[cisco-voip] Cisco CCM 4.2

[Tim Frazee]

David's quote was for going from a 4.1 pub with Unity to BE. Can't use DMA
with BE.

Sounds about right for how much work it can be.



On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> um, not sure I agree on the "manually re-entering lots of information" -
> that's what DMA export is all about.
>
> but I hear you on the other costs. if you bought Cisco hardware, those were
> EOL'd a lot quicker than HP hardware (which Cisco doesn't EOL, the just stop
> supporting on new versions)
>
> the cost of upgrading is just going to get higher and higher, especially if
> you want to upgrade to N+2 versions or higher.
>
> Cisco is really pushing UCSS and CUWL so you never have to worry about
> things like this. Building a yearly cost associated with your phone system
> basically and being able to upgrade to whatever version you want.
>
> while i understand all the arguments pertaining to cost to support, Cisco
> has to understand that very few people run to install vX.0 of anything
> unless absolutely necessary, so by the time a vX.1 version is out, it's EOL
> is not far off.  a phone system is not like a pc where upgrading is not that
> big of an issue. I can see the big difference between v4 and v5 but the idea
> to never have a vX.2 out is a bit of a drag. they're releasing major
> versions a lot faster and expecting people to climb on board.
>
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Zhars" <dzhars at gmail.com>
> To: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com>, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:56:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CCM 4.2
>
> A small installation, maybe 75 phones.  To go to 7 was almost $35,000.  Of
> course, some of this included the VAR's work (from previous posts it does
> sound like you have to spend a lot of time manually re-entering lots of
> information).  This was also to go from Full CCM and Unity to the Business
> Edition.  So yes, I was horrified!  Maybe I need to look for a different
> VAR, though he has always seemed to steer me right.
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> What were you horrified by?
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:48 PM, David Zhars <dzhars at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > My VAR related this to me the other day (we are 4.1x shop):
>> >
>> >  I can tell you that there are MANY MANY 4.x installations still out
>> there.
>> > Some have said they will go it alone beyond 2011 without support.
>> Others,
>> > after having been quoted rates for upgrading to 7, have sworn they will
>> look
>> > at competitor offerings.  Cisco has a real chance here to make a lot of
>> > people very happy by making a transition to 7.x
>> >
>> > I am one of those that was horrified to see what going to 7 would
>> entail.  I
>> > am not sure where to go from here, we are very happy with 4.1(3)
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Denis Pointer <denis.mailer at gmail.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Last Date of Support:
>> >> App. SW
>> >>
>> >> The last date to receive service and support for the product. After
>> this
>> >> date, all support services for the product are unavailable, and the
>> product
>> >> becomes obsolete.
>> >>
>> >> May 15, 2011
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/prod_end-of-life_notice0900aecd806ec7a2.html
>> >> --
>> >> Denis Pointer, A. Sc. T.
>> >> Customer Systems Analyst (Senior Design)
>> >>
>> >> CCVP, CCNA, CCDA
>> >> Cisco Unified Contact Center Specialist
>> >> Cisco IP Telephony Design Specialist
>> >> Cisco Unity Design Specialist
>> >> Cisco Unity Support Specialist
>> >> Cisco IP Communications Express Specialist
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Bob Gibbons, Jr.
>> >> <bgibbons at pendercountync.gov> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone know what the End of Life/End of Service is for Cisco Call
>> >>> Manager 4.2(3)sr4?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Bob Gibbons, Jr.
>> >>>
>> >>> Network Administrator
>> >>>
>> >>> Pender County Government
>> >>>
>> >>> 910-259-1406
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
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>> >>>
>> >>>
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