[cisco-voip] CCM software upgrade differences

[Krzysztof]

Well, the most interfesting thing is that both products contain
exactly the same CDs/DVDs, including OS 2003.1.1 and 4.3(2) upgrade.
Where is the trick?


Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:52:55 AM, you wrote:

> I believe the migration license would be needed to basically get the
> Windows 2003 OS for that server, which is why it would be significantly
> cheaper. The upgrade partner should be all you need. However, I would
> ask your partner to ensure that the upgrade partner includes the Win2K3
> OS.
>         
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Krzysztof
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:03 PM
> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM software upgrade differences


> Well, according to upgrade release notes the server I currently use
> (MCS-7835H-2.4-EVV1) can be used for 4.3. The only thing I have to do
> is to upgrade RAM to 2GB (done) and disks to 72GB. As this server is
> EoL it will be replaced, but probably next year (cost savings, not
> budgeted for this year).


> Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:50:41 PM, you wrote:

>> I would doubt that any server running 3.3 can be upgraded to 4.3 on
> the same
>> hardware.  I would make the partner engage Cisco and have Cisco sign
> off on
>> what you are trying to do so you know the partner is not selling you
> the
>> wrong product.

>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Krzysztof <cshyshtof at gmail.com>
> wrote:

>>>
>>> I don't get it. If I upgrade 3.3 to 4.3 on the same server (I do not
>>> buy a new one), then I have to buy CM4.3-U-K9-7835, right? However,
>>> the offer received from Cisco partner also stated CM4.3-K9-MIG0.
> Could
>>> it have been added by mistake (they assumed new server will be
>>> bought)? So, to sum up, I have to use CM4.3-U-K9-7835 to upgrade 3.3
>>> to 4.3 on the same server, and then, after I buy new server (7835) in
>>> the future I could only use CM4.3-K9-MIG0 for re-installing the same
>>> 4.3 on the new box. Am I right?
>>>
>>> Krzysztof
>>>
>>>
>>> Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:34:32 PM, you wrote:
>>>
>>> > Yes this is exactly how it works. They make it expensive to upgrade
> so
>>> you
>>> > will just keep UCSS on it.
>>>
>>> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> I'm not a Cisco price list / product number expert (is anyone?)
> but I'm
>>> >> pretty sure this is the case (since I've gone through this
>>> recently)...and
>>> >> this is gonna get your goat for sure...
>>> >>
>>> >> Picture this, your current 7835 server is now end of life, so you
> buy a
>>> new
>>> >> 7835 server, right? Well, get this, hold on to your hats, you have
> to
>>> buy
>>> >> the same server class migration product number. Yes, if you retire
> one
>>> >> server and re-install onto a new server you have to pay for it!
>>> >>
>>> >> This is what I was told, I'm just relaying information.
>>> >>
>>> >> The other product is what you need when you are upgrading from 3.x
> to
>>> 4.x
>>> >> using the 7835.
>>> >>
>>> >> Here's something else....if you want to upgrade from 3.3 to 4.1
> and
>>> you're
>>> >> going from a 7835 to a 7845, then you need to upgrade two times,
> but
>>> there
>>> >> are two paths: (A) upgrade from 3.3 7835 to 3.3 7845 and then to
> 4.X
>>> 7845
>>> >> -or- (B) upgrade from 3.3 7835 to 4.x 7835 and then upgrade to 4.x
> 7845.
>>> >>
>>> >> I can't remember, but one of the path's is a few thousand dollars
> less!
>>> >>
>>> >> Lelio
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
>>> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>> >> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G
> 2W1
>>> >> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>> >>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> >> ...seen on a Geek Squad patch cord: "While it is the same length,
> this
>>> 7'
>>> >> crossover cable
>>> >> is not regulation issue for most competitive Manhattan double
> dutch
>>> >> leagues.
>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krzysztof"
> <cshyshtof at gmail.com>
>>> >> To: <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>> >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:13 PM
>>> >> Subject: [cisco-voip] CCM software upgrade differences
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Can anyone tell me what is the difference between CM4.3-K9-MIG0
> (SW
>>> >>> CallMgr 4.3 Same Server Class Migration) and CM4.3-U-K9-7835 (SW
>>> >>> CallMgr 3.3 To 4.3 Upgd, MCS-7835, 2500 Svr Usr Lic)? Both
> products
>>> >>> contain exactly the same set of CDs. The only difference I see is
> that
>>> >>> the first one is 500 USD and the second on is 5000 USD!!! Which
> one
>>> >>> should I then use to upgrade from 3.3 to 4.3?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>> Krzysztof
>>> >>>
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