PM, d4rk f1br <d4rkf1ber at gmail.com
> <mailto:d4rkf1ber at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Starting to 'look' at what all is involved with moving or
> upgrading to CM 6.0. Currently running CM 4.1(3) on two older
> MCS servers, just a publisher and subscriber. If the budget
> allows I am hoping to actually purchase new hardware for this
> and possibly run both versions in parrallel for testing and what
> not.
>
> Couple of things though I am concerned with is that I seem to
> recall hearing something about licensing on 6.0 for phones?
> Apparently Cisco has introduced some new licensing stuff with
> 6.0 that reminded me of unity licensing in a way.
>
> I suspect that by moving to 6.0 I would also have to look into
> Unity and IPCCX compatibility issues and the best way to address
> dealing with all things at once. If CM 6.0 requires IPCCX 6.0
> and Unity ? well thats a pretty big deal and really makes
> upgrading a huge pain in the arse obviously. Its often
> difficult enough to upgrade one thing and deal with those
> repercussions for a while, but to have to do all together well
> thats just gonna suck. :-)
>
> To me upgrading to 6.0 is really not something I believe is
> worthwhile as I don't see what we are really going to gain from
> it. However I am a tad concerned about letting things age you
> know, both hardware and software. I do see some possible
> benefits and features in some of the newer versions of either
> IPCCX and Unity, but those typically say you need your
> CallManager to be a new version. So as long as I stay humming
> along with 4.x, which in itself may be sufficient I can't
> leverage some new feature I see available in one of the other
> products.
>
> And finally I guess I would have to ask does anyone know the
> latest news on 7.0 ? I have heard and read about release dates
> in early 2009, but obviously nothing is concrete of course. It
> does however leave the person like me wondering what to do of
> course. Even if I were to dedicate myself to saying yes I am
> going to move to 6.0 this year, well it would like not happen to
> Q3 or Q4 at which time we may very well be hearing about actual
> 7.0 release dates being only months away.
>
> Its sad that things have become what they are if you ask me. So
> many versions in so a relatively short time. Whats worst is the
> people on the fringes of things, the people who happen to hear
> about this release or that and so they question why we are "so
> far behind" on our callmanager versions, or who hear about an
> upcoming callmanager release and wonder when will we move to
> this or that. Its gotten to be about as bad as trying to keep
> up with Windows versions almost. Never thought the phone system
> would become like this. Is it the price you pay for
> innovation? And is there really all that much innovation to
> warrant it? Who knows..
>
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