[cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling

Sun Dec 6 17:04:27 EST 2009

https://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/security/7_0_1/secugd/secrealm.html
Sip releam settings can be used for authentication. I have configured this
once for sip trunk for Astrix. I would agree CUBE is better for sip trunking
but CUCM does have this option.

HTH

Aman

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Dennis Heim <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com> wrote:

>  If you are placing SIP trunks at remote sites you need to do CUBE for
> survivability. If you a trunking directly from an off-site CM… SRST is
> pretty much useless because you are not terminating the trunk locally.
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> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Mark Holloway
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:36 PM
> *To:* Jason Aarons
>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling
>
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> Add TelePacific to your list.  Currently we have certified CME, Asterisk,
> Allworx, Shoretel, Toshiba, Avaya, Siemens, Linksys, and are in the process
> of certifying Mitel, for SIP Trunking (and more in the pipeline for 2010).
>  Thankfully the Marketing folks at my company listened and we are deploying
> ISR's running CUBE for every install now to trunk into Broadsoft Broadworks.
>  We originally attempted to certify with a handful of firewalls but the NAT
> traversal problems were different based on the IP PBX being tested and would
> be a nightmare to manage what works and what doesn't.  Eventually we
> narrowed it down to Pix/ASA firewall required but of course there are many
> customers with Sonicwall (among others) who did not want to swap.  Now we
> drop in an ISR parallel to the customers firewall so they can keep their
> existing hardware, have the customer give us a private IP for one Ethernet
> port on the ISR, and the PBX SIP Trunk points to the ISR and we handle the
> rest.  CUBE is a life saver!
>
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> On Dec 6, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Jason Aarons (US) wrote:
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>   I opened a TAC case 613141081 and they confirmed you need a CUBE for the
> username/password.
>
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>
> So in short Skype for SIP is not certified for Cisco CallManager, but is
> certified for Cisco Unified Border Element (CUBE).  Devil is in the details,
> but I feel no reasonable small business looking at Skype understands the
> benefits of CUBE feature licensing and will want to run direct to
> CallManager and will look at Paetec, Broadsoft, Verizon, Packet or any of
> the many Skype to Gateway solutions out there…. my personal opinion -jason
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> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Jason Aarons (US)
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:48 AM
> *To:* Aman Chugh
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling
>
>
>
> In CallManager 7.1 where do I input SIP realm settings for the Trunk to
> Skype?
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> *From:* Aman Chugh [mailto:aman.chugh at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2009 9:36 PM
> *To:* Jason Aarons (US)
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling
>
>
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> You can use SIP realm settings to create username and passwords for this.
>
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>
> Regards,
>
> Aman
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Jason Aarons (US) <
> jason.aarons at us.didata.com> wrote:
>
> I expect a low cost provider like Skype isn’t going to have any support!
>
>
>
> I signed up for Skype for Business and started to set up Skype for SIP
> tonight direct to a CallManager 7.1.3 box (no CUBE), I’m not clear where in
> CCMAdmin I can enter my Skype username/password, or if a CUBE is required
> for authentication.  Anyone else setup Skype for SIP and have some tips?
>
>
>
> Since CallManager is certified I expected Skype’s website to have some
> advice, but the best you get is contact the PBX manufacturer…
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Dane Newman
> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2009 2:42 PM
> *To:* Wes Sisk
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net; Fried Michael
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling
>
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>
> Has anyone used skype sip trunks and can report there exp?  I hear there
> support is a nightmare
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Wes Sisk <wsisk at cisco.com> wrote:
>
> Skype appears to offer SIP trunks now:
> http://www.macworld.com/article/144694/2009/12/skypebiz.html?lsrc=rss_main
>
> might be an interesting experiment.
>
> /Wes
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 04, 2009 12:00:39 PM, Matt Slaga (US)
> <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com> <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com> wrote:
>
>   Other than using MSN and Yahoo or skype point to point for free, there
> are no completely free options out there.  At least, none that are legal.
>
>
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> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [
> mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>
> ] *On Behalf Of *Fried Michael
> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2009 11:41 AM
> *To:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I know this isn’t strictly Cisco Technical but was hoping you all could
> help me out.
>
> We have a US-based Call Center that will start making hundreds of international
> calls each day and we don't want to pay the phone company (surprise), we
> don't have VoIP in the countries we need to call so TEHO won’t work.
> There are a ton of online services and Skype for SIP, anyone have any
> experience with beating the system with creative solutions that avoid the
> toll?
>
> Thank you in advance and a good weekend to all!
>
> Mike
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