[cisco-voip] Moving / Upgrading 4.1(3) to CallManager 6.0 ?

[Scott Voll]

believe it or not. that was a topic at CIPTUG this year.  a lot depended on
the size as to weather or not to do that.

Scott

On Jan 30, 2008 12:49 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

>  How many out there have actually installed a new cluster for the IPCCx
> installation so they don't have to go through the upgrades each time they
> upgrade callmanager?
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com>
> *To:* d4rk f1br <d4rkf1ber at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Moving / Upgrading 4.1(3) to CallManager 6.0 ?
>
> you have to upgrade IPCC at the same time as CM.  see if you can get one
> more server out of the budget. ;-)
>
> Unity is just the TSP update.
>
> you should be OK with the licensing so long as you do a DMA out of CM 4.1then do the import.  this will convert your current phones / licensing over.
>
> if you like what you have... you may wait for CM 7.x.  last I heard is
> that it will be OS independant.  Meaning you can run windows or appliance.
>
> I find most of my info out at CIPTUG.  Take with the CM BU (Wade) and I
> aslo told him that the IPCC upgrade with every CM upgrade is a problem.  He
> seem to think a Version +1 should be a viable option but didn't know when
> they will get to it. Not in CM 6.x  maybe 7.x.
>
> we also talked about how fast the new versions are coming out.  Cisco is
> going to slow the releases.  Currently they have been running new Version
> every 12 months and a minor  6 months after.  they are going to change that
> to 18 months and 9 months.  he heard our biggest issue is keeping the
> versions that are coming out stable.
>
> Based on the feed back at CIPTUG most users are waiting for CM 6.1 for
> there upgrade.  only CM 5.x installs were new installs.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Scott
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 12:27 PM, d4rk f1br <d4rkf1ber at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Starting to 'look' at what all is involved with moving or upgrading to
> > CM 6.0.  Currently running CM 4.1(3) on two older MCS servers, just a
> > publisher and subscriber.  If the budget allows I am hoping to actually
> > purchase new hardware for this and possibly run both versions in parrallel
> > for testing and what not.
> >
> > Couple of things though I am concerned with is that I seem to recall
> > hearing something about licensing on 6.0 for phones?  Apparently Cisco
> > has introduced some new licensing stuff with 6.0 that reminded me of
> > unity licensing in a way.
> >
> > I suspect that by moving to 6.0 I would also have to look into Unity and
> > IPCCX compatibility issues and the best way to address dealing with all
> > things at once.  If CM 6.0 requires IPCCX 6.0 and Unity ? well thats a
> > pretty big deal and really makes upgrading a huge pain in the arse
> > obviously.  Its often difficult enough to upgrade one thing and deal with
> > those repercussions for a while, but to have to do all together well thats
> > just gonna suck.  :-)
> >
> > To me upgrading to 6.0 is really not something I believe is worthwhile
> > as I don't see what we are really going to gain from it.  However I am a tad
> > concerned about letting things age you know, both hardware and software.  I
> > do see some possible benefits and features in some of the newer versions of
> > either IPCCX and Unity, but those typically say you need your CallManager to
> > be a new version.  So as long as I stay humming along with 4.x, which in
> > itself may be sufficient I can't leverage some new feature I see available
> > in one of the other products.
> >
> > And finally I guess I would have to ask does anyone know the latest news
> > on 7.0 ?  I have heard and read about release dates in early 2009, but
> > obviously nothing is concrete of course.  It does however leave the person
> > like me wondering what to do of course.  Even if I were to dedicate myself
> > to saying yes I am going to move to 6.0 this year, well it would like
> > not happen to Q3 or Q4 at which time we may very well be hearing about
> > actual 7.0 release dates being only months away.
> >
> > Its sad that things have become what they are if you ask me.  So many
> > versions in so a relatively short time.  Whats worst is the people on the
> > fringes of things, the people who happen to hear about this release or that
> > and so they question why we are "so far behind" on our callmanager versions,
> > or who hear about an upcoming callmanager release and wonder when will we
> > move to this or that.  Its gotten to be about as bad as trying to keep up
> > with Windows versions almost.  Never thought the phone system would become
> > like this.  Is it the price you pay for innovation?  And is there really all
> > that much innovation to warrant it?  Who knows..
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > cisco-voip mailing list
> > cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
> >
> >
>  ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-voip/attachments/20080130/9f74ed39/attachment-0001.html