[cisco-voip] translation pattern

Sat Jan 31 11:00:40 EST 2009

If I'm not mistaken, the only way this would be possible, is that each
destination number the dial string is translated to must be exactly the
same, with the the exception of the digits you're carrying forward.

e.g. you can't have 12001 translate to 90114010390239020 and 12002 translate
to 901134384920392 using a single tranlsation pattern.   You can however
have 12001 translate to 901140303482012001 and 12002 translate to
901140303482012002 using single translation pattern of 12XXX.

To do the latter, prefix 9011403034820 (or whatever the destination number
will be excluded the original dial string) in the translation pattern.  You
can also use a transform mask of 9011403034820XXXXX, where the X's represent
the number of original digits to carry forward with the transformed number.

If you have different countries you're calling into, you'll need a different
translation pattern for each unique destination number or country being
called.

This part applies only to Call Manager 4.x and earlier.    I believe you can
use additional wildcards in translation patterns such as 120[23]0.  This
would match both 12020 and 12030.   Or something like 1200[3-7].  So if you
want to configure ranges of number for a specific number, in a specific
country you could do that.  I haven't figured out how to do this in UCM 5+.

If that's inaccurate for just flat out wrong, hopefully someone will correct
me so I'm not spewing invalid info.

On 1/30/09, kurakani <kurakani at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   I want to be able to use wild cards in translation pattern to route
> calls to external numbers. currently i have created multiple translation
> patterns (ie. 12100, 12101, 12103 etc all pointing to
> 9011countrycode+citycode+number format). rather than me creating so many TPs
> with all starting with 12xxx, i want to use wildcards so that I just have to
> create a single TP all pointing to the same 9011countrycode+citycode+number
> format. please help me how do i accomplish this.
>
> thanks alot.
>
> --- On *Fri, 1/30/09, Syed Khalid Ali <syed.khalid.khursheed at gmail.com>*wrote:
>
>
> From: Syed Khalid Ali <syed.khalid.khursheed at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCIE Voice or CCIE R&S
> To: nikola at att.net
> Cc: "VOIP Group" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 1:06 AM
>
> Thanks to all.
>
> I have decided to go with R&S due fact that it will help me most with
> my work and company. Also it is easy to prepare for since resources
> (including finance and study material) is easily available.
>
> I will be scheduling my written exam by 3rd March 2009.
>
> Again thank you all for your comments and advices.
>
> Best regards,
> Syed Khalid Ali
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Nikola Stojsin <nikolastojsin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Just a quick clarification – all I meant to say is that CCVP (IMHO –
> and I
> > might be wrong!) is closer to CCIE Voice then CCNP is to CCIE R&S.
> (Closer –
> > not close! Also, I might be thinking differently if I decide to go for
> CCIE
> > Voice as well! Likely, based on what Ahmed said.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, Ahmed makes a great point: time management at the lab! It is not
> > enough to know, you have to DO it in the time provided. For what is worth,
> > this is what helped me: I set myself a rigid schedule (for R&S): one
> hour
> > for settling down, initial reading and lab schema (yes, I used
> multicolored
> > pencils), one hour for Layer 2 and ATM, one hour for IGPs, one hour for
> IGP
> > redistribution and DDR circuits. After lunch (30 minutes) one hour for
> BGP,
> > two hours for various "minor" technologies (read: trick
> questions!) that you
> > may or may not have to look up (I do not think anyone works with, say,
> IRDP
> > on an everyday basis!), and one hour for the review. However ridiculous it
> > may look, I do not think I would have passed without adhering to it. Even
> > more ridiculous – but nevertheless true – is that my biggest problem
> when I
> > was sitting for the lab was that I am a fairly fast typist, but my
> everyday
> > typing is on MS Natural Keyboards. And, needless to say, Cisco is not
> > providing those in the lab. There is enough typing for that to make a
> > difference – and I almost run out of time thanks to the #!@#$ keyboard.
> > (Please do not laugh!)
> >
> >
> >
> > Finally, about which CCIE one should get: I do not think it really
> matters.
> > (It certainly did not matter for me.) Get the one that helps the most in
> > your work, your company and involves the least effort. (It is definitely
> > better to be one of three Voice CCIEs than one of 51 R&S ones!) In
> defense
> > of "my" R&S, it is the easiest to get, with most CCIEs, but
> it also has the
> > broadest scope, job-wise. CCIE Voice is great, IMHO, because there are not
> > that many CCIEs, and the scope is fairly broad (compared with, say,
> Service
> > Provider). I do not think there is much difference between Security and
