[cisco-voip] SCCP or SIP on Unity 5.0

Pat Hayes pat-cv at wcyv.com
Wed Jun 3 10:28:54 EDT 2009


(Dropping ask-icd-ivr-support at external.cisco.com as it doesn't seem relevant)

Right, they still appear as ports in Unity and can be monitored via
port status monitor, call viewer, etc. First call over the trunk shows
up on port 1, the second on port 2, etc.

I can appreciate what Ryan's saying re: keeping up with sccp port
counts on the CUCM side, but the Unity SIP integration is a bit less
mature than the SCCP. Unity has had a SCCP integration since...ever?
The SIP integration is the new kid on the block, and hasn't been
adopted widely. It also has the limitations of:

1. No Unity failover/secondary server
2. No MOH on supervised transfers

I'd lean toward skinny, especially if you are under the 144 ports (I
think that is the current max for the port wizard in CUCM). Even if
you are over 144, you can create a second set (CiscoUM2-VI, etc) and
add them to the same line group.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
> I'll defer to Pat or somebody with more (recent) Unity experience but Unity
> still sees all the ports as individual.  It's only the CUCM side where you
> lose the tracking of individual ports.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jun 3, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
> How about port status monitor? Does that see things as separate ports?
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com>
> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> Cc: "Jim Reed" <jreed at swiftnews.com>, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net,
> ask-icd-ivr-support at external.cisco.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:25:34 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SCCP or SIP on Unity 5.0
>
> The big difference as I understand it is around the number of ports
> you have.  Unity is outpacing what the CUCM vm port wizard can handle
> so the SIP integration makes it easier to manage on the CUCM side.  A
> potential downside is you have to be careful to monitor vm port
> utilization as CUCM only sees the SIP trunk as one device.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jun 2, 2009, at 11:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
> If your Unity and CallManager versions meet the SIP trunk
> requirements, I hear it's the way to go. Otherwise, you're stuck with
> SCCP.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/unity/compatibility/
> matrix/cusiptrunkmtx.html
>
> I'm not sure if you loose (or gain) any functionality with SIP vs SCCP.
>
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Reed" <jreed at swiftnews.com>
> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net, ask-icd-ivr-support at external.cisco.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:52:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [cisco-voip] SCCP or SIP on Unity 5.0
>
> This is probably a silly question for most of you but we are trying
> to do a
> reinstall of a Unity v5.x server and one of the questions it is
> asking is if
> we want SCCP or SIP.  I believe SCCP is the default but just want to
> verify
> that my thinking is correct.
>
> Thank You...
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