[cisco-voip] CCM software upgrade differences

Tue Jul 15 14:04:01 EDT 2008

I think it's just as Lelio described, with the first one being an  
upgrade for a server you have already bought the software for, versus  
an upgrade with new hardware (have to buy the software again due to  
our MS licensing agreements).

-Ryan

On Jul 14, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Krzysztof wrote:

Well, the most interfesting thing is that both products contain
exactly the same CDs/DVDs, including OS 2003.1.1 and 4.3(2) upgrade.
Where is the trick?

Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:52:55 AM, you wrote:

> I believe the migration license would be needed to basically get the
> Windows 2003 OS for that server, which is why it would be  
> significantly
> cheaper. The upgrade partner should be all you need. However, I would
> ask your partner to ensure that the upgrade partner includes the  
> Win2K3
> OS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Krzysztof
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:03 PM
> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM software upgrade differences

> Well, according to upgrade release notes the server I currently use
> (MCS-7835H-2.4-EVV1) can be used for 4.3. The only thing I have to do
> is to upgrade RAM to 2GB (done) and disks to 72GB. As this server is
> EoL it will be replaced, but probably next year (cost savings, not
> budgeted for this year).

> Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:50:41 PM, you wrote:

>> I would doubt that any server running 3.3 can be upgraded to 4.3 on
> the same
>> hardware.  I would make the partner engage Cisco and have Cisco sign
> off on
>> what you are trying to do so you know the partner is not selling you
> the
>> wrong product.

>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Krzysztof <cshyshtof at gmail.com>
> wrote:

>>>
>>> I don't get it. If I upgrade 3.3 to 4.3 on the same server (I do not
>>> buy a new one), then I have to buy CM4.3-U-K9-7835, right? However,
>>> the offer received from Cisco partner also stated CM4.3-K9-MIG0.
> Could
>>> it have been added by mistake (they assumed new server will be
>>> bought)? So, to sum up, I have to use CM4.3-U-K9-7835 to upgrade 3.3
>>> to 4.3 on the same server, and then, after I buy new server  
>>> (7835) in
>>> the future I could only use CM4.3-K9-MIG0 for re-installing the same
>>> 4.3 on the new box. Am I right?
>>>
>>> Krzysztof
>>>
>>>
>>> Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:34:32 PM, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes this is exactly how it works. They make it expensive to upgrade
> so
>>> you
>>>> will just keep UCSS on it.
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'm not a Cisco price list / product number expert (is anyone?)
> but I'm
>>>>> pretty sure this is the case (since I've gone through this
>>> recently)...and
>>>>> this is gonna get your goat for sure...
>>>>>
>>>>> Picture this, your current 7835 server is now end of life, so you
> buy a
>>> new
>>>>> 7835 server, right? Well, get this, hold on to your hats, you have
> to
>>> buy
>>>>> the same server class migration product number. Yes, if you retire
> one
>>>>> server and re-install onto a new server you have to pay for it!
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I was told, I'm just relaying information.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other product is what you need when you are upgrading from 3.x
> to
>>> 4.x
>>>>> using the 7835.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's something else....if you want to upgrade from 3.3 to 4.1
> and
>>> you're
>>>>> going from a 7835 to a 7845, then you need to upgrade two times,
> but
>>> there
>>>>> are two paths: (A) upgrade from 3.3 7835 to 3.3 7845 and then to
> 4.X
>>> 7845
>>>>> -or- (B) upgrade from 3.3 7835 to 4.x 7835 and then upgrade to 4.x
> 7845.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't remember, but one of the path's is a few thousand dollars
> less!
>>>>>
>>>>> Lelio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> --
> --------
>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G
> 2W1
>>>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>>>>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>> ...seen on a Geek Squad patch cord: "While it is the same length,
> this
>>> 7'
>>>>> crossover cable
>>>>> is not regulation issue for most competitive Manhattan double
> dutch
>>>>> leagues.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krzysztof"
> <cshyshtof at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:13 PM
>>>>> Subject: [cisco-voip] CCM software upgrade differences
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what is the difference between CM4.3-K9-MIG0
> (SW
>>>>>> CallMgr 4.3 Same Server Class Migration) and CM4.3-U-K9-7835 (SW
>>>>>> CallMgr 3.3 To 4.3 Upgd, MCS-7835, 2500 Svr Usr Lic)? Both
> products
>>>>>> contain exactly the same set of CDs. The only difference I see is
> that
>>>>>> the first one is 500 USD and the second on is 5000 USD!!! Which
> one
>>>>>> should I then use to upgrade from 3.3 to 4.3?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Krzysztof
>>>>>>
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