[cisco-voip] CCIE Amnesty?

Larry Hadrava larryh at ipexpert.com
Mon Jul 20 17:59:22 EDT 2009


I received this note from Eman a little while ago and he asked me to share
it with you.

I cannot confirm or deny any of this, but I have been faced with this
situation before.
For direct questions please contact Eman: eman at ccieflyer.com



*CCIE Amnesty Program*

What does amnesty mean?  Well it has been years since I thumbed through my
Funk and Wagnalls dictionary so I could not actually find it!  Instead I
hopped on-line and looked it up.

*Noun1.amnesty* - a period during which offenders are exempt from punishment

*Verb1.amnesty* - grant a pardon to (a group of people)

If you have not been informed there are many ways to use your CCIE number.  A
few of these methods are frowned upon by Cisco and can even cost you that
hard earned number.  Yes, recently I personally witnessed the revoking of a
pair of CCIEs who had associated their numbers to a channel they did not
work for.  This is strictly forbidden by Cisco and can result in severe
penalties to the Channel and the CCIE.  (see
http://www.itworld.com/networking/69359/innocuous-or-unethical )

I felt pretty badly about the CCIEs losing their certifications and wanted
to help prevent this as much as I can.  So I called Monica (my best friend
at Cisco <http://www.ccieflyer.com/2009-Mar-Monica-Cojocneanu.php>) and we
put our heads together to come up with a solution.  From this chat the CCIE
Amnesty program was born.

The rules are very clear about CCIEs whose numbers are used to help advance
channel partners reseller status.  The CCIE must work and live where the
company is located.  Number associations have been done in some creative
ways both with and without the CCIE’s participation.  As I described in
February on my blog http://www.ccieagent.com/ in the story , “CCIE Hostage
Stand-Off”, sometimes unsuspecting CCIEs are fooled by a company simply to
get them to associate their number.  The company in this story after passing
the Cisco Audit put the CCIEs on unpaid leave.  In other cases the CCIE
simply succumbs to the temptation to associate their number because their
real employer has no use for it.  So they get a small fee for the number and
are never utilized by the company, I call this a Rent-A-Cert.   This is a
name used by a company acting as a recruiting company but in actuality
putting certified individuals in harm’s way.

Here’s our plan, for the next 90 days I am asking any CCIE who is in a
situation where their CCIE number is associated with a company they are not
really working for to step forward and I will have their number released
from that employer with no repercussions or penalties.  The company will
then have nine months to resolve their need and the CCIE will help another
CCIE have a shot at a real job.  Think about it, if you have your number
associated with a company that needs the number you are taking a job away
from another CCIE who needs a job.

How to proceed.

Send me an email eman at ccieflyer.com and I will call you to begin the
process.  I will keep you out of hot water and help the channel partner
replace you with a real CCIE to join their staff.   If you are the victim of
a channel that is holding your number against your will I will help release
your number also without reprisals to the channel partner in question.

Tell your friends tell your coworkers but most of all tell the man in the
mirror (ala Michael Jackson <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9lq8oaK5Mw>)
it’s wrong so let’s clean it up!  There is an effort to identify the
fraudulent associations so please take advantage of this amnesty before you
get a letter from Cisco about your CCIE number being revoked!

 Thanks
Larry Hadrava
CCIE #12203 CCNP
Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc.
URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
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