[cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1

[Voice Noob]

How much time does that take you?

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com> wrote:

> Haven't had to do that....
>
> Every time I have had replacement servers, I have always been a fan of
> replicating the existing version on one of them (say 3.3(5)Sr2 or
> whatever), restoring the customer's backup, upgrading to 4.1(3)sr5d
> then installing DMA and running it... all on an isolated VLAN.
>
> This way there is no concern about screwing with their existing
> server; also gives us a really clean backout (just swap the ethernet
> cable back...)
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for the response. If I hapen to install the wrong version of DMA
> can
> > I uninstall it and install the correct one? Has anyone had to do this?
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Frazee, Timothy <Timothy_Frazee at adp.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Install of DMA requires reboot. Make sure you do the right DMA for the
> >> right version of 6 (6.1(1a) vs. 6.1(2) )
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If you don't clean up CDR beforehand, its pretty hard on the proc, but I
> >> don't believe it stops and services. With the CPU thinking that hard on
> >> something different than ccm.exe, the subscribers might think the pub is
> >> offline.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> One thing I noticed was if I had the same config in 4.2.x vs. 4.1.3, the
> >> same DMA to 6.1(1a) would report certain things as a problem in 4.1 and
> >> wouldn't even mention them in 4.2. really weird.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> >> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voice Noob
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:37 PM
> >> To: Dennis Heim
> >> Cc: Adam; cisco-voip
> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If it is risk vs. reward I think I will make my own decision about that.
> I
> >> am asking if I run the DMA process does it cause any changes to the call
> >> manager? I need to dump out this information and load it to a vmware
> server
> >> to see if the upgrade is going to go well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Also back to my other question can I take this DMA file and restore it
> to
> >> a VMware server to see if the upgrade process will have any errors?
> Thanks.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Dennis Heim <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I tell my clients this when they want to do production changes outside
> of
> >> MAC work or other minor trival changes…. Ask yourself "Do you like your
> >> job?"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If the answer is "yes" then you may not want to run DMA during the day.
> >> Running DMA is pretty CPU intensive… you are writing out the entire SQL
> >> database into flat files.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dennis Heim
> >> Network Voice Engineer
> >> Berbee
> >> 11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225
> >> Carmel, IN  46032
> >>
> >> 317.569.4255 Office
> >> 317.569.4201 Fax
> >> 317.694.6070 Cell
> >>
> >> dennis.heim at cdw.com
> >> www.berbee.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> >> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voice Noob
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:19 PM
> >> To: Adam
> >> Cc: cisco-voip
> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> THanks alot for the help. Does anyone know or has anyone tried to use
> the
> >> DMA tool and restore the information to a VMware server just to test the
> >> upgrade? I will not have access to the hardware before I go onsite for
> these
> >> customers but can get the DMA file transferred to myself. Also can I run
> >> this in the middle of the day? Will it stop the publisher from
> functioning?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Adam <cisco at adman.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Best piece of advice I can offier is to allow plenty of time to run the
> >> DMA tool and resolve any error or warnings before your planned cutover
> time.
> >> I've had upgrades with no warnings and errors, then I've had upgrades
> that
> >> had two days worth of TAC cases to get it all resolved before we got a
> good
> >> DMA tar file.
> >>
> >> On the Unity upgrades make sure that your Unity server is talking to the
> >> nearest DC/GC (see the reconfiguration guide for details -
> >>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/unity/5x/upgrade/guide/ex/5xcuruge060.html
> ).
> >> I had one  upgrade where it had attached to a server across the WAN so
> the
> >> AD synch part that should have been a twenty or thirty minute deal ended
> up
> >> taking five hours... not something you want to hit cancel on in the
> middle,
> >> but it did mean we blew through our maintenance window.
> >>
> >> -Adam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Speaking of upgrades, does anyone have any good resources or tips? I
> have
> >> about 10 upgrades from 4.1 to 6.1 and Unity 4.0 to Unity 5.0/7.0 in the
> next
> >> 6 months. I have my first one next week. Any info that could be provided
> I
> >> would appreciate.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM, omar parihuana <
> omar.parihuana at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks James for your prompt response...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We're going to use a new MCS server this new server have 2GB RAM and
> 72GB
> >> HDD. However the current server only have 18GB and unfortunately the
> unit C
> >> only have 2.5GB of free space. Still I don't try to run DMA but I don't
> know
> >> if the 4GB is strictly necessary.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rgds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/6/08, James Buchanan <jbuchanan at ctiusa.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What is the total capacity of the hard drive? 36GB? 72GB? 6.1 requires
> >> 72GB.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> >> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of omar parihuana
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:25 PM
> >> To: cisco-voip
> >> Subject: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi list,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have to migrate a CCM from 4.1 to 6.1 unfortunately the disk C: space
> is
> >> not enough, in accordance to DMA requeriments 4GB is necessary, so after
> of
> >> delete CDR and others files, I have 2.5GB of free space in unit C: in D
> only
> >> 200Mbps. Then my question is: is it strictly necessary 4GB in unit C in
> >> order to run DMA? or 2.5GB will be enough, because I'm thinking export
> the
> >> .tar file in other unit (maybe network unit) What other things can I
> delete
> >> into CCM in order to get more space?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for your suggestions.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rgds.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Omar E.P.T
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Omar E.P.T
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> >>
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