[cisco-voip] New ISR Routers

[Matthew Loraditch]

All the info is now out publically: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/routers/networking_solutions_products_genericcontent0900aecd806cab99.html#~all-prod

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:31 AM
To: Voice Noob; 'Sean Walberg'; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New ISR Routers

Appletalk is discontinued in IOS15 which is the minimum for the new routers and the new licensing only applies for the new routers so you actually won't have a choice in the matter, but your situation is what TAC is for, I think they might also have an automated way to do what you want.


Matthew Loraditch
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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voice Noob
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:17 AM
To: 'Sean Walberg'; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New ISR Routers

If you pay a 100% premium and the only justification you have is that you don't have to deal with a license key you may be looking at the wrong products. You may be a better fit for low end gear.

From: Sean Walberg [mailto:swalberg at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:48 AM
To: Voice Noob
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New ISR Routers

I pay a lot more for Cisco stuff because they're not like everyone else. If I wanted something like another vendor, I'd buy from another vendor that's a lot cheaper.

This is just one more thing that can go wrong. Router blows up in the middle of the night and you want to replace it with a spare until the RMA comes through on the new one?  Not anymore (assuming you need some features that aren't in ip base - we still use appletalk here)

As a network guy I've been able to justify paying a 100% premium for Cisco gear over the likes of HP and Dell because it's always been frictionless to deal with Cisco. Over the past several years it's been harder and harder. You used to be able to call TAC without a serial number and they'd help you out. Lots of little things that one can look at and say that "that change is perfectly reasonable", but when you look at it as a whole you wonder why you're paying so much for something that's just like everyone else.

Sean


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com<mailto:voicenoob at gmail.com>> wrote:

I stopped myself from hijacking the other thread going around but I wanted to respond and get others input. What is the problem with getting the keys from Cisco? This is not a new concept with other vendors.




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