> R&S,
> > difficulty-wise (I cannot speak about Voice or Design labs). Finally, one
> > can get more than one – if one really wants to stand out.  J
> >
> >
> >
> > Ahmed, good luck! I have it from a very good source that people that get
> the
> > score of 60 or more on their first attempt have close to 100% success rate
> > on the next one.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nikola
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> > Nikola Stojsin
> >
> > PhD CCIE #12888
> >
> > President
> >
> > Network Makers LLC
> >
> > 110 Wall Street, 11th Floor
> >
> > New York, NY 10005
> >
> > (212) 709-8201
> >
> > (212) 706-2986 (fax)
> >
> > nikolas at networkmakers.com
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmed Elnagar
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:21 PM
> > To: svoll.voip at gmail.com; syed.khalid.khursheed at gmail.com
> > Cc: VOIP Group
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCIE Voice or CCIE R&S
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I totally agree with scott, but I want to add something...I did an attempt
> > for the CCIE voice and I am planning for another one soon...my average
> score
> > was 60% and all the question in the exam know them very well...nothing was
> > that difficult for me...my mistake was in two things:
> >
> > 1- I changed my plan in last moment... changed the order by which I used
> to
> > answer the exam question so I needed up while reviewing the exam that I
> > forget to configure SRST and MOH...and you know the stress in this last
> hour
> > is too much that I couldn't tune them as required in the exam
> question.
> >
> > Voice exam is really difficult... maybe as Nikola said it is very similar
> to
> > CCVP (I used to say so) but really they do tricks in two many ways that
> > requires from the candidate to be very familiar with every configuration
> > that can be done with these devices (and they are not just routers and
> > switches like the R&S)...so your work in the lab for very long periods
> is
> > very required.
> >
> > Also to add another point...the value of the CCIE R&S is going down
> > everyday...although still required as the easiest way to achieve
> partnership
> > levels with Cisco "Silver and gold" but voice and security
> tracks are still
> > very rare...for example here in Egypt I think we have only 2 CCIE voice
> > although we on Cisco site we should have around 50 CCIEs.
> >
> > If you go for voice make sure that you will have enough time to practice
> and
> > practice and practice...and you should consider in your plan that it is
> most
> > likely not to do the exam from first attempt "although not impossible
> by the
> > way"...although consider the new blueprint and the new diffculty in
> the exam
> > topics...minor tasks like vlan configuration phone registration are done
> for
> > you...advanced IPCC scripting is introduced...presence server also...the
> > removal of the 6500 switch is not that big as the configuration tasks
> > requires for this switch was relatively easy.
> >
> > Good luck and wish me luck in my second attempt :) .
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ahmed Elnagar
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:12:28 -0800
> > From: svoll.voip at gmail.com
> > To: syed.khalid.khursheed at gmail.com
> > CC: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCIE Voice or CCIE R&S
> >
> > I was headed toward the CCIE Voice.  Let me tell you, unless you working
> on
> > voice 40 hours a week and in all aspects, CM, CME, Unity, UE, UC, UCCx,
> SIP,
> > MGCP, H323, and every aspect of each and are still willing to lock
> yourself
> > in a lab for 3 months before taking the test, I would NOT try for the CCIE
> > Voice.  You need to be able to do every command by memory, and know what
> can
> > be done last so you never hit the same thing twice.
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe the average pass on the CCIE Voice is the 3rd attempt.
> >
> >
> >
> > My understanding is the R/S is a whole lot easier (if you can call a CCIE
> > exam Easy ;-).
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Syed Khalid Ali
> > <syed.khalid.khursheed at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I have a data network background and for last 1.5 years I am working
> > more R&S and Security stuff. However during my course toward CCVP, I
> > did some projects of IP telephony (specifically CME) as well. I also
> > inherited a CallManager 4.2 setup as well.
> >
> > However, I am not able to decide b/w the two. Should I go for CCIE R&S
> > or Voice. R&S is easy as compared to Voice in terms of time and
> > resources and most of the people have attained this title. Whereas the
> > Voice track although focused on product instead of technologies, the
> > resources are rare (at-least in my country) and requires more time to
> > be prepared.
> > Need suggestions and advice!
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Syed Khalid Ali
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