[cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1

Jonathan Charles jonvoip at gmail.com
Mon Jul 7 08:10:50 EDT 2008 

Prob about 3 hrs... but it isn't like it is a constant 3 hrs.... I do
other stuff...

And in the end, I know everything is clean, and the DMA isn't running
on some old server with a Pentium 3 in it....



Jonathan

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:
> How much time does that take you?
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Haven't had to do that....
>>
>> Every time I have had replacement servers, I have always been a fan of
>> replicating the existing version on one of them (say 3.3(5)Sr2 or
>> whatever), restoring the customer's backup, upgrading to 4.1(3)sr5d
>> then installing DMA and running it... all on an isolated VLAN.
>>
>> This way there is no concern about screwing with their existing
>> server; also gives us a really clean backout (just swap the ethernet
>> cable back...)
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks for the response. If I hapen to install the wrong version of DMA
>> > can
>> > I uninstall it and install the correct one? Has anyone had to do this?
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Frazee, Timothy
>> > <Timothy_Frazee at adp.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Install of DMA requires reboot. Make sure you do the right DMA for the
>> >> right version of 6 (6.1(1a) vs. 6.1(2) )
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If you don't clean up CDR beforehand, its pretty hard on the proc, but
>> >> I
>> >> don't believe it stops and services. With the CPU thinking that hard on
>> >> something different than ccm.exe, the subscribers might think the pub
>> >> is
>> >> offline.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> One thing I noticed was if I had the same config in 4.2.x vs. 4.1.3,
>> >> the
>> >> same DMA to 6.1(1a) would report certain things as a problem in 4.1 and
>> >> wouldn't even mention them in 4.2. really weird.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>> >> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voice Noob
>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:37 PM
>> >> To: Dennis Heim
>> >> Cc: Adam; cisco-voip
>> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If it is risk vs. reward I think I will make my own decision about
>> >> that. I
>> >> am asking if I run the DMA process does it cause any changes to the
>> >> call
>> >> manager? I need to dump out this information and load it to a vmware
>> >> server
>> >> to see if the upgrade is going to go well.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Also back to my other question can I take this DMA file and restore it
>> >> to
>> >> a VMware server to see if the upgrade process will have any errors?
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Dennis Heim <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I tell my clients this when they want to do production changes outside
>> >> of
>> >> MAC work or other minor trival changes…. Ask yourself "Do you like your
>> >> job?"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If the answer is "yes" then you may not want to run DMA during the day.
>> >> Running DMA is pretty CPU intensive… you are writing out the entire SQL
>> >> database into flat files.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dennis Heim
>> >> Network Voice Engineer
>> >> Berbee
>> >> 11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225
>> >> Carmel, IN  46032
>> >>
>> >> 317.569.4255 Office
>> >> 317.569.4201 Fax
>> >> 317.694.6070 Cell
>> >>
>> >> dennis.heim at cdw.com
>> >> www.berbee.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>> >> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voice Noob
>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:19 PM
>> >> To: Adam
>> >> Cc: cisco-voip
>> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> THanks alot for the help. Does anyone know or has anyone tried to use
>> >> the
>> >> DMA tool and restore the information to a VMware server just to test
>> >> the
>> >> upgrade? I will not have access to the hardware before I go onsite for
>> >> these
>> >> customers but can get the DMA file transferred to myself. Also can I
>> >> run
>> >> this in the middle of the day? Will it stop the publisher from
>> >> functioning?
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Adam <cisco at adman.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Best piece of advice I can offier is to allow plenty of time to run the
>> >> DMA tool and resolve any error or warnings before your planned cutover
>> >> time.
>> >> I've had upgrades with no warnings and errors, then I've had upgrades
>> >> that
>> >> had two days worth of TAC cases to get it all resolved before we got a
>> >> good
>> >> DMA tar file.
>> >>
>> >> On the Unity upgrades make sure that your Unity server is talking to
>> >> the
>> >> nearest DC/GC (see the reconfiguration guide for details -
>> >>
>> >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/unity/5x/upgrade/guide/ex/5xcuruge060.html).
>> >> I had one  upgrade where it had attached to a server across the WAN so
>> >> the
>> >> AD synch part that should have been a twenty or thirty minute deal
>> >> ended up
>> >> taking five hours... not something you want to hit cancel on in the
>> >> middle,
>> >> but it did mean we blew through our maintenance window.
>> >>
>> >> -Adam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Speaking of upgrades, does anyone have any good resources or tips? I
>> >> have
>> >> about 10 upgrades from 4.1 to 6.1 and Unity 4.0 to Unity 5.0/7.0 in the
>> >> next
>> >> 6 months. I have my first one next week. Any info that could be
>> >> provided I
>> >> would appreciate.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM, omar parihuana
>> >> <omar.parihuana at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks James for your prompt response...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We're going to use a new MCS server this new server have 2GB RAM and
>> >> 72GB
>> >> HDD. However the current server only have 18GB and unfortunately the
>> >> unit C
>> >> only have 2.5GB of free space. Still I don't try to run DMA but I don't
>> >> know
>> >> if the 4GB is strictly necessary.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rgds.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 7/6/08, James Buchanan <jbuchanan at ctiusa.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What is the total capacity of the hard drive? 36GB? 72GB? 6.1 requires
>> >> 72GB.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> James
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>> >> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of omar parihuana
>> >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:25 PM
>> >> To: cisco-voip
>> >> Subject: [cisco-voip] About DMA // Upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi list,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have to migrate a CCM from 4.1 to 6.1 unfortunately the disk C: space
>> >> is
>> >> not enough, in accordance to DMA requeriments 4GB is necessary, so
>> >> after of
>> >> delete CDR and others files, I have 2.5GB of free space in unit C: in D
>> >> only
>> >> 200Mbps. Then my question is: is it strictly necessary 4GB in unit C in
>> >> order to run DMA? or 2.5GB will be enough, because I'm thinking export
>> >> the
>> >> .tar file in other unit (maybe network unit) What other things can I
>> >> delete
>> >> into CCM in order to get more space?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your suggestions.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rgds.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Omar E.P.T
>> >> -----------------
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Omar E.P.T
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>> >>
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